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Hammock Parties 06-18-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 16985949)
I don't hate everything. I acknowledge bad movies as bad, even if I like personally them and consider them to be guilty pleasure movies. You lose your mind fawning over just about every movie that you even have the slightest hope won't suck.

Huge difference.

False narrative. I hated Rise of Skywalker.

You are just another CPer who thinks most everything sucks.

I'd love to see you posting about a movie you actually think is good.

Bowser 06-18-2023 01:57 PM

I went into this thinking it'd be so-so at best, and also to see how bad they were going to screw up the Flashpoint story (one of DC's best), but I loved it. Easily one of the best movies DC has ever put out. Not only did they NOT screw up the story, they did a great job incorporating it into the DCU for James Gunn's DCU reset.

Spoiler!

Bowser 06-18-2023 02:08 PM

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Just Passin' By 06-18-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16985955)
False narrative. I hated Rise of Skywalker.

You are just another CPer who thinks most everything sucks.

I'd love to see you posting about a movie you actually think is good.


Not a false narrative, at all:


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You lose your mind fawning over just about every movie that you even have the slightest hope won't suck.

And I have posted movies that I think are good.

BigCatDaddy 06-18-2023 04:54 PM

Had high expectations going in and was pretty let down. Seeing Keaton and Reeve was cool but other than that pretty meh. No where near GOTG.

Bowser 06-18-2023 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16986119)
Had high expectations going in and was pretty let down. Seeing Keaton and Reeve was cool but other than that pretty meh. No where near GOTG.

I was the opposite.....I expected nothing and was pleasantly surprised. Agreed on it not being GotG, but it was entertaining.

Gravedigger 06-19-2023 09:06 AM

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Mecca 06-19-2023 09:17 AM

The whole... "well they couldn't just trash it for tax purposes they need to try and make some money off of it" ... really blew up in their face huh?

They've been trying to do a Flash movie since the 80's... and this is what they put out...

a movie that was plagued with backstage drama and a lead actor who committed multiple bizare headline making crimes... rushed cameos cause they had no faith in the actual story... really dodgy cgi for a movie that was going to live or die on that... being based on Flashpoint itself which is not a particularly fondly remembered story... AND is completely unearned.... AND makes itself redundant by the end...

I also don't understand DC's obsession with the flashpoint story. The first movie about this character should not be ****ing flashpoint..flashpoint is dark and dire with no hope which means for that to impact at all you need the world to be bright and happy beforehand. Having flashpoint literally follow the Snyder movies does nothing because dark and dire is his entire universe.

It was an utterly stupid plan from day 1.

Hammock Parties 06-19-2023 09:47 AM

Here's Mecca to tell us something sucks again! Even when we had an absolutely great time watching it! LMAO

Mecca 06-19-2023 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16986667)
Here's Mecca to tell us something sucks again! Even when we had an absolutely great time watching it! LMAO

You really should have a bit of dignity when judging a film...DC in general has no idea what the **** they are doing on the movie side.

Hammock Parties 06-19-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16986671)
You really should have a bit of dignity when judging a film...DC in general has no idea what the **** they are doing on the movie side.

I laughed, I cried, I fudged my undies.

Great friggin' flick!

You should lighten up and stop being such a depressing chode about entertainment.

Rams Fan 06-19-2023 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16986626)
The whole... "well they couldn't just trash it for tax purposes they need to try and make some money off of it" ... really blew up in their face huh?

They've been trying to do a Flash movie since the 80's... and this is what they put out...

a movie that was plagued with backstage drama and a lead actor who committed multiple bizare headline making crimes... rushed cameos cause they had no faith in the actual story... really dodgy cgi for a movie that was going to live or die on that... being based on Flashpoint itself which is not a particularly fondly remembered story... AND is completely unearned.... AND makes itself redundant by the end...

I also don't understand DC's obsession with the flashpoint story. The first movie about this character should not be ****ing flashpoint..flashpoint is dark and dire with no hope which means for that to impact at all you need the world to be bright and happy beforehand. Having flashpoint literally follow the Snyder movies does nothing because dark and dire is his entire universe.

It was an utterly stupid plan from day 1.


There's so much I disagree with here.

1. The movie has been ****ed for the past year + because of all the shit that Miller's done and they were in a lose-lose situation. Either move forward with Miller but not spend a shit ton in publicizing while risking not being break-even, re-cast Flash altogether, or not release the movie at all. I think WB did the best they could given the situation.

2. The movie was basically DOA when Gunn took over. The initial ending is not what was shown in theaters:

Spoiler!
That basically leaves a Frankenstein monster where Muschietti has to end the DCEU while also leaving some room for Aquaman 2 (which I don't understand because chronologically Aquaman 2 should be before Flashpoint in terms continuity + interest, but whatever).

3. WTF do you mean it's not a fondly remembered story? The criticism with Flashpoint has more to do with what DC wrote after it-The New 52-not the story itself.

4. I completely disagree here. What should a Flash movie be given the context?
Batfleck was already announced as not being a thing before shooting, Cavill was announced as not being Superman in the future, and Jenkins not proposed WW3 being canceled because of WW84. Quite literally, they had no choice but to do Flashpoint.

I understand DC gets a lot of criticism (much of it deserved), but this movie doesn't deserve it. Yes, the CGI is shoddy at spots, but I think the plot + story was good and attempted to be faithful to the original lore and source material while providing fan service, unlike say, Rise of Skywalker.

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16986622)
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Rams Fan 06-19-2023 10:21 AM

Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize Flash is getting ****ed over by how shit Batman vs Superman is.

Literally half of DC's problems wouldn't be a thing if that movie didn't exist.

Mecca 06-19-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16986717)
Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize Flash is getting ****ed over by how shit Batman vs Superman is.

Literally half of DC's problems wouldn't be a thing if that movie didn't exist.

Just hear me out here..maybe just maybe they shouldn't have hired Zack Snyder?

Rams Fan 06-19-2023 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16986748)
Just hear me out here..maybe just maybe they shouldn't have hired Zack Snyder?

Man of Steel was fine.

I don’t necessarily agree with all the decisions made, even the director’s cut of Batman vs Superman was still bad, but his version of Justice League was good.

WB should never have green lit Batman Vs Superman in the first place to launch the Justice League. And should have never felt like they were in a race with Marvel to do so. If they actually took time to do a Man of Steel sequel and a solo Batfleck movie, I think how we view the Snyderverse is a lot different.


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