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duncan_idaho 02-24-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17977715)
I’m seeing 33 7/8 at his Pro Day. This isn’t bad at all.

Yeah, if Jackson's arm length is 33 3/4, there's really no reason to be concerned about that, and it makes the ease with which he handles speed to power and long arms a little more normal or sensible.

It's going to come down to how the Chiefs think he fits, and how much money he commands.

But to me, he's far and away the only "big money" option in FA in which I have any interest. Far superior to Stanley - who is too big an injury risk for a large financial commitment, to me - or Robinson - who just isn't as good as the money he is going to command.

smithandrew051 02-24-2025 10:04 AM

His arm length is all over the place online.

Anywhere from 32 1/2 to 33 7/8.

I’m typically a trust Reid/Veach guy, but they may just want to reconsider their obsession with arm length given the state of LT since Fisher. Just get a good player.

And no, it hasn’t stopped the Chiefs from winning 2 Super Bowls and going to the last 3. So this isn’t a complaint. Just an observation that arm length shouldn’t be the determining factor with this specific FA at a position of need.

Chris Meck 02-24-2025 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17977849)
His arm length is all over the place online.

Anywhere from 32 1/2 to 33 7/8.

I’m typically a trust Reid/Veach guy, but they may just want to reconsider their obsession with arm length given the state of LT since Fisher. Just get a good player.

And no, it hasn’t stopped the Chiefs from winning 2 Super Bowls and going to the last 3. So this isn’t a complaint. Just an observation that arm length shouldn’t be the determining factor with this specific FA at a position of need.

I tend to agree with you. We'll see what they do.

smithandrew051 02-24-2025 10:06 AM

Wanya Morris has 35” arms.

Bernhard Raimann has 32 7/8” arms.

Just get a good player.

kcgreene 02-24-2025 10:23 AM

Personally, the more I look at the market, I'm leaning on Wills, if our training staff feels we can keep him healthy. He's good when he's been healthy, but that's what it all breaks down to.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in taking a flyer to lock up Jaylon Moore for a few years relatively cheap.

Personally, I just think that the 4 that appeal to me the most (Armstead [if he is cut for cap purposes], Robinson, Stanley, and Jackson) are going to be absurdly priced.

rfaulk34 02-24-2025 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17976323)
You guys are gonna flip when he’s got a better market than that. People only want Jackson because he’s a perceived discount. If he’s starter good it won’t be on a discount. Not to mention he has extremely short arms. Shorter than thuneys.

Yep. When the bidding starts, that 16 will go up. Taylor was 12-14 when he was a free agent and you guys signed him for 20.

GordonGekko 02-24-2025 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17977892)
Yep. When the bidding starts, that 16 will go up. Taylor was 12-14 when he was a free agent and you guys signed him for 20.

Veach will get the money if they think he is the answer

T-post Tom 02-24-2025 10:56 AM

I have 34 inch arms & will play for the vet min. My talent level is way below most high schoolers, but I’m a great locker room guy.

RunKC 02-24-2025 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17977853)
Wanya Morris has 35” arms.

Bernhard Raimann has 32 7/8” arms.

Just get a good player.

Kingsley was an ideal LT on paper but didn’t know how to use his hands or leverage. 31 bench reps is incredible for a lineman and he got walked into Mahomes by Trey Hendrickson bc of his poor technique/leverage.

Conversely Mitch Schwartz had G arm length at only 33 1/2 and he was amazing bc he did what Kingsley could not do: utilize his hands and maintain excellent technique.

That’s why I think Alaric Jackson is interesting

St. Patty's Fire 02-24-2025 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17977924)
I have 34 inch arms & will play for the vet min. My talent level is way below most high schoolers, but I’m a great locker room guy.

basically gehrig deiter

kcgreene 02-25-2025 12:18 PM

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/...e/80249143007/

The Dolphins are operating as if Terron Armstead will not be returning due to retirement.
"As a result, I think we have to operate as though he won't play." per McDaniel. So potentially could see them cutting him before the league year if he hasn't made a decision yet to save money before free agency and the draft.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17976323)
You guys are gonna flip when he’s got a better market than that. People only want Jackson because he’s a perceived discount. If he’s starter good it won’t be on a discount. Not to mention he has extremely short arms. Shorter than thuneys.

Not really.

If the Chiefs are after him, they're convinced that what he did in LA is repeatable here.

And if he can do here what he did there, I'd be just fine giving him $18-20 million for 4 or 5 years to be done with the problem for a half-decade.

Overpaying for Jackson makes more sense than paying market for Smith by a damn sight.

kcgreene 03-03-2025 09:09 AM

Updated Alaric Jackson status and Updated Arm and Hand Measurements of Draft Prospects in Original Post.

In58men 03-03-2025 09:53 AM

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smithandrew051 03-03-2025 12:20 PM

With Jackson off the table, I’ve moved on to Jaylon Moore


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