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lewdog 05-27-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9713155)
what about mixture - just simply ice water or skim milk - which is best - I apologize for the questions - but i'm coming in, rusty, as is my knowledge - LOL

I usually go milk post workout as some carbs are good and it tastes a hell of a lot better. I always mix with milk unless I am watching carbs in which I go water.

Simply Red 05-27-2013 07:57 PM

anybody still doing the random push ups thing? like 20 every half hour - or whatever?

lewdog 05-27-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9713227)
anybody still doing the random push ups thing? like 20 every half hour - or whatever?

Dude, even Herschel Walker gave that up in the late 80's.

ThaVirus 05-27-2013 08:03 PM

No, but I can do 70 push ups right now without stopping so that's kinda boss..

On a side note, I haven't been to the gym in about 5 days due to school and the holiday. I feel like a lazy piece of shit but whatevs. YOLO.

GordonGekko 05-27-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9713089)
Is there a recommended low sugar or no sugar protein powder? Thanks for any assistance!

Answer: Grilled Chicken

Seriously though all those powders have sugar in them from what I've seen.

GordonGekko 05-27-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9713072)
this go around, my plan is reverse of what it was, yesteryear.

I'm going to limit myself to 5 miles of running per week, yet the fitness side of things will be slow and smooth, yet increased and very consistent.

I do about 5 miles a week of walking, running hills, and I am actually beginning to get ripped again. Just make sure when you do the cardio you attack and get your heart rate up big time, that is what matters most I think.

lewdog 05-27-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9713357)
Answer: Grilled Chicken

Seriously though all those powders have sugar in them from what I've seen.

Nope, most have 1-2 grams per 20-30g protein. Negligible amount.

Silock 05-27-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9713155)
what about mixture - just simply ice water or skim milk - which is best - I apologize for the questions - but i'm coming in, rusty, as is my knowledge - LOL

I go with water. Myofusion, Trutein and Optimum Nutrition don't need milk to taste good. Most of their flavors are pretty boss as is.

Silock 05-27-2013 11:06 PM

Hard work pays off:

http://i.imgur.com/YwLkODN.jpg

Aspengc8 05-28-2013 12:26 PM

Well its been 2 weeks of switching over to paleo style eating and I'm liking the results so far. Only down from 225 to 221 however and look a lot dryer and I'm smashing my 5/3/1 weights. Hill sprint stamina seems about the same, I will try the prowler tonight. Also started growing a beard which my wife hates, and I picked up a 23yo blonde hottie as a lifting partner. No idea how it happened but she wants to get strong lol! Those ****ing short tights with the knee high crossfit socks are distracting. I will get some 'form' videos up for you guys tomorrow night on squat night.

Saul Good 05-28-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 9714247)
Well its been 2 weeks of switching over to paleo style eating and I'm liking the results so far. Only down from 225 to 221 however and look a lot dryer and I'm smashing my 5/3/1 weights. Hill sprint stamina seems about the same, I will try the prowler tonight. Also started growing a beard which my wife hates, and I picked up a 23yo blonde hottie as a lifting partner. No idea how it happened but she wants to get strong lol! Those ****ing short tights with the knee high crossfit socks are distracting. I will get some 'form' videos up for you guys tomorrow night on squat night.

Make sure she achieves proper depth...you know...to maximize results.

Simply Red 05-29-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9713523)
Hard work pays off:

http://i.imgur.com/YwLkODN.jpg

Excellent - Great to hear!

Simply Red 05-29-2013 07:19 PM

I'd like to report what i ate today & how I behaved - still no fitness - i'll work that way.

However, today - one Kirkland (Sams) Ensure - French Vanilla.

Waters all day - I did use sugar in my coffee this AM.

Tonight - baby asparagus, ground chicken from the farmers markt - which is grain fed, serious quality - I'll quote the farm, upon request. Some hot sauce added.

Not a culinary treat - but fuel for my diet.

How is that?

My goals are to lose appx. 11ish lbs. + define and tone up. I'm going to start w/ weights on Saturday.

This is how I succeed and what works for me - little 'baby-step' goals.

Please Advise on anything... Ty in advance!

Saul Good 05-29-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9717553)
I'd like to report what i ate today & how I behaved - still no fitness - i'll work that way.

However, today - one Kirkland (Sams) Ensure - French Vanilla.

Waters all day - I did use sugar in my coffee this AM.

Tonight - baby asparagus, ground chicken from the farmers markt - which is grain fed, serious quality - I'll quote the farm, upon request. Some hot sauce added.

Not a culinary treat - but fuel for my diet.

How is that?

My goals are to lose appx. 11ish lbs. + define and tone up. I'm going to start w/ weights on Saturday.

This is how I succeed and what works for me - little 'baby-step' goals.

Please Advise on anything... Ty in advance!

Just remember that how much you eat is more important that what you eat.

lewdog 05-29-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9717553)
I'd like to report what i ate today & how I behaved - still no fitness - i'll work that way.

However, today - one Kirkland (Sams) Ensure - French Vanilla.

Waters all day - I did use sugar in my coffee this AM.

Tonight - baby asparagus, ground chicken from the farmers markt - which is grain fed, serious quality - I'll quote the farm, upon request. Some hot sauce added.

Not a culinary treat - but fuel for my diet.

How is that?

My goals are to lose appx. 11ish lbs. + define and tone up. I'm going to start w/ weights on Saturday.

This is how I succeed and what works for me - little 'baby-step' goals.

Please Advise on anything... Ty in advance!

Only ate twice and maybe 50 grams protein total?

Simply Red 05-29-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9717604)
Just remember that how much you eat is more important that what you eat.

so 5 mediocre sized meals is ideal?

Simply Red 05-29-2013 07:30 PM

also, i'm thinking I want to drop - actually you're helping me answer my own questions. Ty

Simply Red 05-29-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9717617)
Only ate twice and maybe 50 grams protein total?

ok. yeah. I understand - i guess i'm too focused on losing - rather than converting it over.

lewdog 05-29-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9717631)
ok. yeah. I understand - i guess i'm too focused on losing - rather than converting it over.

WTF are you talking about? I asked if you only ate those two meals for the entire day, which consisted of a ensure shake and the dinner you mentioned? Or did you eat more?

Simply Red 05-29-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9717633)
WTF are you talking about? I asked if you only ate those two meals for the entire day, which consisted of a ensure shake and the dinner you mentioned? Or did you eat more?

that was it. yes.

lewdog 05-29-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9717641)
that was it. yes.

You will definitely want to keep your protein levels up and drop the carbs in meals but not eliminate them completely. Easy protein sources are chicken, eggs, tuna, lean ground turkey/beef.

What is your bodyweight? Would you be willing to count calories?

Hammock Parties 05-29-2013 07:43 PM

What lifts are you going to do, Simply Skinny?

KCrockaholic 05-29-2013 07:45 PM

I started getting back into working out in the beginning of March basically. Have gone from 180 down to 163 right now, and have done it with minimal cardio. Lifting 5 days a week, and the 6th day is a 20-30 minute run. Day 7 is the off day. I'm getting closer to my football playing days shape.

Actually I've become obsessed with it now. Healthier eating, and lifting have become a lifestyle change.

Silock 05-29-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9717622)
so 5 mediocre sized meals is ideal?

Not at all.

In any case, I'll echo what's already been said. You need to WAY up that protein intake, and don't cut your calories TOO low. If they're too low for too long, you'll end up crashing out of the diet and just gorging yourself on the cookie aisle at the grocery store.

You need to count your calories using a website like myfitnesspal.com.

Simply Red 05-29-2013 09:04 PM

Thanks you guys. Appreciated.

Simply Red 05-29-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9717668)
What lifts are you going to do, Simply Skinny?

I'm not sure yet - I just need to start the habit - the obsession will come later on. That's how it has always worked w/ me.

Hammock Parties 05-29-2013 09:13 PM

Just do bench, deadlift, squat.

And find a pullup bar. Pullups rock.

LiL stumppy 05-29-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9717553)
I'd like to report what i ate today & how I behaved - still no fitness - i'll work that way.

However, today - one Kirkland (Sams) Ensure - French Vanilla.

Waters all day - I did use sugar in my coffee this AM.

Tonight - baby asparagus, ground chicken from the farmers markt - which is grain fed, serious quality - I'll quote the farm, upon request. Some hot sauce added.

Not a culinary treat - but fuel for my diet.

How is that?

My goals are to lose appx. 11ish lbs. + define and tone up. I'm going to start w/ weights on Saturday.

This is how I succeed and what works for me - little 'baby-step' goals.

Please Advise on anything... Ty in advance!

You must get your protein up or you will simply lose too much muscle mass, if you are at a calorie deficient, you will indeed lose weight, however, your physic will look the same, just a smaller version of it; aka skinny fat.

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9717617)
Only ate twice and maybe 50 grams protein total?

There are many sources out there that quote different protein intake levels to cut, from what I have experienced, if you are cutting, your protein intake needs to be AT LEAST 125 g per day. Carbs are a main focus as well, keep the simple carbs down, and low complex carbs, this will help burn body fat.

Ideally, if done correctly, you only want to lose 1-2 lb a week, no more.

Simply Red 05-29-2013 09:22 PM

would u all recommend cheeba?

Simply Red 05-29-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9718150)

And find a pullup bar. Pullups rock.

yes - they're a total bitch in the beginning though - well actually they're a bitch even if you ARE in shape.

Hammock Parties 05-29-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718191)
yes - they're a total bitch in the beginning though - well actually they're a bitch even if you ARE in shape.

Yep. Great way to build chest back and biceps though.

LiL stumppy 05-29-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9718203)
Yep. Great way to build chest back and biceps though.

Pull ups are actually a very good upper core workout as well.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 12:03 AM

I'm upset - i had a slice of bacon surrounded by swiss cheese. I've had hardly any sugar today - vs the normal day , so I suppose that's good.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy (Post 9718211)
Pull ups are actually a very good upper core workout as well.

they hurt like rape though.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718383)
they hurt like rape though.

That means they're working.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718381)
I'm upset - i had a slice of bacon surrounded by swiss cheese.

Awesome low-carb snack.

Silock 05-30-2013 12:31 AM

Not if you do them enough.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9718397)
Not if you do them enough.

good to know - we have a big rolling, 'industrial' warehouse ladder at my office, it has a perfect pull up bar. Palms toward the sky on these - or over-handed?

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:29 AM

Low Carb or Simply Calorie count? I don't have a clear, concise, plan. Would the two combined be okay?

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:33 AM

also this is for you, Silock - for any of your help!
 
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Saul Good 05-30-2013 07:39 AM

I need to try some pull-ups. Haven't done them in years, and I need to build my chest. Sitting behind a desk all day gives a man bitch tits. I thought the push ups would help, but I need to do something more.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:42 AM

so how many are ideal - like 600 per session?!?!?

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:44 AM

Pull-Ups will entirely rape you of your manhood. I have to be honest, I can't stand them. But they're one of the best exercises, no question.

Saul Good 05-30-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718552)
so how many are ideal - like 600 per session?!?!?

Pull-ups? Shit, I can barely do 200 without stopping to catch my breath.

KCUnited 05-30-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718552)
so how many are ideal - like 600 per session?!?!?

Weighted or just regular?

Aspengc8 05-30-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718539)
Low Carb or Simply Calorie count? I don't have a clear, concise, plan. Would the two combined be okay?

Come up with a plan. Pick a known strength training routine like Starting Strength, West side for skinny bastards, or Wendler 5/3/1. Stick to it consistently for 6 months and focus on good, quality food. Include some cardio once or twice a week, ie go sprint somewhere. No hamster elliptical bullshit. Find a hill and run up it 10x.

people would be suprised at the physique changes from focusing on training heavy, sprinting, quality whole foods. I wouldn't even count a calorie and just follow that for 6 months.

Silock 05-30-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9718550)
I need to try some pull-ups. Haven't done them in years, and I need to build my chest. Sitting behind a desk all day gives a man bitch tits. I thought the push ups would help, but I need to do something more.

Diet. Pull-ups aren't going to help with that. Pull-ups aren't a chest exercise, anyway.

Silock 05-30-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718539)
Low Carb or Simply Calorie count? I don't have a clear, concise, plan. Would the two combined be okay?

Calorie count. Get on a solid routine for a while, and use the time that you are doing the low weight stuff to really focus on your diet and losing fat. Then, you can slowly increase the calories as needed.

Silock 05-30-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9718532)
good to know - we have a big rolling, 'industrial' warehouse ladder at my office, it has a perfect pull up bar. Palms toward the sky on these - or over-handed?

Doesn't matter. Whatever you're more comfortable with. I prefer neutral grip, but that's just me.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 11:31 AM

thus far, today - I had one Ensure, A large Coffee - w/ a little sugar.

I had an 8" unwhich from Jimmy Johns w/ ONLY turkey - tomato wrapped in enormous lettuce leafs. Not great - but did the trick - I just ordered 50x Met Rx Bars - i realize there are better protein choices, out there. but I wanted to get something enroute fairly quickly.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 11:32 AM

I'm going to do filet and roasted brocolli tonight. I have really done well w/ my sugar control - so I'm proud of that!

Simply Red 05-30-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9718657)
Calorie count. Get on a solid routine for a while, and use the time that you are doing the low weight stuff to really focus on your diet and losing fat. Then, you can slowly increase the calories as needed.

yes - I should be on track in no time - I only really need to lose that 8 -> 11 Lbs. Actually I'm still a 34 waist, so i'm not enormous, or anything.

el borracho 05-30-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9718203)
Yep. Great way to build chest back and biceps though.

What? How would you ever build your chest doing pull-ups?

el borracho 05-30-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9718550)
I need to try some pull-ups. Haven't done them in years, and I need to build my chest. Sitting behind a desk all day gives a man bitch tits. I thought the push ups would help, but I need to do something more.

Won't happen. Pull-ups work your back and your biceps. If you want to build your chest you need to bench. You will never build your chest doing pull-ups.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 9719691)
What? How would you ever build your chest doing pull-ups?

The close grip Pull-Up (index fingers and thumb touching as they circle the bar facing away from body) is very pectoral intensive.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 9718629)
Wendler 5/3/1.

:rockon:

Simply Red 05-30-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719712)
:rockon:

IDGI

Silock 05-30-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719710)
The close grip Pull-Up (index fingers and thumb touching as they circle the bar facing away from body) is very pectoral intensive.

Only as a stabilizer. It's by no means "pec intensive." It, along with all other pull ups, primarily target the lats.

Pull ups aren't going to build your chest. Sorry.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 06:45 PM

I'm so excited - tomorrow would normally be my cheat day - however I'm going to do the filet tomorrow - i had that weird mystery asparagus dish tonight, what a disaster that is - but - for now - i'm not eating for pleasure. What's sad about it all is; I can cook.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9719875)
Only as a stabilizer. It's by no means "pec intensive." It, along with all other pull ups, primarily target the lats.

Pull ups aren't going to build your chest. Sorry.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simply Red 05-30-2013 06:46 PM

So shut your gosh damned mouth Claythan.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 06:48 PM

I dunno. Every time I do pullups I get a huge pump in my chest.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 06:48 PM

I have to level with you all.


I really don't think I will do well with the pull ups - I anticipate 'embarrassingly' bad!

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9719925)
I have to level with you all.


I really don't think I will do well with the pull ups - I anticipate 'embarrassingly' bad!

Just fight through it pussy.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719926)
Just fight through it pussy.

you can motivate me only one way - and I think we both know which way that is.

lewdog 05-30-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9719925)
I have to level with you all.


I really don't think I will do well with the pull ups - I anticipate 'embarrassingly' bad!

If you have access to an assisted pullup station that could be a good place to start or if your gym has bands that you can attach to a cage to help as well until your lats get stronger.

No way that a pullup works your chest. Sorry bro, hit that bench press.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 06:53 PM

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YOA A VEAKLING! PUSSY! GUUUUHLLY MAAAAAHN! DO SOME PULLUPS OR I SMASH YOA PRETTY FACE AND RUIN YOA ABILITY TO PULL NINAHS COMPLETELY!!!!

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Simply Red 05-30-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719935)
RYOWHN!! YOA AH A VEAKLING! YOU SPINELESS POOSHAY! YOU SO VEAK AND PATHETIC! WHAT KIND OF YOUNG MILF AH YOA GOING TO AHHTRACK WITH YOA TWINKY FASEEK?

YOA A VEAKLING! PUSSY! GUUUUHLLY MAAAAAHN! DO SOME PULLUPS OR I SMASH YOA PRETTY FACE AND RUIN YOA ABILITY TO PULL NINAHS COMPLETELY!!!!

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You are correct sir! :LOL::dom:

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9719931)
If you have access to an assisted pullup station that could be a good place to start or if your gym has bands that you can attach to a cage to help as well until your lats get stronger.

No way that a pullup works your chest. Sorry bro, hit that bench press.

that's like training wheels - that'd pussy me out for sure - I got it - I'm just stepping the **** up

Remember Saturday is my start date, now - to return to lifting after such a lengthy break - do I take Sunday off or no? I think I know the answer here - but....

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:02 PM

Pull ups are more difficult than Push Ups, correct? It's been so long that I literally don't remember - seems they're tougher.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9719931)
If you have access to an assisted pullup station that could be a good place to start or if your gym has bands that you can attach to a cage to help as well until your lats get stronger.

No way that a pullup works your chest. Sorry bro, hit that bench press.


another idea is to do 30 pull ups an hour at work, to accent my beautiful body to be...

lewdog 05-30-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9719951)
another idea is to do 30 pull ups an hour at work, to accent my beautiful body to be...

Check 5/3/1 program. Nothing wrong with the basics to get strong and do free weight lifts for pretty much all your lifting work.

Silock 05-30-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719923)
I dunno. Every time I do pullups I get a huge pump in my chest.

Make sure you're engaging your lats. It also may be a sign that your chest is significantly weaker than your back.

Silock 05-30-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9719925)
I have to level with you all.


I really don't think I will do well with the pull ups - I anticipate 'embarrassingly' bad!

http://www.kbnj.com/FighterPullupByPavel.htm

This works wonders.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9720016)

Thank you very much.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 10:09 PM

i'm going to my favorite reverse leg lifts for lower abs.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 10:14 PM

silock - question from the link -

what exactly does this mean? ->> If you run into a snag with this routine, back off a week and build up again. If you hit thewall again switch to another routine

Simply Red 05-30-2013 10:15 PM

does that mean **** it, give up on this exercise and assume it's just not for you - or does it mean strengthen up some other way and then go back to the pull ups...?

Silock 05-30-2013 10:51 PM

It means that if you run into a wall twice, you're probably ready for a more advanced routine with longer cycles.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9720936)
It means that if you run into a wall twice, you're probably ready for a more advanced routine with longer cycles.

ok - then what does running into the wall mean, in this instance - i really don't understand - not being a wise guy.


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