There are lots of people who worked with Jobs that have sour grapes.

But frankly, this modern generation, will care a lot less about what he did for PCs vs. how he revolutionized the new digital world. No, he did not invent modern mobile or mp3 technology, but he was easily the one who revolutionized both industries.

Sorry, I think he's a show boater... He made some fun toys, but they are toys.

He ****ed babies.

If it would net a buck-22, I'm sure he would... The coffee shop king...

I bet you slept in class everyday LMAO

Dennis Ritchie > Steve Jobs

http://my.umbc.edu/news/9470

Ending corporate philanthropy programs can be done for justifiable reasons, if the shareholders feel their money is being shammed or unreasonably given away. Corporations have problems with funding friendly/related "charities," then getting the tax deduction. The CEO doesn't have to pay a dime. The shareholders do.

So, I don't know why the programs were ended, but it's very likely not because Jobs was or was not a mean guy who disliked charity.

http://gawker.com/5849543/harvard-ca...ative-medicine

Harvard Cancer Expert: Steve Jobs Probably Doomed Himself With Alternative Medicine

Jobs had a mild form of cancer that is not usually fatal, but seems to have ushered along his own death by delaying conventional treatment in favor of alternative remedies, a Harvard Medical School researcher and faculty member says. Jobs's intractability, so often his greatest asset, may have been his undoing.

"Let me cut to the chase: Mr. Jobs allegedly chose to undergo all sorts of alternative treatment options before opting for conventional medicine," Ramzi Amri wrote in an extraordinarily detailed post to Quora, an online Q&A forum popular among Silicon Valley executives. "Given the circumstances, it seems sound to assume that Mr. Jobs' choice for alternative medicine has eventually led to an unnecessarily early death."...............

............According to a 2008 Fortune article, Jobs for nine months pursued "alternative methods to treat his pancreatic cancer, hoping to avoid [an] operation through a special diet." The Buddhist vegetarian took this approach from the time he was diagnosed in October 2003 until at least the end of July 2004, when he underwent surgery at Stanford University Medical Center.

By then the cancer was so far along Jobs had to lose his pancreas and duodenum in a "Whipple procedure." The cancer also spread to all the major parts of his liver. "The only reason he'd have a transplant," wrote Amri, "would be that the tumor invaded all major parts of the liver, which takes a considerable amount of time." Amri said the Whipple procedure and liver transplant were clear signs the cancer was out of control and should have been stopped earlier.

The condition might have been nipped in the bud if Jobs had acted right away. Jobs's cancer manifest in neuroendocrine tumors, which are typically far less lethal than the "pancreatic adenocarcinoma" that make up 95 percent of pancreatic cancer cases. Amri said neuroendocrine tumors are so "mild" that....................

Yes, clearly evidenced by the fact that most people die within weeks of a pancreatic cancer diagnosis, yet he lived for years.

You could live 20 yrs with Pancreatic cancer. Very slow killer. There are no signs until it's too late, usually. It would appear Jobs was caught early enough.

I don't think Jobs had typical pancreatic cancer. As the Harvard Cancer Expert was probably referring to when he called it "a mild form of cancer that is not usually fatal".

I wasn't aware that he had access to Jobs' medical records. Oh, that must be because he doesn't, and says as much. His only sources are what's been reported in the media.

Jobs' diagnosis was reported in the media for years before he died. If for some reason the reports were wrong, and he chose to let the falsehood spread, then you should really stop disrespecting him by not honoring his dying wish.

LMAO fanbois take brand loyalty to a whole new level.

He didn't have the same disease that most people who die from pancreatic cancer have.

That's my understanding as well. Although I really don't know and it's seems pretty pointless to speculate on his medical care and choices regarding it. Those are entirely his choices and I see no good in even discussing it.

I'm just trying to combat the unreasonable seething hatred. Posting this wasn't an attempt at educating people about the foolishness of alternative medicine in the face of science. It was about deriding a dead guy.

I don't have access to his medical records, so I don't think that presuming we know anything about the way he handled it is the way to go.

Even still, it killed him. Cancer is a cruel bitch.

Yes. It's almost always crueler if you delay the best treatment in favor of the wrong one or wishful thinking though.

I didn't read this as as much of a hit piece on Jobs as you did. If it was, it's in poor taste. There's no reference guide available to tell newly diagnosed cancer patient what their best course of action is with any certainty. I have no problem with Jobs making the decision he thought was best. It's a shame that it didn't work out for him.

It wasn't the piece so much as the malice of the poster of the piece.

LMAO

There was no malice in my post. I quoted the article and nothing else.

****ing Apple fanboys. :deevee:

Given the tone of every other post you make regarding Apple, I just don't buy that.

I own more Microsoft products and use Google more than I do Apple products. I just don't have an irrational hatred of Apple like you and AC do. I try to be even-keeled about it, but you guys hat Apple so much that it makes a moderate position look glowing in comparison.

Unfortunately you can't buy anything Steve is selling anymore.

1 year anniversary of his death today.....


http://www.apple.com/

I don't hate Apple but I sure as shit hate Microsoft.

Thats the way I remember Steve. The early days. He was a pretty incredible human being, a true visionary.

So they make you stand in line at the website also.