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Bewbies 08-07-2018 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 13663506)
Shit that is so tempting it’s crazy. If you pay cash do you get the rebates up front or do you have to wait for 6 months to get them?

It's a tax credit, so it's money you don't have to pay to the gov't in tax.

MahiMike 08-07-2018 02:02 PM

Tesla suspended trading today? Musk saying he's going to take the stock off the exchanges and go private.

DaFace 08-07-2018 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13663507)
It's a tax credit, so it's money you don't have to pay to the gov't in tax.

In Colorado at least, the state tax credit is given at the dealer as is the $3k rebate from Xcel. The federal tax credit has to be filed with your taxes as you said.

You do still pay sales tax on the full MSRP, so that adds back in a grand or two depending on your tax rate.

DaFace 08-07-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13663502)
If the new Leaf coming with the 200 mile battery is available close to that price they'll sell as many as they can make there.

Georgia got rid of the credit so not as big of a deal here anymore. BUT you can get a used Leaf all day long for about $7500 here.

I absolutely love the Leaf as a commuter car and would pay $7500 for it all day every day. It's primarily my wife's car, but it's super nice to never have to deal with oil changes and gas. I personally found them to be a little underpowered prior to the 2018 update (which is why we only bought ours this year), but they're still super convenient for short trips.

DaFace 08-07-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13663521)
Tesla suspended trading today? Musk saying he's going to take the stock off the exchanges and go private.

Halted for an hour or so. Not entirely sure why. That would be up to the exchange rather than Tesla itself as far as I know.

Buehler445 08-07-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13663419)
Yeah, the credit probably had a more meaningful impact on sales of other EVs like the Nissan Leaf (the one I bought) and Chevy Bolt. With a price tag around $35k, that $7,500 is pretty significant. At a price point of $50k+, it makes less of a difference.

I didn’t know you bought a Leaf. Did you keep both the Subaru’s?

DaFace 08-07-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13663581)
I didn’t know you bought a Leaf. Did you keep both the Subaru’s?

Yep, bought ours back in February as soon as the 2018's hit the lot. Traded in the wife's car, but kept mine.

I think it would be hard to have an EV-only household unless you never left town, but having one EV and one gas works great. We drive the Leaf around town and even around the Front Range, but we still have the Outback for ski days and longer road trips back home and such.

Chief Pagan 08-07-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13660867)
I don't know that visionary needs to mean that the core of the idea is their own. He is pushing these ideas, where in some of the categories, nobody else was. These are all things that would likely happen at some point anyway, but pushing the world to see the events happen now or as soon as possible counts for something in my book.

He joined a fairly crowded field for private space launches. He wasn't the only one making batteries. China also has mega battery factories.

Credit for bringing the first all electric upscale sports car to market. Although given the huge amount of torque that electric motors can generate, I'm surprised it took so long.

And what else? A bunch of adolescent fantasies?

Chief Pagan 08-07-2018 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13663381)
Elon must be getting tired of answering to public investors.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured.</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026872652290379776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wonder where he is going to get the money to buy out stock holders at $420.

That is usually the sort of thing you do when your stock is in the tank. Not when you have a tiny car company with a market capitalization bigger than GM.

Buehler445 08-07-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 13663670)
Wonder where he is going to get the money to buy out stock holders at $420.

That is usually the sort of thing you do when your stock is in the tank. Not when you have a tiny car company with a market capitalization bigger than GM.

Outside investors.

Buehler445 08-07-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13663585)
Yep, bought ours back in February as soon as the 2018's hit the lot. Traded in the wife's car, but kept mine.

I think it would be hard to have an EV-only household unless you never left town, but having one EV and one gas works great. We drive the Leaf around town and even around the Front Range, but we still have the Outback for ski days and longer road trips back home and such.

Cool man.

chiefzilla1501 08-07-2018 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 13663663)
He joined a fairly crowded field for private space launches. He wasn't the only one making batteries. China also has mega battery factories.

Credit for bringing the first all electric upscale sports car to market. Although given the huge amount of torque that electric motors can generate, I'm surprised it took so long.

And what else? A bunch of adolescent fantasies?

Why are you surprised? You realize all the industries trying to bring batteries down, right? It was David against Goliath.

MahiMike 08-08-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 13663670)
Wonder where he is going to get the money to buy out stock holders at $420.

That is usually the sort of thing you do when your stock is in the tank. Not when you have a tiny car company with a market capitalization bigger than GM.

This company is in the tank. That's what some of you guys are missing. It was a nice dream but at some point your company has to actually make money.

DaFace 08-08-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13664498)
This company is in the tank. That's what some of you guys are missing. It was a nice dream but at some point your company has to actually make money.

Ha. No.

Bwana 09-29-2018 08:00 PM

Oh my.......

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/29/tec...ent/index.html

-King- 09-29-2018 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 13773445)

At least this cuts down on his workload a bit. I seriously think he's on the edge of totally melting down and needs to take his workload down a few notches.
Posted via Mobile Device

vailpass 09-30-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13773474)
At least this cuts down on his workload a bit. I seriously think he's on the edge of totally melting down and needs to take his workload down a few notches.
Posted via Mobile Device

Absolutely. Calling the French rescue diver a chomo, smoking pot on camera, publicly talking out of his ass about taking the company private, etc.
Slow down and breathe man.

DaFace 10-24-2018 06:01 PM

In case anyone cares, Tesla posted its biggest ever profit in Q3. Still a ways to go to erase years of losses (though you could even argue that those were largely capital investments), but that's a pretty solid indicator that the model is going to work.

Electrek: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car by revenue and delivers surprisingly high gross margin.
https://electrek.co/2018/10/24/tesla...-gross-margin/

FAX 10-24-2018 06:48 PM

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Bowser 10-24-2018 06:57 PM

I can't lie, I always love those. LMAO

Buehler445 10-24-2018 07:19 PM

God that is funny.

Rain Man 10-24-2018 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13842246)
I can't lie, I always love those. LMAO

Yeah, same here. That scene can fill in for so many things.

Has anyone made a Broncos one yet?

Sofa King 10-24-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13842293)
Yeah, same here. That scene can fill in for so many things.

Has anyone made a Broncos one yet?

Oh man, a RAIDERS one right now lol

DaFace 06-02-2019 09:23 PM

Elon claims the truck will start at $49k. (Though it took them forever to offer a $35k Model 3, so take with a grain of salt.)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tesla Pickup Truck To Be Priced Below $50,000 <a href="https://t.co/RNIgoSgGAq">https://t.co/RNIgoSgGAq</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/InsideEVs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@insideevs</a>.com</p>&mdash; InsideEVs (@InsideEVs) <a href="https://twitter.com/InsideEVs/status/1135210052011331586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

(Also, for the record, the image in the article is NOT an official render. They haven't released a render yet.

HonestChieffan 06-03-2019 09:46 AM

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/t...w-it-will-end/

Interesting take, the work they have done may make it but as a company they cant survive and Musk is a bit of a crazy. Brilliant, but....

BigRichard 06-03-2019 10:06 AM

Yeah, I invested a few thousand in them not too long ago and that shit has taken a hit. I am in it for the long haul but it isn't looking good as far as the company goes.

DaFace 06-03-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 14292896)
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/t...w-it-will-end/

Interesting take, the work they have done may make it but as a company they cant survive and Musk is a bit of a crazy. Brilliant, but....

Yeah, that article is fair. I've been saying this for a while now.

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Tesla will not go bankrupt. It cannot go bankrupt. At the moment, the company is still well-placed to raise another funding round and could likely even do as many as three more funding events before investors stop lining up. Failure for Tesla won’t happen tomorrow, but it is coming. More and more evangelists are changing their tunes as competition in EVs gets fiercer. Wall street is losing patience with broken promises and erratic CEO behavior. And the everyday consumer is finding more electric car options that tempt their dollar now that Tesla is not the only game in town. No, Tesla’s end will not happen tomorrow, nor will it be a dramatic collapse.

Telsa is too valuable a brand to disappear in a cloud of Chapter 11 smoke. Again, history bears this out. The vast majority of automotive brands from years past were acquired or absorbed into larger brands, where some succeeded brilliantly (Dodge) and others slowly morphed into something unrecognizable (Hudson). Arguably, the Tesla brand is the most valuable piece of Tesla’s balance sheet as other manufacturers have caught up with their hard technology (batteries, chargers), and are rapidly chasing down their soft technology (Autopilot). The Tesla brand is global in reach, and still viewed favorably overall by the public.

The endgame for Tesla is an acquisition. It is the way of the automotive jungle — the circle of corporate life, as it were. The unknowable part at the moment is exactly who will acquire Tesla, as the list is quite long. Another car company is the reflexive bet, but Silicon Valley and Chinese auto manufacturers are all likely bidders as well. Apple already offered to buy Tesla back in 2013 for more than the company is worth at the time of this story. The field of suitors is wide open, and the eventual winner could well come as a surprise to the everyday public.


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