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KevB 02-27-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9445171)
Of course 49ers are going to be nice to us and say positive things about Alex Smith.

WE JUST PRACTICALLY GAVE THEM A ****ING DYNASTY.

In this draft, the #34 pick represents a franchise cornerstone-type guy. That's unusual to find that kind of value.

Give somebody $5000 on the street and see if they're nice to you.

That's what we just did.

They may have just been handed a Tavon Austin essentially for free. Think they'll like having their very own Randall Cobb?

htismaqe 02-27-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9445171)
Of course 49ers are going to be nice to us and say positive things about Alex Smith.

WE JUST PRACTICALLY GAVE THEM A ****ING DYNASTY.

In this draft, the #34 pick represents a franchise cornerstone-type guy. That's unusual to find that kind of value.

Give somebody $5000 on the street and see if they're nice to you.

That's what we just did.

We gave them Flowers, essentially.

ChiefsSuckBalls 02-27-2013 11:57 AM

This is a great trade guys. All Alex Smith needs is more snaps.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-27-2013 11:57 AM

One thing...

**** you Reid/Dorsey.

Ming the Merciless 02-27-2013 11:57 AM

this is the .500 andy reid of the last 7 years


certainly not the ****ing 60-30 MAN he was the 1st few seasons


this is ****ing shit


im upset

tooge 02-27-2013 11:57 AM

Somewhere in California, Harbaugh is laughing his ass off as he tries to say " holy shit, they bought it"

Direckshun 02-27-2013 11:57 AM

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2013recap.php

Chiefs acquire QB Alex Smith from 49ers for 2nd-round and possible 2014 2nd-rounder
Jim Harbaugh is a genius. Alex Smith was considered to be a candidate for release when Harbaugh took over as head coach of the 49ers. However, Harbaugh claimed that he was a fan of Smith's when the Utah product entered the league. Harbaugh then coached him up and turned him into a solid starter. It was obvious though that Smith would never lead the 49ers to a Super Bowl because of his limitations. That's why Harbaugh made the obvious choice to go with Colin Kaepernick.

Well, it was obvious to everyone except the Chiefs. This is an absolutely terrible trade for them. Smith, without Harbaugh, is a pedestrian signal-caller at best. He'll regress without Harbaugh, just as Matt Cassel did when he lost Charlie Weis. Andy Reid has been good with quarterbacks, but he's no Harbaugh.

It's true that Kansas City didn't have many other options at quarterback, but Smith is just a short-term stop gap until Andy Reid acquires a legitimate franchise quarterback. With that in mind, why didn't the Chiefs just pursue Matt Moore in free agency? He's just as good as Smith and would have been much cheaper. More importantly, he wouldn't have cost Kansas City a valuable second-round draft pick.

Based on PFCentral's report, I gave the Chiefs a C when it was speculated they gave up a third-rounder for Smith. But a second this year and a potential second next year? What a joke. Again Harbaugh deserves all of the credit for duping a team into thinking that Smith is a solid starter. He's not. Andy Reid must have lost his mind. The Chiefs will continue to struggle for a long time.

Meanwhile, the 49ers now have 15 draft picks, including Nos. 31 and 34. They obviously can't keep all 15 because that's too many rookies. They're obviously plotting some sort of trade. The two strongest possibilities are for Percy Harvin and Darrelle Revis. Both would fill the 49ers' second- and third-greatest needs (see 49ers team needs here.) They may also want to move up for someone like Sheldon Richardson or Sharrif Floyd, should either fall into the bottom half of the top 10.

Grade for Chiefs - F
Grade for 49ers - A+

scho63 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

I know most of you are in the process of committing Hari-Kari over this signing but our past experience with 49'er QBs has not been all that bad.....

Let him throw some passes and let's see what happens. The guy hasn't even put on a KC uniform yet and half of you want to already fire Dorsey and Reid.

JFC please calm down and step back from the ledge. :rolleyes:

htismaqe 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9445188)
I think I'm done. Does that mean no more coming to CP? Possibly.

For me, most definitely.

loochy 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 9445018)
How does everyone else feel? mad? i am honestly heartbroken. Its just sad.

Hopeless and not surprised

Molitoth 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9445165)
Wow that JSiedlak is quite the asshole.

It needed to be said. Sometime I wish I had twitter so i could go off.

loochy 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9445188)
I think I'm done. Does that mean no more coming to CP? Possibly.

No way. You need to come here to talk about racism and poop.

Chiefs=Champions 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

The only possible way im not done with this team is for them to take Geno.

Sully 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9444976)
Dont rip off my shit man. Be a man.

Funniest post you've ever had!
ROFL

allen_kcCard 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

Praying this is a ruse to get his rights and then flip him and rape Arizona for him.

ChiefsCountry 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9445171)
Of course 49ers are going to be nice to us and say positive things about Alex Smith.

WE JUST PRACTICALLY GAVE THEM A ****ING DYNASTY.

In this draft, the #34 pick represents a franchise cornerstone-type guy. That's unusual to find that kind of value.

Give somebody $5000 on the street and see if they're nice to you.

That's what we just did.

Nah they still have a second round pick playing quarterback for them. Plenty of heart break still to come for the 49ers.

saphojunkie 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

You know, I was a 49'ers fan before Montana was traded to the chiefs.

I wanted KC to draft Kaepernick. And the 49'ers apparently know how to run a franchise.

And I live in California.

I'm a ****ing 49'ers fan now.

God, you Chiefs fans must hate life. What a terrible franchise you have. I'm so glad my team isn't as bad as Kansas City.

(This doesn't help, but hopefully I get used to it)

Bootlegged 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

Nobody else on the market could do this.
 
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Ming the Merciless 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 9445180)
Is there ANY chance we take a QB at #1 now?

no.

My honest shining hope was we take a QB at #2 if we were going to get Alex...


but guess what?

THEY ****ING BLEW THE #2



jesus h christ


RAGE

loochy 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9445205)
I know most of you are in the process of committing Hari-Kari over this signing but our past experience with 49'er QBs has not been all that bad.....

Let him throw some passes and let's see what happens. The guy hasn't even put on a KC uniform yet and half of you want to already fire Dorsey and Reid.

JFC please calm down and step back from the ledge. :rolleyes:

Mediocrity is the experience. Mediocrity only breeds more mediocrity. We can make the playoffs and have no real chance to do anything. Big whoop.

Frazod 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

Goodbye Sunday Ticket. 4321

Imon Yourside 02-27-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9445205)
I know most of you are in the process of committing Hari-Kari over this signing but our past experience with 49'er QBs has not been all that bad.....

Let him throw some passes and let's see what happens. The guy hasn't even put on a KC uniform yet and half of you want to already fire Dorsey and Reid.

JFC please calm down and step back from the ledge. :rolleyes:

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

saphojunkie 02-27-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9445217)
Nah they still have a second round pick playing quarterback for them. Plenty of heart break still to come for the 49ers.

**** MY LIFE.

mnchiefsguy 02-27-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BTAU (Post 9445166)
Clayton says its this years 2nd and a conditional mid-round in 2014.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...-chiefs-source

The San Francisco 49ers have agreed to trade quarterback Alex Smith to the Kansas City Chiefs, a league source confirmed to ESPN.com's John Clayton.

Kansas City will trade its second-round pick in the 2013 draft -- the second selection (No. 34 overall) in the round -- as well as another conditional mid-round pick in 2014 to acquire Smith from San Francisco, a league source told ESPN.

That is still way too ****ing much. Smith is not worth it.

Sully 02-27-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9445219)
You know, I was a 49'ers fan before Montana was traded to the chiefs.

I wanted KC to draft Kaepernick. And the 49'ers apparently know how to run a franchise.

And I live in California.

I'm a ****ing 49'ers fan now.

God, you Chiefs fans must hate life. What a terrible franchise you have. I'm so glad my team isn't as bad as Kansas City.

(This doesn't help, but hopefully I get used to it)

My dad was a 49ers fan.
Interesting new era QB, great history, new stadium?

You may be onto something

KC_Connection 02-27-2013 12:00 PM

Yep, I feared this. The Andy Reid honeymoon period is officially over here. He's now been completely exposed for the overrated hire and poor talent evaluator that he always was. Alex Smith isn't Donovan McNabb, he won't save Andy.

HemiEd 02-27-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9445056)
Well, this is a bummer.

For the record, I don't think Smith = Cassel, but I also don't think he's good enough to win you a super bowl.

I think his ceiling is a Trent Green type.

Only way this trade works for me is if we somehow get....oh, Barkley or someone to groom behind him.

Maybe somebody will want to move up for Geno?

Haven't you heard? Trent Green was flawless!

saphojunkie 02-27-2013 12:01 PM

The NFL is consolidating its mediocrity.

"Kansas City CANNOT have a franchise QB. And Alex Smith is too mediocre for a premier team. Hmm... two birds and I only have this one stone. What to do..."

ct 02-27-2013 12:01 PM

Alex Smith is still a good QB. Good, not great, not elite, and this deal is a huge blow of chunks! #34 alone is way too much, bu they get a mid-round conditional next year too? Geez....

teedubya 02-27-2013 12:01 PM

If we traded #34. I'll be pissed. There will be some great talent there in that spot.

**** ME.

RunKC 02-27-2013 12:01 PM

ESPN just said the 49ers might just sign Cassel to be the backup.

So they traded their Cassel for 2nd round pick + another high pick in 2014 and are getting our Cassel for nothing.

We're getting RAPED.

Joe Seahawk 02-27-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9445230)
**** MY LIFE.

With the 34th pick of the 2013 draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Geno Smith, West Virginia

DaKCMan AP 02-27-2013 12:01 PM

smh

Skyy God 02-27-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 9445180)
Is there ANY chance we take a QB at #1 now?

Negative eleventybillion.

Red Brooklyn 02-27-2013 12:02 PM

I'd prepared myself for Alex Smith. But not at this price. I said I was willing to give this new regime the benefit of the doubt; that I'm not a professional like these guys are supposed to be. I said I was willing to give Pioli a three year buffer to see what he could do before I judged him. Then the Cassel trade happened and I shortened it to two years. But I had a really bad feeling.

This feels like Deja Vu.

I want to trust these guys. But I'm starting to feel like a battered wife, making excuses and coming back for more again and again and again and again...

Draft day will determine a lot for me.

Rooster 02-27-2013 12:02 PM

God I hate this ****ing team.:banghead:

BWillie 02-27-2013 12:02 PM

Might as well of resigned contract for Matt Cassel, I mean what difference does it really make. :(

dirk digler 02-27-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9445233)
Yep, I feared this. The Andy Reid honeymoon period is officially over here. He's now been completely exposed for the overrated hire and poor talent evaluator that he always was. Alex Smith isn't Donovan McNabb, he won't save Andy.

Yep. I never wanted to hire that fat piece of shit in the first place. **** him and **** Clark.

loochy 02-27-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9445242)
ESPN just said the 49ers might just sign Cassel to be the backup.

So they traded their Cassel for 2nd round pick + another high pick in 2014 and are getting our Cassel for nothing.

We're getting RAPED.

we should pay them to take our cassel

KC_Connection 02-27-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9445259)
Yep. I never wanted to hire that fat piece of shit in the first place. **** him and **** Clark.

The guy and his team sucked in the post-McNabb years in Philly. I don't understand why so many wanted to ignore that. I guess because Pioli was finally gone, but that still doesn't make it a good hire.

Hoover 02-27-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 9445221)
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So we are taking a TE with the first pick in the draft?

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 9445221)
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Better go get ****ing Davis then.

Strongside 02-27-2013 12:04 PM

God damn the Royals had better win this year.

pr_capone 02-27-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9444589)
Some of us advised against that and of course we got drowned out.

Yes... because our banner would have made all the ****ing difference in the world as to WHOM got selected.

warpaint* 02-27-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9445205)
I know most of you are in the process of committing Hari-Kari over this signing but our past experience with 49'er QBs has not been all that bad.....

Let him throw some passes and let's see what happens. The guy hasn't even put on a KC uniform yet and half of you want to already fire Dorsey and Reid.

JFC please calm down and step back from the ledge. :rolleyes:

I'm sure he will be "not that bad". Settling for "not that bad" is why this franchise hasn't won a playoff game in 20 years and a Super Bowl in 43.

Among other things.

And to top it off they grossly overpay. A swift kick to the nuts wasn't good enough. It had to be a sledgehammer.

All of the hope I had is gone. All of it.

crazycoffey 02-27-2013 12:05 PM

How about we trade casshole to the jags for their #2?

KurtCobain 02-27-2013 12:05 PM

I think we're on the fast track to success it just sucks we probably got rid of the pic we could have got Bray with.

Strongside 02-27-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9445279)
So we are taking a TE with the first pick in the draft?

Might as well. Hell, take a ****ing kicker.

beer bacon 02-27-2013 12:06 PM

Why roll the dice on a potential franchise QB when you can trade a 2nd rounder and more for a 30 year old QB that has already proven he isn't a franchise QB? The Chiefs' logic for the last 30 years.

O.city 02-27-2013 12:06 PM

They better pray to the holy god almighty that none of these QB's from this class end up being a franchise guy.

rico 02-27-2013 12:06 PM

AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Dawg 02-27-2013 12:07 PM

Now a trade down will loom to get our pi k back.

saphojunkie 02-27-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9445282)
God damn the Royals had better win this year.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

rico 02-27-2013 12:07 PM

I seriously want to just ****ing cry right now. I just can't wrap my head around this shit.

KevB 02-27-2013 12:07 PM

Can someone point me to the really good data someone put together about high QB draft picks vs. other postions? I need it really bad to combat the idiots around me happy about this deal.

Strongside 02-27-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 9445311)
Now a trade down will loom to get our pi k back.

Not going to happen. We have ****ed up big.

bevischief 02-27-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn (Post 9445251)
I'd prepared myself for Alex Smith. But not at this price. I said I was willing to give this new regime the benefit of the doubt; that I'm not a professional like these guys are supposed to be. I said I was willing to give ***** a three year buffer to see what he could do before I judged him. Then the Cassel trade happened and I shortened it to two years. But I had a really bad feeling.

This feels like Deja Vu.

I want to trust these guys. But I'm starting to feel like a battered wife, making excuses and coming back for more again and again and again and again...

Draft day will determine a lot for me.

I agree.

dirk digler 02-27-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9445277)
The guy and his team sucked in the post-McNabb years in Philly. I don't understand why so many wanted to ignore that. I guess because ***** was finally gone, but that still doesn't make it a good hire.

I never understood it either. The last couple of years he had a Chiefs esque record\team. He wasn't really any better than Romeo this year.

noa 02-27-2013 12:09 PM

Out only hope is that Smith fails so spectacularly that the front office isn't tantalized to stick with him as long as we did with Cassel.

Ming the Merciless 02-27-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9445242)
ESPN just said the 49ers might just sign Cassel to be the backup.

So they traded their Cassel for 2nd round pick + another high pick in 2014 and are getting our Cassel for nothing.

We're getting RAPED.

They just ****ing scammed us...

I swear to god this is the worst "move" I have ever seen...

PA Chiefs 02-27-2013 12:11 PM

I think we will trade the first pick but now but we have no leverage So someone is going to be able to steal that pick from us THIS JUST SUCKS

gblowfish 02-27-2013 12:11 PM

Press: "So, Alex, how do you feel about going to Kansas City?"

AS: "I'll miss the food. The worst restaurant in the Bay Area is better than the best restaurant in Kansas City."

Press: "So, Alex, Kansas City may lose Dwayne Bowe, which leaves you Baldwin and Wylie as wide outs. Thoughts?"

AS: "I can't throw it AND catch it, too."

Press: "You were benched for Kapernick with the 49ers. Did you think that was warranted?"

AS: "I felt pretty good out there, actually."


Press: "What if the Chiefs draft a young QB? Do you feel any pressure to succeed?"

AS: "As long as it's not Rich Gannon, I think I'll be fine."

ReynardMuldrake 02-27-2013 12:11 PM

Maybe we can start a whisper campaign to discredit Alex Smith. I hear he is addicted to painkillers and likes to punch referees in the face. Also he is sleeping with Andy's wife.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-27-2013 12:11 PM

This ruined my ****ing day. Ruined.

htismaqe 02-27-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 9445311)
Now a trade down will loom to get our pi k back.

And every team in the league knows it.

Our pick is now un-trade-able. We'll have to give it away.

Way to go Chiefs!

PA Chiefs 02-27-2013 12:13 PM

I said the other day how important #34 was now words cant explain this

Stryker 02-27-2013 12:13 PM

Shit!
Just
Shit!

I cant believe that I can actually believe this! :deevee::banghead:

Kiimo 02-27-2013 12:14 PM

Clayton now saying it's a swap of 2nd round picks.


Not as bad. Still sucks.

Kiimo 02-27-2013 12:14 PM

Clayton now saying it's a swap of 2nd round picks.


Not as bad. Still sucks.

tooge 02-27-2013 12:14 PM

Look at the bright side guys. We get to see Geno Smith play twice a year still. WITH THE ****IN RAIDERS. Damn you, you've blown it all to hell!!!!!!!!

Setsuna 02-27-2013 12:15 PM

Even I'm depressed and livid. Is this real?

Munson 02-27-2013 12:15 PM

MOTHER****ER! :cuss:

Alex Smith is Dorsey's "original sin." We're getting ass raped in a trade for another team's shitty QB. The next 4 or 5 years will be a complete waste, and we'll be right back where we are today, the worst team in the league, still looking for a QB.

I swear, this team never learns from its mistakes. This is our best chance in 30 freaking years to draft a 1st round franchise QB, and we trade for Matt Cassel 2.0.

This means we're drafting a LT with our #1 pick. True fans rejoice.

****! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Cannibal 02-27-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9444535)
Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly

The #49ers will get a No. 2 pick this year and a similar pick in 2014 from the #Chiefs for QB lex Smith, per @timkawakami

If that is what they're giving up, they definately intend on having Smith start.

mr. tegu 02-27-2013 12:15 PM

Well, how many are now going to switch to being the other kind of football fan?

http://www.sports-logos-screensavers...ansas_City.jpg

ForeverChiefs58 02-27-2013 12:15 PM

SF now owns picks at No. 31, 34, and 61 and a total of 15 picks in the draft with a lot of depth

God I hate this ****ing franchise

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 9445377)
Clayton now saying it's a swap of 2nd round picks.


Not as bad. Still sucks.

Well..... can live with that.

mr. tegu 02-27-2013 12:16 PM

So which high school senior QBs can we start scouting?

kcxiv 02-27-2013 12:17 PM

I'm seriously thinking about not being a fan anymore. It's like whoever runs the team is trying to suck on purpose.

warpaint* 02-27-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9445277)
The guy and his team sucked in the post-McNabb years in Philly. I don't understand why so many wanted to ignore that. I guess because ***** was finally gone, but that still doesn't make it a good hire.

I hoped if somebody else (Dorsey) was drafting players we'd be alright.
The hype on Reid identifying QB talent is hot air. Personally I think McNabb was overrated but regardless even to the extent of success he had he was the 2nd overall pick for cripes sake. Kolb is garbage. Vick is the most overrated player in the league and can't read a picture book. Other picks: Mike Kafka, Andy Hall, AJ Feely, all trash.

And now this poop sandwich paid a kings ransom for

Very frustrating

ToxSocks 02-27-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 9445377)
Clayton now saying it's a swap of 2nd round picks.


Not as bad. Still sucks.

That's actually quite a bit different, if true.

But i highly doubt it's true.


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