The worst restaurant in Miami is better than the best restaurant in Kansas City.

I agree here. I wish we went that direction, but we are cursed. There's no other reasoning for it

Coming from a guy who gave up on a QB prospect based on his draft offseason, not game tape, not sure I agree.

None of these QB's are Luck or RG3.

They're also not normal talents like Stafford, Bradford or Rivers either.

Winner

Very. It's the luck of the Chiefs to get 1.1 on a worse draft class than 2009

Stafford, Bradford and Rivers are normal talents?


Jesus H. we have some high standards for QB's.

Fighting words, those are.

I'm offended at this post.

A new schpankidy 6yr/120million dollar contract extension for Alex Smith.

I've been to Miami. I'll take Jack Stack.

Jack Stack is good, but the best BBQ in KC comes from a gas station.

Exactly. Bradford had concerns coming out as well as Stafford. This draft reminds me kind of like 2008.

Stupindependence def.when someone says something so stupid that they have freed themselves from the rest of the pack.

e.g. When you said this you displayed a high level of stupindependence.

I agree. And this is coming from a huge Arthur Bryant's fan.

So that Dorsey can stick to is strategy of BPA?

I can see it now, Okay guys, we have our board set, it looks like Joeckel is the #1 guy.

But we have a problem, we have a veteran starter at that position. Anybody have any ideas?

Never had it.

This. Development can provide players, especially QBs, the chance to live up their potential. The downfall of a player, like Bradford, could arguably be attributed to rushing them into a starting lineup or changing offensive philosophies frequently

He's just trolling.

That douche will saying anything or take any side to get attention. Hell, he even flip-flops on an issue if he thinks the other side will get him more attention ... even if it's negative.

OK J's has the best overall Q IMO. The Zman is ****ing legendary. Their burnt ends are great too.

I think J. Stack has the best brisket and their sides are awesome.

Bryants has great ribs.

But you definitely have to try OKie Joes.

Can you order it and have it shipped?

Miami has some good food, but KC BBQ is among the best cuisine in the world...

Back to the topic at hand, building a franchise around a LT.

It's funny. Alex Smith gets that excuse, but a guy like Bradford who has had an equally shitty situation, doesn't.

If that's the case then why do you have Texas Tom's in your avatar?

That's because Alex Smith is our QB now LMAO

Dunno about O.K Joes. Check out the website.


But food in KC is great. Even outside of BBQ. Beer Kitchen, McCoys, Flea Market, The Majestic, Piropos, The Boot, Plaza III, a few places near Brooksider etc. are all awesome.


IMO, the Majestic has the best steaks and wine selection I've ever had.

Why don't we turn to my Geno is better than... poll to see if that's actually true.

Most people who voted tended to say that Geno was better than Bradford as a prospect, and I legitimately agree with that. I like him better than Rivers (who sat for his rookie year *gasp*) and Stafford, but people tend to be higher on Stafford than Geno. I can buy that.

In the meantime, it's pretty ****ing stupid to say the top QBs in this class are less than "normal" because Bradford and Rivers are way below normal top QB prospects. I really don't know what Bradford did to tickle your balls coming out of college that Geno does not do.

Let me guess, 'WINZ GAMEZ!!!!!!!111"

Yeah, a lot of good that "winner" mentality from college is doing him now in the pros.

A not as well known place downtown is Grinders. It's awesome for pizza.

RunKC can keep Bradford.

I would argue that Bradford has had worse. To compare the rbs are a wash. Buy you think that the best wr Bradford had to work with was Ameyendola and you start to see the vast differences in what each qb had.

I would take Sam Bradford in a HB.

I wonder if we do follow thru with this, do we still try and trade down?

that sums it up too LMAO

Guess we'll find out in 3 years.

Every year is the wrong ****ing year.

Let me guess, it's just "bad luck," right?

Maybe it's because the franchise has never had any ****ing testicles. They're a bunch of dickless douchebags who think great RBs win championships, and that QBs are just complementary guys that you find whenever you can like they're ****ing kickers or punters.

I would hope so, but it doesn't appear possible. There is just no stand out player of need. We will have another t jacks pick on our hands, just have to hope this pick pays off.

Protecting Alex Smith with a rookie LT strikes me as a really bad ****ing idea.

If our LT busts we're going to have one of the worst offenses in football.

Reid and Dorsey better hope they're right, or they'll be working for the NFL network then too.

We just treated the QB spot with the most importance. Best available QB , best backup.


Move on man.

Who was Smiths best WR his first three years?

What sucks is, this it's my line of thinking as . There can be no higher payoff than successfully picking a QB and doing so locks up franchise success for years on end. When there is no clear cut choice, why not take the chance on the player that could define your career?

It's a dysfunctional franchise. You'll rarely be wrong if you expect the Chiefs to make the incorrect decision.

Honestly, we should be at the point where anyone hired by the Chiefs should immediately be subjected to skepticism precisely because they were hired by the Chiefs.

Because you might miss out on a franchise LT?

I'd really like to get the NFL's REAL opinion on this. Everybody seems to be patting us on the head like we're ****ing 3 years old and just built a shitty tower out of Duplo blocks.

"You found a QB! Good for you! Maybe some day in about 3 or 4 years you can be like mommy and daddy and get big people jobs!"

I have a feeling what the NFL really thinks about these moves is, "Pretty shitty. Hope we get to play the Chiefs a bunch for the next few years."

Not unless we take him.

The Patriot Way is 99% bullshit, but there's one thing they believe in that I do as well.

If you don't draft a guy, it makes no difference what he does elsewhere. A player kicking ass elsewhere doesn't mean you made a mistake, and a player sucking ass somewhere else doesn't mean you made the right decision.

Circumstances are different. Coaching staffs, schemes, surrounding talent.

Someone like Tim Couch could have went somewhere else and been a decent QB. Aaron Rodgers could have went somewhere else and just been a decent QB.

What Geno - or any other player we pass on does - doesn't matter. You never know how he would have performed under different circumstances.

Now you're just trying to turn anti-Geno fans into morons who don't want any QB ever when that's not true at all.

You would have drafted JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch and Vince Young if you had the number 1 pick huh?

But hey at least those GM's tried!

I'm sure Reid and Dorsey care so much about your opinion of us drafting a QB just to say we did.

Sums it up nicely.

LOL I was flamed for bashing the Chiefs/Royals in a thread last week.

Then again I was also called reeruned for suggesting Pioli/Crennel be fired after the game against Atlanta.

Look at who the biggest bust QB's have been drafted by. Of course they were going to be shit, they went to shit franchises.

2013 Kansas City Chiefs.

Bad luck since Feburary, 1970.

My take on why that is espoused as Patriot Way philosophy:

I think there is legitimacy to it (Chaos Theory), but it also insulates the management from any skepticism on the players they pass up (Clay Matthews).

Dear lord. You all act Albert is Willie Roaf. He is solid at best. Our line can be upgraded with Fisher. We need a second rounder more.

Vernon Davis

Guys, we have to face the distinct possibility that the Chiefs are still ran by fools.

The compensation for Alex Smith was horrendous.

The Shaun Smith signing has FA bust written all over it.

Trading Albert to replace him with the first overall pick in the upcoming draft is quite possibly the worst usage EVER of a first overall pick.

This an objective evaluation of the moves.

These are the three highest-profile moves they've made this offseason.

If they all go wrong, damn. Reeking of Pioli.

Trust me tbe only reason I rebutted your statement was because of the top 10 monkier, I want someone to take a shot, but I have disgustingly admitted defeat seeing we are trying this hard to part with Albert.

Reid drafted a 30 year old guard in the first round.

Dorsey drafted 2 shitty tackles recently in the first round.

These guys love shitty linemen.

If they view Joeckel or Fisher as a better LT than Albert, and he is younger and cheaper, fine. Make the move.

Yep. His history with OLmen is piss-poor, to say the least.

Its SEAN Smith. So, if you're going to bash it, spell his name correctly.

It all goes back to ownership, anyway. Clark Hunt hired Pioli when even the Browns were taken aback by his demands. The ****ing Browns.

Given that, is it really a surprise he hired two guys who have made the moves they have until this point?

Incompetent people make incompetent decisions.

Ha, objective to who? The guy who has ripped the Sean Smith trade based on PFF and Dolphin message boards?

How does the Sean Smith signing have FA bust written all over it? The guy got a very friendly deal and is now going to be playing in a system he's much more suited for over the previous one he was in where he played in a zone system.

If they all go wrong, they can fall on the sword for it.

BTW OTW was right you make this move you might as well trade guys like Charles and Hali while you're at it. This move screams "rebuilding" but yet they over pay for average/below average free agent talent. This doesn't make sense.

I brought up that the Chiefs might be the worse franchise in the NFL a few weeks ago and got demolished for it.


At this point, I don't think it's too far off.

Chock full of truth.

PFF is the gospel when it supports his opinion but when it says Albert is average it is to be dismissed

He's a guy who gave up a lot of first downs, so let's not act like he's a premier corner, or even close to it.

These moves all have huge question marks. That's objective.

I agree. I still doubt that either are the prospect that Geno is, but I digress.

:spock:

Alex Smith was a proven winner. Geno is a question mark.

I think this criticism is completely unfair. Hunt went out and hired guys that were sought after. I really don't understand ripping him anymore.

The New York Giants wanted to hire Pioli in 2007, but he decided to stay with New England.

So are we going to criticize their decision too? That was his job if he wanted it back in 07 when Accorsi was let go.

IIRC, there's only 1 NFL franchise that has won fewer games than Kansas City in the past 6 seasons.

And after this season, we'll be looking at 20 years without a playoff win.

People can't handle the truth.

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It doesn't say Albert is average.

He gave up one sack, and was top 10 in PBE two years in a row.

GTFO.

It says he was the 25th best OT in the league last year.

One winning season is a proven winner? ROFL

He's not paid like a premier corner so why am I going to act like he is one?

He was a poor fit for a zone scheme.

Derrick Johnson was a poor fit in a 4-3 defense. We should totally have just based every opinion on his first 4 years in the league.

I'm selling these fine bridges.

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