Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9286105)

lol.

I hope you guys hire Pioli. Dude was the five time Exec. of the ****ing Century.

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9286053)

Bradford played for OK and was injured during his senior season. He was drafted based on his overall collegiate career/ reputation.
Ryan was at BU and was consistent with lower competition.
Geno at WV was less consistent than Ryan but has athletic upside. He's only 12 notches below Robert Griffin III in terms of mental and physical ability but since he resembles RGIII, the Chiefs will waste their No.1 pick on Geno? Not if the Walrus is in town...
SNR's gonna be pissed.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286108)

IMO as a passer they are very close. Geno doesn't bring the running aspect as much. They both have spectacular long balls...

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286111)

Cassel is a California guy... Maybe he just needs to go home

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286126)

:spock:

I've yet to see Geno throw a "spectacular" long ball that really stuck out and "wowed" me. I've seen plenty long balls where the receiver had to stop, slow down, change course, to get to the ball. I've seen plenty where he's over thrown the receiver by 5 yards.

That doesn't describe "spectacular long ball" to me.

Does he have an Arm? Yes. Does he have short/mid range accuracy? Yes. Does he have deep ball accuracy? Questionable.

Can't wait to use Andy Reid fix that though.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286126)

:spock:

I've yet to see Geno throw a "spectacular" long ball that really stuck out and "wowed" me. I've seen plenty long balls where the receiver had to stop, slow down, change course, to get to the ball. I've seen plenty where he's over thrown the receiver by 5 yards.

That doesn't describe "spectacular long ball" to me.

Does he have an Arm? Yes. Does he have short/mid range accuracy? Yes. Does he have deep ball accuracy? Questionable.

Can't wait to use Andy Reid fix that though.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286136)

Org I can tell you haven't watched shit.

Go watch the Baylor or Oklahoma games alone if you want deep balls of perfection.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286120)

How do you know anything about geno vs rg3 in "mental ability"?

Gtfo with that nonsense.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286126)

:spock:

I've yet to see Geno throw a "spectacular" long ball that really stuck out and "wowed" me. I've seen plenty long balls where the receiver had to stop, slow down, change course, to get to the ball. I've seen plenty where he's over thrown the receiver by 5 yards.

That doesn't describe "spectacular long ball" to me.

Does he have an Arm? Yes. Does he have short/mid range accuracy? Yes. Does he have deep ball accuracy? Questionable.

Can't wait to use Andy Reid fix that though.

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9286130)

LMAO.

I'd still be surprised if the Walrus goes with Geno. It will be interesting... If he does I'll assume he knew what he was doing or that he's displaying the onset of dementia and I'll hope for the latter.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286126)

:spock:

I've yet to see Geno throw a "spectacular" long ball that really stuck out and "wowed" me. I've seen plenty long balls where the receiver had to stop, slow down, change course, to get to the ball. I've seen plenty where he's over thrown the receiver by 5 yards.

That doesn't describe "spectacular long ball" to me.

Does he have an Arm? Yes. Does he have short/mid range accuracy? Yes. Does he have deep ball accuracy? Questionable.

Can't wait to use Andy Reid fix that though.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286136)

Omg I can tell you haven't watched shit.

Go watch the Baylor or Oklahoma games alone if you want deep balls of perfection.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286137)

You must not watch him play then...

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9286154)

jesus....just making shit up is one thing

but to make shit up and try to pass if off on this board is another

smith throws the most beautiful, accurate deep ball of any QB in college...go watch 'game tape'...****tard

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9286160)

Credibility lost

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286161)

I don't want to watch 2 games to see perfection, I want to see perfection in all of them.

Did you see the Texas Tech game? In all honesty that game right there was probably the most "telling" of his strengths and weaknesses. Same for the Texas game.



I have, a 10 yard pass is not a deep ball to me. A 15 yard pass is not a deep ball to me. I honestly don't even count a 20 yard pass as a deep ball. Its when you get to ~30 yards or more that we're talking deep ball status.

And I"m not talking the total length of play here, I'm speaking specifically of the distance between the QB when he releases, and when the Receiver catches the ball.

His deep ball accuracy is certainly questionable, especially at the NFL level. This isn't college where you can just heave it up and hope your receiver can run underneath it, like you see in at least 40% of the "brilliant" deep ball throws from Geno. You have to be able to throw the ball 35 yards down the field into a window, on time, in stride. He'll have to work on his touch slightly in the pros.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286175)

You can't judge his deep ball accuracy based on a highlights video, you have to look at each and every throw he attempts throughout the season, throughout his career.

It has become very apparent to me that 90% of you are watching highlight videos.

Do yourself a favor, find the games where your QB has done his WORST, and watch every single pass.

Believe it or not, the "worst" games translate more accurately to the NFL than the "highlight" reels.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9286179)

Not even going to argue with your dumb ass.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286192)

He doesn't watch two games where it was great but did you see that one game where he was bad?


JFC.
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9286191)

Well I'm glad we found someone who has watched every single pass Smith has every made in his career.

Meanwhile, I'm confident that you've seen Smith play less than most of us currently in this thread, and you're dead wrong in your analysis.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9286191)

Well I'm glad we found someone who has watched every single pass Smith has every made in his career.

Meanwhile, I'm confident that you've seen Smith play less than most of us currently in this thread, and you're dead wrong in your analysis.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286192)

He doesn't watch two games where it was great but did you see that one game where he was bad?


JFC.
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286161)

I don't want to watch 2 games to see perfection, I want to see perfection in all of them.

Did you see the Texas Tech game? In all honesty that game right there was probably the most "telling" of his strengths and weaknesses. Same for the Texas game.



I have, a 10 yard pass is not a deep ball to me. A 15 yard pass is not a deep ball to me. I honestly don't even count a 20 yard pass as a deep ball. Its when you get to ~30 yards or more that we're talking deep ball status.

And I"m not talking the total length of play here, I'm speaking specifically of the distance between the QB when he releases, and when the Receiver catches the ball.

His deep ball accuracy is certainly questionable, especially at the NFL level. This isn't college where you can just heave it up and hope your receiver can run underneath it, like you see in at least 40% of the "brilliant" deep ball throws from Geno. You have to be able to throw the ball 35 yards down the field into a window, on time, in stride. He'll have to work on his touch slightly in the pros.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286198)

I haven't seen one thing he has debated on this forum he has been right about
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286193)

Try it, you'll lose.

Put down the koolaid, take off the rose tinted glasses, and actually watch the kids game film, not highlights film.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286201)

I'm dead wrong in my analysis? Highlight films are more passable than films of him at his worst? You serious? Do you know the NFL?

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286202)

Tell me a college qb that played perfect in every game....
You can't.

Texas tech got ahead early and took the deep ball away in their gameplan. It was great coaching by tech. They figured out how to beat West Virginia. Congrats to them. There was still a lot of nfl quality passes in that tape by geno.

Go watch the Baylor and Oklahoma games I linked for you and pay attention mr. Deep ball of 30 yards.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286201)

I'm dead wrong in my analysis? Highlight films are more passable than films of him at his worst? You serious? Do you know the NFL?



You aren't even allowed to talk mr. "Ase Master Tech" who can't even tell me what test series he took.

You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT judge Geno's deep ball off of highlight films alone. GO watch every ****ing snap of every ****ing game like I have.

His deep ball is questionable and in April and May, you'll find all of the "analysts" will make remarks on it, ****ing bank on it.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9286208)

Films? LMAO. You mean YouTube clips.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286212)

The geno films we are watching include incomplete passes you ****ing idiot, they are not "highlights". They are the complete game for pass attempts.

But yeah, you won't see many incompletions.....

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286214)

dude why would I need to prove anything to your dumb ass?

You are obviously wrong.

Hell if you think we only watch highlights you can check.

There are only game threads here where most of us have discussed most every pass the kid has thrown when they were thrown.


But you are wrong as usual.
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286204)

How about our brake line debate?

You know, since you are a certified ASE Master Tech who can't prove it LMAO

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286223)

You were wrong.

I don't NEED TO PROVE IT. you were wrong on the brakes.

I have had the flu and been running a busy business but I will get time at my computer where I can link pics to brake lines that aren't the same length. And link articles that show you are dead nuts wrong in practicality and theory.

But that's another thread.

You are a dumbass on this one too
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286215)

Semantics.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9286233)

It's not semantics. Game tape is far, far different than broadcast footage of games.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286229)

How can you claim me to be wrong, if in your own words, you haven't had the time to prove me wrong?

You haven't done anything, and yes, you do have everything to prove in this sense.

You couldn't answer a simple question. What series tests did you take, and what pathway did you take to your supposed "ASE Master Tech". IF you can't even answer me what series you took, you clearly are not a master tech and probably haven't even taken a complete series yet.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286236)

That wasn't the argumentative point, it was a corrective point of Film vs. clips. At least how I took it.

You also don't need to see actual coaches film (what you are referring to), to see the weakness in his deep accuracy.

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9286247)

Who is the best deep passer coming out of college this year? In your opinion.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9286251)

Quickly Googles "Accuracy and QB 2013 draft" and finds Bleacherreport:

Tyler Wilson.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286237)

I can claim you to be wrong because I know you are. I know how brakes work.

You on the other hand...
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9286247)

Who is the best deep passer coming out of college this year? In your opinion.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286254)

lol
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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286268)

I can't fix stupid, not trying anymore.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286280)

Translation: it's not worth arguing with a dumb****
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286277)

I DO get paid, fairly well, to know how things work. THAT'S the ONLY way to fix them correctly.
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286271)

Define "lol" and explain it, for those of us who want to carry on an intellectual conversation that doesn't consist of "lols" and "ur a dummyface" please.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286280)

Translation: it's not worth arguing with a dumb****
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9286281)

It's BlackBob. I don't know why anyone even cares.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9286281)

It's BlackBob. I don't know why anyone even cares.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286286)

I laughed out loud because I knew that's what you would do, and then your next post said "maybe Wilson, but I think it's the guy I've been arguing against"
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286193)

Try it, you'll lose.

Put down the koolaid, take off the rose tinted glasses, and actually watch the kids game film, not highlights film.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9286292)

He's got so many mults on here he can keep one of his names green.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286283)

Now I know you're a big fat liar. As someone who has worked as a mechanic, the profession you claim, I can tell you with certainty that at least 50% of the cars that come in, I had no idea how THEY worked. Emphasis on they, because I"m talking at the technical level, not the remedial class "how stuff works.com" level.

If you knew how things work, you wouldn't need Mitchell, Alldata, and service manuals buddy.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9286298)

Sorry if you're a fickle chode who can't see what impact a real coaching staff with real offensive personnel and real training facilities could do to Geno's game.

Sorry if you're hung up on, "WHY DIDN'T HE BEAT TEXAS TECH LAWL"

Sorry if you're a ****ing reerun. Enjoy Kirk Cousins/Ryan Nassib/whatever sorry ass ****wad you want for "value"

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286302)

I am not blackbob god damnit. I don't know who or what blackbob is, aside from a street a block and a half away from me, but this pisses me off.

Contact a ****ing admin and run an IP if you really think I am blackbob, else, **** off.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286306)

Oh Jesus ****ing Christ. Every mechanic should know the basics of a hydraulic brake system, but it's something that escapes you.


and I have all data. And service manuals.
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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9286311)

There are ways around IP checks there, Bob.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286319)

There certainly are, and any Admin would be able to discern the difference between a real IP, and a proxy.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286323)

This just boggles my brain, I'd think I'm the stupid one but there are just too many on this forum that agree with me that this statement is completely inaccurate.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286314)

So now we have it. You only the know the basics, where as I know to the absolute degree, the ins and outs of the system because I went to school for it.

You also mentioned basics because that is the truth. You are not an ASE certified Master Tech, you are a basic greasemonkey at some backwoods mom and pop shop. Glad we can at least admit to what we are now.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9286327)

He's right. And Honestly I think exoter has better grammar and punctuation than black bob.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286314)

So now we have it. You only the know the basics, where as I know to the absolute degree, the ins and outs of the system because I went to school for it.

You also mentioned basics because that is the truth. You are not an ASE certified Master Tech, you are a basic greasemonkey at some backwoods mom and pop shop. Glad we can at least admit to what we are now.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286336)

I am an ase master tech. I admitted it freely in the other thread.


I'm sure dinny blues has seen the certs hanging on the wall lol. he doesn't come around here much anymore though. I see him in person more often
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9286347)

http://i.imgur.com/mSm0b.gif

Deep ball?

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9286343)

I have never seen someone so far off base argue so vehemently they are right.

Have you ever seen a master cylinder from a GM, Ford, or Chrysler vehicle mounted in the center of a car? No they are always on the driver side.

That being the case how do you have even length of line to the drivers and passenger side brakes?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9286347)

http://i.imgur.com/mSm0b.gif

Deep ball?

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286348)

And I mentioned the basics because you can't even explain the basics correctly.

I understand completely how most brake systems work.

You on the other hand didn't even know how ford truck runs it's brake lines, or a dodge.


Millions of them out there.


I'm done with this conversation
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286349)

Really?

I've got ASE signs in my basement from craigslist.

Show me your personal certificate with your name on it, assuming someone here can vouch for your real name, and then show me your test and test scores, along with all verifications and retests.

Just because you say you are an ASE Master Tech, does not mean you are one. Anybody can claim it. I can claim to be the President of the United States until someone asks me for proof. You either prove it, or you don't.

Do you know how easy it is to tell a liar from a certified master tech?

When you ask them what series they took and what their pathway to certification was.

When people cannot answer that, I know their eyes are brown, if you catch my drift.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286365)

I'm telling you he has seen my personal cert. With my personal name on it.


I don't think any one is going to do what you are asking. Ever
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286362)

"How do you even length of line" is not a coherent sentence, please try again, or go back to the brake line thread and post it there.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286374)

And I'm telling you if he's seen an ASE cert, it isn't for Master Tech. Like I said in the brake line thread, if you actually have one in your name, it is probably for basics like AC, Brakes, or Suspension. Even then, it is probably long since expired.

Now you'll think to yourself "expired? What?" and then the pea sized backwoods redneck brain of yours will argue that you don't need to update your certifications, if you can even cognitively make that argument lol.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9286375)

Then how come when I accurately explained a vehicle's brake line and how they ran.

Then asked you how it could work that way you didn't know whatvehicle I was talking about?

Then I told you and you said, "that's what I was picturing"


Poser.

That's why I'm done
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9286343)

I have never seen someone so far off base argue so vehemently they are right.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286384)

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

You DID NOT accurately describe a god damned thing. And, as I explained, I envisioned ford because i predominantly work on fords...........my god you are stupid.