heh, i mainly concentrate on this one because he was one of the only 1st round QB's that CP actually passed on that turned out to be great. Most of the 1st round QB's during CP's regime we never had a chance to draft because we picked too high that particular year.

Might be the biggest no brainer of the decade. Absolutly

Thanks DV and Carl!!

Soren Petro certainly think so. I wonder if the Rodgers wins this game if he will finally announce his Chiefs to Packers fandom change.

Thanks Carl!

omg ... would you stop bumping this stupid ****ing thread.

Rodgers was drafted 24th so 23 teams could be asking themselves the same question. It happens every draft.

They took Derrick Johnson. A guy who was touted as the best defensive player in college football to fix our shitty defense.

They shouldn't get blamed for shit.

In hindsight, they should have drafted him. But it's not a regrettable decision to not draft Rodgers.

This.

To me, the more pertinent question is how the hell we hire and promte guys like Paul Hackett and Jimmy Raye to coordinate the offense, but let a guy like Mike McCarthy, who was on Marty's staff in the early 90s, move on to other teams?

Because McCarthy wanted to <gasp> throw the ball.

Actually he was on as late as 98 right? Wasnt he just a TE coach with us? He probably wasnt ready at the time.

Good ol boy network.

He spent three years as the Chiefs QB coach, from 95 to 98.

He was an offensive quality control coach before that for a season.

Ah...ok.....well, he got decent production out of Gannon, Grbac and Bono (Regular Season), and probably should get alot of credit for reviving Gannons career.

Cassel is better than Rodgers. Rodgers just has better weapons.

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I'm afraid he's serious

I am really tired of this thread.

Its called sarcasm,dummy.

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It's depressing to read this thread title all the damn time.

we got tjax and matt. we're set.

**** this.


Herm Edwards would have completely ruined Elway, much less Rogers. Rogers would have ended up playing in the Arena League if he had to start his career under that kind of coaching and offensive philosophy.

No.

QB's are the debil.

Offensive line, especially left tackle, is the key to championships.

Brodie Croyle's still in the NFL

I hope luv is talking about Chris Palmer

I thought Chris Palmer was the Chiefs new OC?

:rolleyes:

We get Brady in 2014 and then we pick up Aaron Rodgers in 2020, then Sanchez in 2023.

If we pick up Brady, I'll probably just start following the ****ing CFL.

Hell no!

Now quit standing around, and go get me a another 4-3 lineman in the first that will be obsolete faster than a "Le Car".

Not really. I mean, he probably shows up on the Chiefs roster until the strike but he's going home to sweet Alabama.

ROFL That's where Pioli and I part company for the duration.

haha

Unfortunatly, this will probably happen.....

In light of DJ's recent play the last 2 seasons, has anyone changed their opinion on this?

Arguably the best QB in the league vs an ILB.

Hmmmmm.

Decisions.

No matter what, in hindsight, anyone with a brain will always pick Rodgers.

Seriously?

DJ is awesome, and I love having him on the team, but anybody who would rather have him than Aaron Rodgers is absolutely insane.

heh

The Titans should have taken him instead of Pac Man Jones, then this thread would never exist. I wonder how that would effect the space time continuum?

What a lame ****ing bump. DJ playing his ass off tearing shit up and this still has to come up?

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wow, it just never gets old.

But then we might have drafted Pac Man.

I ****ing love DJ but I would draft Aaron Rodgers a million times over.

That's not a knock on DJ, a stud QB is that important.

At the time of the draft, DJ was the absolute right pick
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Why? DJ didnt exactly have an immediate impact as far as win totals go. Drafting Rodgers, he could have sat behind Trent Green for a few years and learned.

DJ was said to be one of the best line backer prospects ever
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that first round sucked. DJ may be the 2nd best player drafted. Either him or Demarcus Ware.

The Chiefs had the least talented defense in the league at the time.

And that's part of why the drafting was shitty. We were always looking at the now instead of to the future, and taking guys based solely on need instead of the best player available.

I don't think you'll ever see a potential 1st overall pick at QB fall that far again. Teams realize how important a franchise QB is. Look at the last few drafts, more and more QB's are going early.

Until we get a franchise QB of our own, this thread will probably continue to get bumped here and there.

Derrick Johnson has more interceptions than Aaron Rodgers.

...oh wait...

Rodgers was not an amazing prospect.

Ouch, it wasnt just the Chiefs that blew this pick......The VIkings way blew it. :facepalm:




Every team that passed on Rodgers in the draft -- Miami, for Ronnie Brown, Minnesota (Troy Williamson), Washington (Carlos Rogers), Minnesota again (Erasmus James), Jacksonville (Matt Jones), and, just one pick before Green Bay, Oakland (Fabian Washington) -- has to be retching right now.

Projecting Rodgers' full season, with an asterisk next to what would be league records: .725* completion percentage, 5,238* passing yards, 48 touchdowns, 6 interceptions; 129.1* passer rating.

Minnesota twice? Fabian Washington? That has to hurt.



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1d2GOUNMw

I think at the time, DJ was the right pick. Based on what he was projected to be and our needs, you can't say drafting him was flawed logic.

Since then the NFL has changed and it's really only about the QB now. (which I think makes the game more boring but what can you do)

So yeah in hindsight or going forward, I'll always lean towards take a shot on a QB. Yeah, now I wish they would have taken Rogers obviously.

Yes because the NFL was never about the QB until only 5 or 6 years ago. ROFL
Signed, the 1990's Chiefs

Wasn't Rodgers being projected by some as the #1 pick?

With Hindsight, of course.

Thats not to say anything bad about DJ, he has developed into a STUD player......Its just that Rodgers is a STUD QB , and looks like he will be in that elite beast mode for 10 years.

Don't get me wrong. The QB has always been the most important position on the field for a long time but there were other ways to win a SB.

Take the Bucs in 2003 as an example. So yes, I'd say the change is about as recent as 5-6 years ago.

I don't know what you're looking for people to say with posing this very easy question. Yes we all wish they would have taken Aaron Rogers who is now the game's best QB. Obviously.

Are you seriously questioning that Derrick might be better than Ware? I hope not.


Oh and I haven't posted in this massive thread yet, but I'd take Aaron Rodgers every time if we could go back and do that draft again. He's the best QB in the NFL.

I love revisionist history.

Would I love to have Rodgers now? Absolutely. Although, he probably isn't the same QB for the Chiefs that he is for Green Bay. He had a few years to sit and the Packers worked on his mechanics relentlessly. He has a different release than when he came out of college.

Chiefs had Trent Green go down the following year, so Rodgers may just have been another Jim Tedford QB bust.

Oh, and that reminds me why he slid as far as he did. Rodgers was the fifth QB coached by Tedford to go in the first round. He is the ONLY one that has been elite in the NFL. The second best QB coached by Tedford? Dilfer. Oh, and add in guys like Boller, Akili Smith and Joey Harrington. Oooh.... some, great NFL pedigrees there, huh?

So, looking back, I am still not sure I would want Rodgers only because I don't know that we have had the consistency on the coaching staff that helped him develope into an elite player. This guy wasn't NFL ready coming out and was a project.

Well, with the new rookie salary cap rules and slotting, I agree. There is much less of a risk to take a QB early. If it fails, it won't set the franchise back years like it used to.

But, a mere two years after Rodgers, Quinn dropped. He was also a 'possible' #1 pick. The reality is that under the old rules, it was most often better to draft a guy with a higher floor than a higher ceiling if you had any doubt at all.

I am very happy for the new rookie wage scale and slotting system, becuase I think it will make for better drafts overall.

totally, its like when we drafted tyson jackson. ANY team in our position would have done the same exact thing. jackson was THE next sure thing. NOBODY could have known he might be a bust at the time.

Not sure I agree with that. I didn't love the pick at the time.

He has actually improved a good bit this year. Not enough to justify where he was drafted, but at least a solid starter.

youre just a dumb ****ing mark sanchez lover and not a real fan then i guess...

this thread is completely stupid.

If someone, anyone, legitimately wanted Rodgers before, during, or within 2 years of the 2005 draft, lets see the proof. Chiefs fans were pretty much cuming in their pants after DJ fell to us.

Pretty much this.

I flipped out when they took DJ.

Okay, I don't pay enough attention to who posts what.... so this 'may' be sarcasm....if so, bravo.

If not, then you should know that I don't want Sanchez anymore than I want to wreck my car.

I would have been fine with Stafford or Freeman. Freeman is a project, but has more upside than Sanchez.

Id have to find the 05 draft thread, and I'm not sure I ever posted it but when Rodgers fell, I did want us to take him. He was pretty well thought of that year. It's not like he was a Tom Brady afterthought type. Regardless, at least the chiefs didn't blow the pick like the vikes and raiders did.
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1 San Francisco 49ers Alex Smith QB Utah
2 Miami Dolphins Ronnie Brown RB Auburn
3 Cleveland Browns Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
4 Chicago Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas
5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
6 Tennessee Titans Pacman Jones CB West Virginia
7 Minnesota Vikings Troy Williamson WR South Carolina
8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB Miami (Fla.)
9 Washington Redskins Carlos Rogers DB Auburn
10 Detroit Lions Mike Williams WR USC
11 Dallas Cowboys DeMarcus Ware OLB Troy State
12 San Diego Chargers Shawne "roidman" Merriman OLB Maryland
13 New Orleans Saints Jammal Brown T Oklahoma
14 Carolina Panthers Thomas Davis DB Georgia
15 Kansas City Chiefs Derrick Johnson OLB Texas
16 Houston Texans Travis Johnson DT Florida State
17 Cincinnati Bengals David Pollack LB Georgia
18 Minnesota Vikings Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
19 St. Louis Rams Alex Barron T Florida State
20 Dallas Cowboys Marcus Spears DE Louisiana State
21 Jacksonville Jaguars Matt Jones WR Arkansas
22 Baltimore Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
23 Oakland Raiders Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
24 Green Bay Packers Aaron Rodgers QB California
25 Washington Redskins Jason Campbell QB Auburn
26 Seattle Seahawks Chris Spencer C Mississippi
27 Atlanta Falcons Roddy White WR Alabama-Birmingham
28 San Diego Chargers Luis Castillo DE Northwestern
29 Indianapolis Colts Marlin Jackson DB Michigan
30 Pittsburgh Steelers Heath Miller TE Virginia
31 Philadelphia Eagles Mike Patterson DT USC
32 New England Patriots Logan Mankins G Fresno State


While the pessimists may lament not taking the best player in the draft, we could have done much worse.

Good God the top 10 sucked.

That whole first round was down compared to other years. How many consistent pro-bowl/HOF level guys were picked?

DeMarcus Ware, Aaron Rodgers, and Roddy White were the clear winners, while DJ, Logan Mankins, Heath Miller, Luis Castillo, Carlos Rogers, and Cedric Benson make up the 2nd tier, and some of those guys weren't worth the pick that got 'em.

Bump

One last time. :)

I just took a shit

Do you still feel the same way?

Was this a real question?

20/20?

YUP! :D

Everyone should have drafted Aaron Rodgers over everyone.

Well, isn't this an interesting bump.

I wanted Rodgers then and I would gladly give up what DJ has done for us if we could go back and redraft. I love DJ but QB is the more important position.

Don't know what Rodgers ever did to you guys to curse him so.