Move Albert to RT would be my guess.

Not at RT. Right now we have Albert, who is a solid LT, and nothing at RT. Albert showed versatility in college, playing multiple positions along the OL effectively.

On an unrelated note, I bought a new BMW last year for $45,000. I need to get a pickup truck, and I think that I can probably pick one up for about $15,000. Instead, though, I think that I will buy another BMW for $50,000. Then, I will take my old BMW and cut the roof of of it. That way I can have a BMW and a makeshift pickup truck for $95,000 instead of a BMW and a good pickup truck for $60,000.

Probably didnt hurt that they wanted to dump the $15 million MC was making.

Can we call Cassell, MC Bomber or something? No more wobble launcher!

would you be furious if your team lost an executive of the year and his former partner hooked up his friend with a starter kit for an AFC team for $0.60 on the $1?

Hell yeah.

I'm not even projecting whether I think this will be a success or an epic fail...but right now, this is a total, unbelievable steal...something that I refuse to believe until I see it.

I mean look at the history of traded QBs.

Well, Matt Cassel is QB of the Kansas City Chiefs now. Let's all get behind him.

Please Elaborate -I cannot think of a deal like this???? A Veteran Leader on Defense and a Young QB That got progressively better in his first NFL season of be ing a starter?????

They could actually let him play out under that contract to see how he does before giving him big dollars (but probably won't).

Heh, that makes the deal worth it all on its own.

Last one we traded for (Green) worked out pretty well.

NFLN is live right now!

That's pretty much where I'm at, too. While I'm not a big Cassel fan, getting him and Vrabel for a 2nd (which I still doubt) seems like really good value, and much less than I would have anticipated for any Cassel trade...

You don't have to fill the RT position with any permutation involving a #3 draft pick. My preference obviously is to leave Albert where he is.

I'm not going to convince anyone who doesn't want to be convinced.

If we paid a high second for him, it's because no one else thought he was worth anything higher.

We will live to regret passing on these two quarterbacks for a guy with mediocre talent who was in a perfect situation.

That's all I'll say.

Did it?

Ha!

Rausch: "Yeah, Brady? Hi. Uh, here's the deal...um...I hear you need a Tanya Harding for some payback...uh...no. No, I....hello?"

i would bet the contract is in place

How many Super Bowls did we win or get to?

Now saying deal done.

If the FO/coaching staff agrees, then the pick will not be Monroe.

We'll grab DL, LB, or WR with the #3 overall

Clearly much better than staying at 12 and taking Drew Brees, as had been rumored.

Not to interrupt, but you may want to ease back on the throttle somewhat, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins. It sounds as though you're implying that Pioli and Haley don't know how to evaluate quarterbacks. Nothing, obviously, could be further from the truth.

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omg STFU...

there is no difference between a 6th round pick and a 7th round pick...or an undrafted guy....who gives a shit about what round someone was picked in...it's amazing a guy who never started in college was even drafted in the first place...

You're a ****ing tool.

Favre, Hasselbeck, Steve Young, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson...

It's been done before...

I think I just shit myself!

Peter King reports that the Chiefs send their 2nd round pick only. Is there any one that doesn't like the fact we picked up Mike Vrabel (proven LB leadership) and Matt Cassel (potential solid starting QB) for only a 2nd round pick? That is a helluva steal in my opinion.

Geez, not this shit again. How many 7th rounders were given an opportunity to start?

You don't know the answer to this question because we DON"T KNOW how seventh rounders would fare if they had opportunities to start. WE DON'T KNOW.

#1 offense in the league, 4300+ passing yards, worst defense in the league.

Gee, wonder which of those things kept us from winning a superbowl? :hmmm:

Cassel's arm stength isn't all that much better than Huard's.

Randy Moss was quoted as saying he'll be glad when Brady comes back, because he hasn't been used as effectively because Cassel couldn't make all the throws.

Don't have a link.
Just something I heard on ESPN Radio last week.

Oh yeah, don't you remember that one home playoff game? That was great.

That is just effing crazy.

We have to have surrendered a conditional or two... or maybe a player or two as well.

I don't see that as even being an option. If they do that, and he has a big year, they could stand to lose him after just one season. If this deal goes through, I have to think that KC will sign him to a longer term contract...

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I can't believe the Pats would give both of those guys up for just a single pick.

can you link me to this rumor? I believe you, I just want to read something on that...because if that really is the case I guess we certainly did make a mistake in the Green trade.

Let's set aside the Vrabel part of the trade. That's not really a significant acquisition in the long term. The Chiefs traded for Trent Green, they gave up a lot for him. They got what, 4 good years out of him, if that? That's not what I'm looking for. The last younger QB I can think of that was traded was Matt Schaub. Again, I don't think there is much of a good history for teams that traded for a QB. Perhaps others can think of better examples.

Bullshit there is go do the history on all of the winning Super Bowl teams turd. 60% of the Super Bowls were won by 1st round QB's. Of the 40% that werent half of that was Montana and Brady. Let that sink in.

Neither is Mark Sanchez's.

NFLN is also reporting it to be a second for both Cassel and Vrabel. Love it.

Tom Curran just confirmed it is only the 2nd rounder (35th overall)

IFthis is true, I'd be happy with it.

NFLN just stated the deal is for the 34th pick (Cheifs second round) for Vrabel and Cassel.

that's what they are talking about on NFL net - "why so little in return?"

Pats will clear $14.5 million for Cassel and close to $5 million for Vrabel

For Cassell and Vrabel.

Its on here somewhere, Petro saw Vermeil's draft sheet.

I'm pissed man! I'd rather have another Turk McBride!

i haven't read the thread or processed this yet

but let me say - as I was not for this - that getting him for a 2nd is palatable....assuming....of course...he isn't Scott Mitchell


Pioli rolls the dice....that's why we brought him in


here we go


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Considering we only gave up the 34th pick in the draft for him and never had a chance at Stafford anyway....well we aren't really banking our entire future here.

This is actually much more like the time when the Chiefs traded a draft choice for Trent Green and reunited Green with Vermeil.

Vermeil knew Green. Pioli knows Cassel.

WOW...the 34th pick for BOTH of them? Even better!

That may be. Wha tI am saying is though is for the Chiefs this is one of the better trades we have made in a long time. We traded a 2nd for Trent Green Right? We traded a pick for Edwards didn't we? And didn't we trade a pick for DV?

I could be wrong...but it seems like we got 2 starters, 1 proven 1 with potential, for 1 pick. That is pretty darn good. And we kept our #3.

Which we will trade down the #3 and get a 2nd round pick before all is said and done.

10-5 as a starter,

63.4%

3,693 yards last year

21 td, 11 INT

Some people on this board such douchebags. I swear! Picking up Cassel for a high 2nd and a conditional next year is incredibly smart. You get a guy who has proven he can play at this level...nobody knows anything about the two top QBs in the draft yet, do they? You get Vrabel who is a proven leader and a guy who will make people around him better. Pioli knows Cassel and he knows EXACTLY what he just traded for. Before anybody else acts like Santa just passed them up again this year, why don't you think before you type. Or better yet, if you're convinced this is a bad deal, why don't you come up with an actual REASON why it is.

He can't.

He's an immobile Tyler Thigpen; and I think Tyler Thigpen sucks.

This sucks.

fmylife

thats amazing and also said that if next year goes uncapped cassell would be a rfa so he's tied up for at least 2 years we have time to get a contract if ones not in place

Well Brees was considered a bust for the Chargers...so much so they drafted Rivers...who knows how he would have panned out for the Chiefs...

Favre and Steve Young and not a helluva' lot since...

Damn. Did you hit pause on the tivo?

I would have preferred that at the time, and especially now with hindsight.

Different scenario: Brees left Purdue after a full collegiate career where he set Big X passing records galore. The fact that he slipped into the second round is incredible.

Stafford, Sanchez, Davis <> Brees. The only potential exception may be Davis; but he's targeted in the second or third round.

So are you upset that we gave up our second round pick & probably cannot now draft Davis?

it is crazy to see the team TAKING CHANCES! making bold moves! actually taking risks trying to get better!

Cassel is a pretty mobile QB...

Welcome to Kansas City Matt.

http://ianonsports.files.wordpress.c...att-cassel.jpg

Stated next year is uncapped and would pay him 110% to stay the next year.

News up on espnnews...

Pasquarelli....nothing big

Mike smith...Brady healthy...Other teams made a hard push. Pioli wanted him. Says KC has no long term deal in place yet and Cassel still under 14mil 1 year deal...

a 2 for him AND vrabel sounds ok. even more palatable, glad youre not on the ledge:D

i am a very fast typer!

That would have been horrible!

If we could find some idiots to have traded a 4th for Donnie Edwards and Thigpen who would you think got the better deal?...

when the talking can has a positive spin on something, you know you're getting a good deal

Steve Bono.



I kid...I kid...

Ironic how we knocked Brady out in the first game, only to see Cassel's abilities show cased for the rest of the season...and then we trade for him. Funny how things work out sometimes.

Did Green play defense? Because THAT is the reason the best offense in the league had no SB wins.

good luck with that.



"we didn't draft him at #3, no way is he our franchise qb, stupid true fan n00b." draftubators.

Scott is the man! If we still have our 1st pick he is a freaklng stud! A young QB that has a year under his belt as a starter. Good job!

I can only say that I'm happy we didn't give up the farm to bring these guys in.

I don't like the deal because I don't believe that Matt GrCassel is all that good.

well like I said...Brees had a very rough start to his career in San Diego...they drafted a QB #1 overall a few years later...so who knows how he would have turned out in KC.

What?

Ha, that is an interesting point. Weird.

oh sweet! I was just sitting here hoping someone would come in and make a reeruned automotive analogy! Thanks!