I am a tourist then.

agree to disagree.

IMHO, JS's Burnt Ends/Cubed brisket with chessy corn and beans is the best single plate of BBQ on the Planet. :harumph:

But if you want to talk the best BBQ from the total menu and after my recent visit......I'll listen to arguments for OK Joe's.

I've had both numerous times. For my taste, JS>OKJ's. By far.

I love BBQ threads and opinions, there's just no way to really lose (unless you end up having to try that nothing-but-shit BBQ they have in TexAss [heavy on the Ass!!!])... I know when I get back from Sandy Eggo this coming Friday, I'm going to try to swing WAY OUT OF MY WAY and stop by Oklahoma Joe's...

I have an old video starring Jeff Stehney about cooking Q. It's interesting because it reveals secrets about how he does it. That being said, I'm sure he had to modify what he did in competitions to satisfy his customers at OK Joe's.

Nope!

you can't negate "my taste".......

That's what she said!

LMAO:pLMAO

Some places might have a sig item (beans at JS) that is better than the same thing at Joes, but Joes does everything great. Their pulled pork/sausage/brisket/ribs are better than anyone elses.

I'm sure if you print this thread and show them at the register, they'll charge you the same amount "irregardless" (my new favorite non-word!!!) of your saying such nice things...

And I'm not sure I'd agree that beans or fries are ever a good reason to pick a BBQ place as the "best" BBQ.. Now, if we ever have a best "beans" or "fries" or "bathroom" or "girl at the register" thread (feel free to start onbe!!), go for it, tells us about their beans... BBQ is about the meat, not the fluff. If not, let argue who has softer napkins...

Huh? You can always tell a great BBQ restaurant by their beans. It's BBQ 101. It's integral to the meat.

Sorry, I skip the beans, and the fries (well I do eat a few), but except for the bacon in the beans, or maybe the burnt ends, I'm not really interested.

So, you just order meat?

Yes, ususally. If I'm with the family, they order enough of the other junk to give me a taste, but I'm usually unimpressed. Now the Gates fries are good, but thay're like the last thing I need. Hey, even at the WH I replace the hash browns with tomatoes... It's horrible, but I'd rather do that then have to medicate some day...

Plus, if the BBQ is good, it's not hard to skip the fillers...

Jack Stack is mediocre. Now, even bad barbecue is good barbecue, but Jack Stack is barbecue for people that eat with forks.

I have a long-standing problem with Jack Stack, mainly because of their "burnt ends." They're just not burnt ends.

Their beans are damn tasty, though.

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!

But the meat is what's going to make you medicate some day.

Not like fries.... Plus, it's not like I eat BBQ every night... Oh, that reminds me, I need to tend to the ribs!!! :)

Fries are worse than fatty meat? Where did you dream that up?

Here...

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=41828

Now show me a "fries are healthy" web site..

Where are fries mentioned in that link?

It's not, I provided a "brisket is healthy" page and I'm asking you to provide a "fries are healthy" thread. I'm not sold that red meat is "that" bad for you (in moderation). So skip the fries and eat the brisket... :thumb:

It's either that or you're going to be stuck with turkey burgers and veggies until you die of being bored and farting... :banghead:

I was surprised at the low quality of the beans at OK Joe's.

Along with the inverse of Jack's Stack beans with the rest of their bbq.

BB's Lawnside BBQ is completely terrible. Why the hell did three people vote for that shithole?

1. Oklahoma Joe's
2. Arthur Bryant's
3. L.C.'s

I'm Just gonna leave this right here:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...98031360_n.jpg

Where is that plate from?

Mine is pretty good.
And the price way better.

Meat needs more sauce and that better not be ketchup on those fries.

As I have lived in KC a while longer and tried more places I find there is a give and take between something being very good and very consistent.

AB's is my favorite place..but they simply are not always good. They are weak in the consistency department...but when it is on I love it.

I live right by OKJ's now and it is always good but I don't really see it that high above other places...at least as far as how popular it is these days except for their ribs. Their ribs are simply exceptional and no matter what you get OKJ is consistently quite good.

Zarda's isn't worthy of an honorable mention.

While Danny Edwards BBQ sauce isn't the best i will say they cook the best beef brisket i have ever tasted. Check it out.

Johnnys BBQ

I need to try Johnny's again. I got a sammich from them a while back, and it sucked. it was two pieces of plain white bread, and smothered in sauce. I like sauce, don't get me wrong, but the sauce turned the plain bread into a pink dough mess.

meat was decent though; although I was irritated about the bread so it was hard to enjoy the rest of it. I'll give it a shot again though.

National magazine says KC BBQ ranks behind Texas and Memphis.

http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/americ....html?page=all

You missed a pretty damn good one on the list up there (Not the Poll) Wabash in Excelsior Springs, MO

Edit...I just completely over looked it, my bad.

I like LC's. Love the big fries. Love the burnt ends and turkey sandwich. Love the sauce. The place is a shithole and the service is the most unfriendly I've probably ever had at an eating establishment, but it's good so I keep coming back. Even though I could get shot, I've been there dozens of times and haven't had any problems yet.

The only time I ate at Arthur Bryants was the one at the casino lol. It was utter shit. I can't judge off of that location though obviously. Gotta try the real thing next time.

LC's opened a restaurant in Olathe or Overland Park a long time ago. I believe it's gone now. It was awful. Gotta have that rundown burnt out black smoker that looks like it was a set piece in Nightmare On Elm Street. Just not the same without it.

yeah, we went up there to stay in the hotel and stumbled upon the Wabash. Damn good grub. Love their sauce.

I have lived in Excelsior my whole life up until 1 month ago and as far as I know, it has always been Wabash.

The scary thing about Wabash is they actually have gone down in quality and is still damn good...**** THIS THREAD it makes me miss home there is nothing for BBQ out here and I feel sacrilegious because of where I work (Famous Daves BTW) and it blows compared to my KC BBQ but it is better than nothing I guess....oh wait I own a smoker!

Yeah I know the feeling. The BBQ in Tulsa is dog shit compared to KC. I need to get up there QUICK lol.

nlm you both. Florida can't produce top grade BBQ. I'm in a BBQ wasteland. I don't understand their issue.

At least my cheater smoker can produce better tasting meat than I can buy for any amount of money around these parts.

Lol, Tulsa is pretty bad too. There's only one place I've tried down here that I've even considered eating more than once. It's a new place called Action Erection BBQ. Pretty good ribs. At least I'm closer to KC than you are though.

I know my KC BBQ and if it comes down to it I will just get me some hickory and a big ass brisket.

Texas = pretty close. Memphis = bullshit.

I think Gates gets a free pass as a de facto place for good BBQ.

I had tons of other great BBQ around town either by a home smoker/BBQer, or hole in the wall place.

Gates is severely overrated, IMO.

You should look for a place called Knotty Pine BBQ. I'm not sure if it's still there, but it's actually pretty damn good BBQ, at least it was back in the day.

Up til now I would agree with ya, but downtown Sarasota has a BBQ joint called Nancy's. The brisket it awesome and the beans are fine! Worth the trip for ya BRC. Hell, I'd meet ya there.

I would say it's the best in Fla. but that wouldn't really be saying much, would it?

What happened to Bucks BBQ in Wichita? It used to be pretty good, that was many years ago but its gone now. When I lived there it was always packed. It may have went downhill or the economy in Wichita might have severely hurt business.

Gates is best for burnt ends. That's it. But their burnt ends are awesome.

Sounds good!

It was a few different businesses before it was Wabash BBQ. I think that building has only housed the BBQ joint since 1995 or '96.

You sure 95 or 96? I graduated and left, but I visited my folks many times before they passed away and it seems much later that Wabash arrived? I only got to try it once myself years ago. Is the consensus that its pretty good?

It may be 97-98, come to think of it.

It used to be pretty damn good. I haven't had a good meal there in years, though. Their sauce still rules.

I've toured all over the states and they're crazy to rank KC behind anyone. All bias aside. You want some pure sacrilidge swill bbq, try that North Carolina chopped mustard crap....blech!

I'm in Branson now....nothin!

I should've visited when I was in town a couple months ago. Had been a few years since I'd been to the ES. Cool to see another former "mineral water" townie!

My first stop on anything related to culinary advice is US News and World Report. :rolleyes:

food and wine magazine says to invest in t bills.

ROFL

I just don't get the Carolina mustard BBQ. To each their own I guess. :hmmm:

Carolina sauce is usually more vinegar based. And its very good on a pulled pork sammich. But its apples and oranges comparing it to a traditional KC sauce.

I like just about any kind of BBQ, and I think most sauces are at least interesting and edible. I'm not huge on super sweet molasses sauces, and I actually prefer the yellow/vinegar style to them.

I like places that have multiple sauces to get different flavors to dip fries or bread in. My favorite sauces tend to have some spice to them, though.

K&M

...I am a bit biased though as I live within a couple of miles of it. :)

honestly, that is one of my favorites and I'm about 30 minutes or so away.

I'll go there over Gates any day. (and I'm about 5 minutes from Gates)

Has anyone tried The Rub barbecue in Olathe? They are close by where I work and opened a few months ago. I've eaten there twice and they put out some quality Q.

A lot of folks at my work talk it up, but most of them consider a crock pot full of lil smokies drowning in KC Masterpiece acceptable food day fare.

Plus, there's this.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=258482

From The Pitch.

http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/the-...nt?oid=2762918

:hmmm: thats quite the powerful endorsement.

I miss Fat Charlie's. :(

There is a new BBQ place that has entered into the KC market. Jon Russels BBQ. He has won the American Royal BBQ contest several times and decided to open his own restaurant. He's a buddy of Cosmic Pal. At last weeks game in tampa we had him ship us some BBQ for the tailgate.

The brisket was the best I've ever had anywhere. The sausage was right up there too. And remember we had our tailgate two days after it was shipped to us. It's a good assumption that its even better fresh.

Just a heads up to the KC BBQ fans.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8048/8...e8e6a91b_c.jpghttp://www.jonrussellsbbq.com/

Practically lived on Rosedale's as a student in the late 80's.

It was DaKCMan AP certified Awesome. :thumb:

Food on the website looks good. Will have to check it out the next time me and the mrs. have a chance to have lunch by ourselves.

"Hand-crafted micro smokehouse", that's kind of funny, but I'll definitely give it a try.