The sad thing is half the time we don't get along yet everyone thinks I'm super cool when I don't talk about football.......and you're probably not that far off.

That is.....twilight zone.

I wonder of Egoli is anything like Ecoli?

The Pioli thing is pretty stupid. He should be judged on the talent he acquires and nothing else.

I might let you mow my lawn, but I'm afraid that's as far as it goes.

I'll mow your lawn for cheaper then hootie

ROFL How about we drink beers and play bones while Hootie mows the lawn?

We better not get too drunk he'll wanna play hide the sasuage

Not to worry. If Hootie should get out of line, I'll demonstrate for you the finer techniques and proper implementation of the Sauto Discipline Stick:

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Wait, did you just say that you aspire to be a waiter in Chicago?

Trust me, I've seen you post on this website. Even if you get a sheepskin with your name on it from whatever should-be-non-accredited university that's actually dumb enough to keep you on their rolls, you have no college education whatsoever.

That one's gonna' leave a mark.:D

This thread has about three tangents of awesome all going at once. Whitlock's douchebaggery symposium, Hootie's lynch mob and my sex life.

Losing is arguably more fun than winning around here.

See Hootie, you like to talk about how you're a sociopath, how you don't care about anything, how nothing offends you, how you aren't ashamed of anything, and yet as soon as you start talking about "Em-Dawg" on here, or whatever that cum-dumpster's name was, and people on CP facebook her, you instantly flip out and try to get people to not talk about her or to edit your posts...and yet you aren't "ashamed".

Later on, you change your user name. Why? Because you claim that people in your family read the site and you don't want them to her stories of your debauchery. Yet you aren't "ashamed" of anything you do.

You're a ****ing poser. Plain and simple. There's no other way to put it. The only thing I'm certain of is that you're a sociopath, because only a psychopath would brag about raping a girl that is too drunk to resist, or buying drugs off of a roommate.

If you had all the "potential" that you claim you do, you wouldn't be a 24 year old waiter, still without a degree, at some shit restaurant trying to score ass from the 22 year old hostess with a tramp stamp and untreated chlamydia who's trying to make enough money working split shifts to cover the costs of her last abortion (her third, her ex-bf's second).

Let's be patently honest about something: You are bragging about what you do for a living when you perform the same job that immigrants who can't speak ****ing English do at nearly every Mexican restaraunt in the United States. And the sad thing is, they probably do it better than you. Yet you have "potential".

No, you're just a ****ing loser with delusions of grandeur, latent homosexual tendencies, an XBox and a drinking/drug problem.

LOL

Did that Em-Dawg chocolate finger thing blow up in his face?

That is fine CP detective work. Almost as good as calling my grandpappy.

Ya!

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Ok that Hamas post just made me laugh so ****ing hard.

I totally, 100% agree. Like, 100%.

But...you...you do. I know you do.

And where has it gotten you?

ROFL

I'll take my people skills over your intellectual skills any day of the week.

Why?

He's right.

I have, and will continue to learn NOTHING in class...I don't pay attention and I google my way to get by...I don't read...I don't try...I find it boring and useless...but society says...have a degree, or don't get a job (more or less)...

My degree will be my fall back plan if I don't succeed in what I want to do...

Well you made that all sound a lot worse than it really is...

I don't do anything for a living right now...my successful parents pay my tuition and my rent...I simply have a part time job to support my drinking tendencies. Sue me.

I don't think of my job as a job...I think of it as a social networking tool, much like ChiefsPlanet...do you know how many amazing things I've learned from working at a restaurant? How many friends I've made? Like...life long friends?

And yes...I find studying/all of my classes so amazingly boring that the only way I can REALLY give my A effort on an assignment is by buying some Ritalin now and then to help me out...as I have probably the most extreme case of ADHD that any adult should ever have and not be medicated for...

If that is "buying" drugs, then color me a drug addict...since I don't do any other drugs, let alone smoke cigarettes.

And in terms of drinking...I only have time to go out on Wednesday's and Friday's now...it's awful. I have no fun anymore...but hey, I have to grow up someday.

I know you're a smart guy...that's obvious. But lets chat in 10 years to see who is happier...because I have a feeling, behind your pseudo-badass schtick, you're a pretty insecure/unhappy dude.

But you can deflect that all on me by over-exaggerating every little thread I've ever made on this site to get a few laughs from the other immature idiots on this site like myself.

I mean...you were the guy who through a drink at a...girl. Even I wouldn't stoop that low LMAO

That's it then. This thread is going to fire off like a rocket from this point forward.

Hamas landed the opening punch and Hootie, though momentarily dazed, swung right back with a vicious hook.

DING DING DING!

His career wouldn't be over because he fabricated a dinner story about Pioli and Haley.

I'm pretty shocked that you actually believe the shit Whitlock writes. He's had an agenda from early on and he's continued it.

This.

I don't think he's a liar. I just think he overblows the truth. Whitlock is a sensationalist. End of story.

Still, everytime I read Egoli, I want to punch a kitten. That is so f ucking stupid and he is so f ucking insistent on making it stick. Oh my God I hate it.

:crybaby::

Its worth mentioning that Bill Maas was also all over Croyles infant balls after the Baltimore game, saying that there was no way Cassel would start Raider game due to Croyles performance in Balt. Also, Pioli talked in early interviews when he was hired here how he and Billichick didn't always see eye to eye on decisions concerning the team but work together professionally to succeed.

This is text book sensationalism that fans in every market feed off of and a classic example of why the media gets treated the way they do by this organization.

He should just leave it out all together, as it comes across very juvenile. If he is trying to be credible, the nicknames totally undermine that effort.

I get the impression the honeymoon is over between Pioli and jwhit.

I was in the same place, and the reality is that I am still pissed that we didn't draft Sanchez.

However, regardless of the argument that Cassel was Brady's backup, and that he did have one year starting in the NFL, the fact remains that he is still learning and will make "rookie" mistakes.

QBs don't really start to fully understand the speed of the game and their responsibilities until they've started a 20-25 games.

It's just the nature of the position.

That is one of the reasons that I was pissed that we traded for him.
He's going to be close to 29 before he really starts to get it, and before we really find out what he is.

All that said, that pass in the flat to Savage at the end of the first half was inexcusable stupidity, even for an inexperienced QB.

Wow...Whitlock's vagina must really hurt over his lack of access. It seems after unsuccessfully demonizing both Haley and Pioli, he's now trying to invent a wedge between the two? :deevee: That's right...now you're on "Haley's side" of this imagined rift between the two. What a reach.

What's more pathetic? Herm "playing to win" or Whitlock actually believing that this "Egoli" nickname is going to catch on? Seriously. Who else is using this nickname? Nobody. Because it is stupid and childish and smacks of hurt feelings.

I haven't seen mecca's answer yet, but I would have.

I haven't read any farther than this, but this is exactly why I think these claims by Whitlock have some merit, especially when you hear the words that came directly from Haley's mouth on Tuesday.

mecca has always been a Sanchez guy, even before he declared.

As would I.

The guy has it. I know it's early, but he's going to be a special player in this league.

While I don't hate Cassel, watching Sanchez play this way for the Jets makes me nauscious.

We should have drafted him, and either held him ransom for the highest bidder or kept him and had Cassel on the restricted tender until we got a better picture of him. That said, hindsight is really nice.

ryan leaf was 2-0.... lets take it easy.

I love how he goes on a riff about how egotistical Pioli is ... then immediately runs off a laundry list of his own awesomeness in the next paragraph. Whatever.

I think kcunited(?) nailed it.

Whitlock took an off the cuff comment from Haley and sensationalized it, and took a media dinnner and portrayed the interaction in the worst light possible.

I have no doubt that Pioli has an ego, and also don't doubt that he sometimes interrupted Haley when talking, but I highly doubt that it was as glaringly rude and obnoxious as Whitlock portrayed.

I also think that Haley does probably like Brodie's physical gifts better than Cassel's, and should Cassel not progress and begin to play at a higher level, he wuld certainly pull him in favor of Croyle.

But Whitlocok has taken Haley's honest answer and twisted to mean more than what it is.

Haley showed his courage, now it's your turn whitlock.

show all of us some courage...








and kill yourself.

Treat the media like they're worth something and Whitlock will write great things about you.

Treat the media like what they are, and that's just level above prostitution, and Whitlock will write up some bullshit about you.

I'm going to go ahead and say it, because it's really been gnawing at me since Pioli was hired.

While I give Clark Hunt credit for going out and bringing in the most sought after GM candidate over the last 3 or 4 years, a guy that has turned down opportunities elsewhere, he wasn't the guy I wanted to see hired.

As a result, I can't help but wonder if we would be better if we had brought in Eric DeCosta (the guy I was really hoping that Hunt would give serious condsideration to), Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez, and Rey Maulauga, as opposed to Pioli, Haley, Cassel and Vrabel.

I like what Haley's doing, and think in time this team will produce.

But I can't help think, "What if".

I really love the defensive aggressiveness that Ryan plays with.

Thanks for ruining my day.

On other thing that should be mentioned, one of the things that many of us had concerns with Cassel with is that he really didn't play well under center last season.

He, like Thigpen, only really began to play well when the Pats went to the spread on about 60-65% of their plays.

So even with his "experience", he is still learning, and while he didn't play great, he did show he has made some improvement is learning to play under center.

I am here to serve.

Even Gretz concedes that Haley started the seeds of a QB controversy. It's not just Whitlock.

I saw the a snippet of the AP story on CBS Sports with the title, "Cassel to start, but on a leash" well before Whitlock or anyone else commented on it.

Hell, it's gone national now.

To be fair, Haley didn't START anything. This was being talked about nationally at HALFTIME of the Baltimore game.

That being said, Haley certainly hasn't done anything to prevent those seeds from sprouting. He could have squashed it instantly, but he didn't.

The only move I question so far is Cassel. As I've been hoping that the chiefs would draft a QB since Montana was behind center and stick with him for 3 years hell or high water before making a decision on whether to stick or move on.

Piolli wasn't the only one drooling over Cassel though and one game isn't even remotely close to fair to judge him on.

No one is more disappointed than me we didn't draft and develop - again - but let's not get ready to break out the torches and pitchforks just yet. It's going to be at least three years before we know what's going to come out of these guys.

Wow.....I wanna cry.

Well, Whitlock has successfully stirred the shit pot with another lousy article. It's amazing how little it takes to get the usual suspects trolling along behind his arguments.

That's the 1st article Whitlock has written worth reading in 3 months. I think he's gotten even more cynical (if that's possible). At one time, there was balance in KC; Gretz was the "Yes" man, Posnaski wrote the feel good stories, and Whitlock would be the contrarian. Now, Posnaski is gone and even Gretz is becoming doom and gloom. Guess Whitlock has to turn up the shock to remain relevant.

2000 Wizards win MLS cup.

Another angle to take from all this: Whitlock's job is at stake with Pioli not giving him inside access.

How far would you be willing to go and how much shit would you be willing to stir to keep your lively hood? I'd be willing to bet one of your guys testicles that's a factor here as well.

He essentially sewed the seeds because he remained true to his mantra, the one he has consistently followed since he took this job, that no one's job is safe if they don't perform.

Anything less from Haley is his discussion of Cassel would have been every bit as controversial.

No ****ing way.

The Kansas City Star has a sportswriter that's constantly on the national stage. Why would they fire him because he couldn't penetrate the new Arrowhead regime in the first 9 months?

That's as ridiculous as firing Haley after game two.

No it wouldn't. QB is always different.

I still can't and won't believe this "sacred cow" bullshit until Niswanger and Goff are replaced.

How they remain on the team (let alone as starters) is beyond my ability to comprehend.

It would be quite a precedent. It's not like he's ever been fired before.

You don't think not having the access to Chiefs that Whitlock used to under Carl Peterson makes him more expendable at The Star and frustrates him into writing these articles?

My "What if?" is more directed at the way in which Ryan is calling plays for that defense.

He is taking names and asking questions later.

You may beat him, but he's going to go down swinging.

Add the fact that Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard both siged with the Jets primarily because of Ryan.

But it starts at the top.

If we had hired Eric DeCosta, this offseason would have been significantly different.

If Whitlock were to be fired by the KC Star for his coverage or non-coverage of the Chiefs, he'd be out of a job for about 60 seconds.

The guy has gone national and has been national for years.

The Star will never replace a guy like that (or Posnanski for that matter).

Kent Babb?

LMAO

Coming from someone that thinks Whitlock is as overrated as they come in the field of journalism, I still have to say no.

Is he pissed they are making his job more difficult?

No doubt.

Is he making shit up and publishing it to "get back" at them for it?

**** no. That's ridiculous.

I don't think he's at risk of being fired. But he does go though jobs like plates of ribs.

I'm not sure how much longer the Star's going to exist, but that's another thread.

One question for me has always been why Whitlock is national. What does he really do that makes him notable? He was never particularly good on the radio, he's not particularly notable as a writer. He's just sort of...there. Probably one of those "'who you know' as opposed to 'what you know'" situations.

In a stable QB situation, then yes it is different.

This, however, is not a stable situation.

And even if it were different, do you really believe that Whitlock, with his agenda to forward, wouldn't have written an article lambasting Haley for going with Cassel and telling us it's all about the contract, even though Croyle is the better QB?

I'm not saying that Croyle is the better QB, because I happen to agree with Hootie, that Croyle plays tentative and scared.

I'm saying that's how Whitlock would paint it.

If Whitlock is such a great national talent and didn't need KC Star why didn't he leave for greener pastures?

I don't think he's making shit up.

I do, however, think he is generuosly embellishing.

So we've come full circle.

Is Croyle "Haley's guy" and is Cassel "Pioli's guy"?

Or is he just making this up?

Clearly.

I also think if there was more to this 'ego' business, there'd be a whole mob of stories about it, not just a lone torch-wielding Whitlock.

I said a while back I think that he's just locked into an adversarial role with whoever the KC GM is; I don't think he knows how to do anything else. The words 'one-trick pony' come to mind.

For many people, it's a lot more fun to be a big fish in a little pond as opposed to the alternative.

Exactly how I feel.

Anybody remember this article after the first pre-season game...

Seeds have been planted for a QB controversy
JASON WHITLOCK COMMENTARY


Haley shows some courage Haley’s coaching performance was embarrassing Something’s the matter with Kansas Seeing Reesing will be awkward after falling for Blaine Hard to know what to think after weird Chiefs game Haley and Pioli talk tough; Ravens play too tough Missouri’s Gabbert is the new QB love of my life MU’s Gabbert worth gushing over These quarterbacks are terrible Haley’s timing off on firing Chiefs’ Thigpen shows he’s no Gannon Early fame, pressure can crush young athletes like Beasley Vikings using Favre to play political football Shoddy offensive line will hold Chiefs back Seeds have been planted for a QB controversy Haley’s punishment of Bowe hurts Chiefs instead In sports, image is everything There’s no collusion against Michael Vick Thomas' Hall of Fame enshrinement is our Lombardi Trophy Chiefs may find turning wrong to right is hard thing to do Goodell shouldn’t punish Vick Hopes of miracle finish for Tom get Turnburied A Watson win could hurt golf’s credibility Cassel has Moss to thank for his good fortune Black athletes shouldn’t be excused for racial hypocrisy Brown may be the Chiefs' Rodney Harrison Blame the NCAA and NBA for Henry-KU drama Michael Jackson’s music touched us all K-State’s golden era tarnished by financial audit Jackson proves he is a championship coach You don’t need a legitimate backup to manufacture a quarterback controversy.

What you need is an overpriced starter, a reckless head coach, a frustrated fan base and bored, ratings-starved journalists and broadcasters.

Without question, the necessary ingredients are in play in Kansas City.

OK, Matt Cassel, The Sixty Million Dollar Man, is the Chiefs’ unquestioned starting quarterback. First-time head coach Todd Haley might be disappointed by Cassel’s training-camp play, but Cassel and his bionic contract will take the opening snap on opening day.

Brodie Croyle is not going to beat out The Sixty Million Dollar Man. Haley’s lip-flapping about all positions being competitive is just that — meaningless lip-flapping.

That does not mean we won’t be treated to a quarterback controversy.

The seeds have been planted, and they can take root tonight when the Chiefs take on the Minnesota Vikings in KC’s second preseason game.

Thanks to Haley’s immature decision to play Kansas City’s best offensive player, receiver Dwayne Bowe, with the second unit last weekend, the door has been opened for reporters, fans and players to wonder about The Sixty Million Dollar Man.

Haley followed up Cassel’s mediocre performance against the Texans by acknowledging that Cassel has done nothing to distinguish himself from the Chiefs’ injury-prone, winless former quarterback of the future, Brodie Croyle.

You can call me a pot-stirrer, but Haley brought the pot from the pantry and placed it on the stove. Forgive me for reaching to turn the fire on.

We can put the pot away if Cassel puts together a decent showing tonight against one of the league’s top defenses.

Oh, boy. Cassel’s first important game in a Chiefs uniform is at the Metrodome on Brett Favre Night, featuring Jared Allen, The Williams Wall and Vikings fans believing tonight is the launching of their Super Bowl bandwagon.

Oh, boy. Quarterback controversies start out tiny, build a life of their own and become these all-encompassing, massive, uncontrollable snowballs.

It’s tiny right now. All it will take is a tiny nudge to get this thing really rolling.

I can’t for the life of me understand why Haley sent The Sixty Million Dollar Man out into Arrowhead Stadium without his best weapon. It was foolish.

Did ABC ever send Steve Austin out on camera without his bionic right arm and left eye? If the network had, the show would’ve been called The Two Million Dollar Man.

Matt Cassel without a No. 1 or No. 2 receiver is a career backup. What we might learn this season is that Matt Cassel without Randy Moss and Wes Welker is a career backup.

We’ll have a little bit more information after tonight’s game. We might get an early indication on whether The Sixty Million Dollar Man is overpriced.

If he is, that’s a strike against Scott Pioli, not Todd Haley. Pioli masterminded the Cassel acquisition.

Last week, when Bowe made Brodie Croyle look like a competent NFL quarterback, I wondered what Pioli thought of Bowe’s use. More than likely, Pioli agreed with Haley’s get-tough policy with Bowe.

But there’s a chance Pioli was most interested in how Bowe’s use influenced the play of the quarterback Pioli sweet-talked Clark Hunt into giving $30 million in guarantees.

Football teams operate like every other business. The people in charge largely do what’s in their own best interest. If they hire someone and their credibility is attached to the new hire’s success, then they’ll do whatever is ethical or unethical to see that their new hire shines.

If it would help Cassel, Pioli would spring O.J. Simpson from the joint and line him up 7 yards deep. It’s hard for me to believe that Pioli thinks Bowe’s practice habits are so poor that the only way to get him to perform is demote him to third team, especially when The Sixty Million Dollar Man is stuck throwing to Terrance Copper.

Cassel doesn’t need to post big numbers tonight. He just has to sustain a drive or two, put a couple of field goals on the board. The Minnesota defense is really good. And the Metrodome is going to be electric with Favre in the house.

I think I've said this already.

Reading Haley's comments on Croyle in the last few weeks, I think he really likes his physical ability, and would love to get him to play at a level that his physical ability would suggest he can play at.

However, I think we've seen enough of his flip flopping of Croyls and Thigpen on the depth chart during TC and preseason, to make the guess, and mind, I did say guess, that Croyle is still making enough mistakes that Haley isn't yet ready to trust him on a full time basis.

If Croyle progresses, and Cassel continues to make poor decisions on the field, then this might actually becaome a legitimate question.

But right now, I don't think that Brodie has done enough to be "Haley's guy".

I think you highly overestimate his value on the free market and he's trying to leverage his way into the locker room with these articles in order to try and maintain some kind of value within the Chiefs and to a lesser extent at KC Star.

The bad thing about Carl is he could never prove Whitlock was an idiot.

I'm thinking Pioli eventually will.

I think you underestimate Whitlock's value.

He's not afraid to say stupid shit, and unfortunately, in our society today, stupid sells.

Wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong but that's how I see it.

Unless Whitlock or any of the other writers who are suggesting a QB have inside information, and are not basing the idea of a QB controversy solely on Haley's press conference comments, this is all a joke.

It's evident that Pioli/Haley want to create an atmosphere where no one feels overly contented with his position/standing. That's all.

Given the free pass Herm received for years, and the immediate heat on the new guys, one has to ask if Whitlock is in fact a racist. Bizarre behavior.

No I think it comes from Herm was a moron, that was a given where Pioli has came in and acting like the big shit from moment one and hasn't done anything. Everybody knew Herm sucked and the team was in complete rebuild flux. No use in beating a dead horse there over and over again.

Not always it's not. It's only different when you KNOW you have THE QB for your team. It's obvious that we don't.

How is replacing 30 players doing NOTHING?

So he's fair game to bash at 0-2 because he's arrogant?

What? So I guess winning 3 SB wins means he hasn't done anything?

Oh darn he replaced 30 practice squad scrubs. It wasnt that impressive what he has done. He can keep thumping his chest about replacing crapola which all the Chiefs did last year was try to build a young core and see if any of the practice squad cuts could blossom into something.

And I think you highly underestimate his value.

Hell, a thread here alone generates in excess of 500 replies and many have gone beyond 1,000.

The guy is controversial. Name a columnist today that isn't controversial. It's the name of the game.

And furthermore, you don't see other columnists across the country from other cities appear on Oprah, fill-in at ESPN, work for AOL, Fox and write weekly columns.

Face it: The dude is in demand and right so. Whether you agree with his positions or not.