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Thig Lyfe 03-20-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 6618383)
He wasn't fouled. This is just more whining from a bunch of people that can't accept that KU sucked in that half.

I don't think anybody is denying that they played like shit.

ChiefaRoo 03-20-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6618381)
They've been fouling us in the post, but some of it just flat out wasn't called.

Yeah, they're good at not looking like they're doing it. KU can be more physical and draw fouls as long as they don't lose their cool and start charging. KU is huge and quick in the paint. UNI is mostly huge but not so quick. That being said. UNI will start charge flopping if KU goes strictly to a lower your shoulder offense.

Sure-Oz 03-20-2010 04:39 PM

Sherron was bitching 'call it both ways'

wake up sherron, no way ku should lose to ****ing northern iowa

BWillie 03-20-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6618399)
I bet they do. Maybe not their center, but Ali Fukiwhatsit can.

I played against this fucker at the fieldhouse when I went to school at Iowa. The fucker was like 16 and was making threes from half court. Kid is a player.

RealSNR 03-20-2010 04:40 PM

It's embarassing that KU's getting beaten this badly by a bunch of white boys simply because they're trying harder.

Why the hell is Northern Iowa hustling to the ball and getting the rebounds and we're not? That's what I want to know. Bill Self just might yell his vocal chords out of existence in the locker room. I hope he does. This play by KU is totally unacceptable.

Reerun_KC 03-20-2010 04:40 PM

That is the 3rd worse half of basketball I have seen this whole season out of KU.... Self has a way to get them to listen and show up in the second half... Should be a different game...

ROYC75 03-20-2010 04:40 PM

OK, to the bathroom before I **** on myself, this game is going to get tight in the 2nd half. One team down needing to fight to get back in and one the underdog that wants it badly.

Better strap yourself in the chair the 2nd half.

KC_Connection 03-20-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6618388)
I always knew sports was about wanting it enough. And giving 110% and all those bullsh*t cliches. I could have been a pro basketball player if I was playing w/ 110% effort and hustled. That is a load of crap. Sometimes a team comes to play, and the ball bounces their way. Sometimes it goes the other way. There is alot of chance in basketball, whether you like it your not.

#1. Are you actually lecturing me about chance? The guy who reads Basketball Prospectus and Ken Pomeroy daily?

#2. No, playing with effort is not a load of crap. Talent has a lot to do with winning, and usually KU can get by with just that...but they have not played hard today at all in comparison to those white guys on UNI. I just don't get how anybody who watched the game today could deny that.

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KU isn't playing well. Not because they aren't hustling or trying. Maybe because they are getting out smarted, and getting outbombed from three by the bald guy, but not because of they aren't giving it their all. You think Sherron Collins came back to not give it 110%? You think Cole Aldrich let his draft stock slide from #5 to #12 to not try hard enough against UNI? Think again.
I'm just watching the game. Are you?

007 03-20-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 6618396)
I don't foresee KU's defense being a major problem in the 2nd. UNI won't continue to make shots as they have.

That is exactly the attitude that will get KU beat. Figuring the other team will just cool off.

KU needs to wake up and do something about it rather than hope it just slows down or stops.

Lzen 03-20-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 6618373)
God some of you guys sound like donk fans.

KU can win this if they drive the ball into the post to the twins and Aldrich. That's how you beat UNI. I saw WSU do it earlier this year in Doo Dah. UNI will foul you in the post.

Yes, KU needs to drive every possession. They settled for too many outside shots in the first half. That' okay if those shots are falling, but nobody is hitting those not named Reed.

I disagree with some of you guys about the fouls, though. KU is getting hacked on the offensive end or someone hangs onto a KU guard while he is driving and mostly they aren't calling it. Meanwhile, Morningstar tugs on a UNI player's jersey and they call it. Sure seems uneven to me. But I'm certainly not unbiased.

This does, however, remind me somewhat of the So. Illinois game KU had in the NCAA tourney in 2007. And there were shit tons of fouls by SIU that didn't get called in that game. Hell, I even showed a bunch of pictures in a post about that game to prove it to the people that said KU fans were whining. This one is quite that bad, but they are fouling and hacking and getting away with a lot of it.

But KU is not playing smart and they are definitely not as intense as they need to be to beat UNI. They had better get pissed or this one is over.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 6618396)
I don't foresee KU's defense being a major problem in the 2nd. UNI won't continue to make shots as they have.

Maybe. But one wouldn't think that a mother****er shooting 11% and making ONE GODDAMN 3 pointer would drain a couple on us. They have to create some turnovers (like they did against Lehigh) and get some ****ing rebounds. Hopefully that will translate into some easy buckets. I'd press also. Perhaps go box and 1 against the Ali dude. Throw an occasional trap-zone at them to see if they can get some junk turnovers.

Really, they can't do anything differently on offense except try to get it in again inside and see if they can get a foul called. They could send the house to the offensive rebounds, but they block out really well, so I don't know if that would have a profound impact.

They are going to have to attack this lead from the defensive end and work the offense.

KC_Connection 03-20-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6618399)
I bet they do. Maybe not their center, but Ali Fukiwhatsit can.

He's a 37% shooter from 3, and 42% from 2. Even he won't keep it up....I hope.

alnorth 03-20-2010 04:43 PM

Well, anyway if nothing else is going to motivate this team, then they must realize this simple horrific fact: I live in Des Moines and have to go to work on Monday. If they want to lose next weekend I guess thats fine, but the Jayhawks cant do this to me. They simply cant.

BWillie 03-20-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 6618422)
He's a 37% shooter from 3, and 42% from 2. Even he won't keep it up....I hope.

But what if he does. Kid has got a quick release. I don't think Shrek will keep it up. But this kid could keep on filling the hoop

BWillie 03-20-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6618423)
Well, anyway if nothing else is going to motivate this team, then they must realize this simple horrific fact: I live in Des Moines and have to go to work on Monday. If they want to lose next weekend I guess thats fine, but the Jayhawks cant do this to me. They simply cant.

You should call Sherron Collins. And tell him you are concerned w/ getting harassed by Iowans on Monday. I'm sure he'll pick it up :)

KC_Connection 03-20-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6618405)
Sherron was bitching 'call it both ways'

wake up sherron, no way ku should lose to ****ing northern iowa

Not the psychological attitude you really should be taking in this situation, Sherron.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 6618420)
Yes, KU needs to drive every possession. They settled for too many outside shots in the first half. That' okay if those shots are falling, but nobody is hitting those not named Reed.

I disagree with some of you guys about the fouls, though. KU is getting hacked on the offensive end or someone hangs onto a KU guard while he is driving and mostly they aren't calling it. Meanwhile, Morningstar tugs on a UNI player's jersey and they call it. Sure seems uneven to me. But I'm certainly not unbiased.

This does, however, remind me somewhat of the So. Illinois game KU had in the NCAA tourney in 2007. And there were shit tons of fouls by SIU that didn't get called in that game. Hell, I even showed a bunch of pictures in a post about that game to prove it to the people that said KU fans were whining. This one is quite that bad, but they are fouling and hacking and getting away with a lot of it.

But KU is not playing smart and they are definitely not as intense as they need to be to beat UNI. They had better get pissed or this one is over.

I'd agree with this for the most part. They need to set the biggest meanest ****ing screens ever. Also, when a screen is set, they should take a step back to create space instead of running right into the hedge, because they're obviously not calling that. They should work it to the short corner with Cole and crash one of the Morrises.

ChiefaRoo 03-20-2010 04:47 PM

It would be a huge missed opportunity if KU loses this game. I think most people agree they have the most talented group of players in D1 ball. They have to come out and execute though or the UNI boys will eat their lunch by out hustling and out thinking them.

KC_Connection 03-20-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6618418)
That is exactly the attitude that will get KU beat. Figuring the other team will just cool off.

KU needs to wake up and do something about it rather than hope it just slows down or stops.

I agree. But that's just what the stats show. Every once in a while there are outlier games, though, and this could be one of them unless KU changes things.

ChiefaRoo 03-20-2010 04:48 PM

I predict KU wins by three.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 6618441)
I predict KU wins by three.

I'm predicting a KU loss until they show me they are willing to change.

KC_Connection 03-20-2010 04:50 PM

I said before the game that KU would win if they score 70. I'll still stick with that.

Bearcat 03-20-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6618405)
Sherron was bitching 'call it both ways'

wake up sherron, no way ku should lose to ****ing northern iowa

I completely disagree... there's a ton of parity in CBB, and shit happens in a one-and-done tourney. UNI is playing really well right now... yeah, KU should win a 7 or even 5 game series, but UNI is like 8/10 from 3 and are playing good D.... give them some credit.
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DeezNutz 03-20-2010 04:51 PM

KU will win this game. Right now, I wouldn't be worried.

alnorth 03-20-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6618445)
I'm predicting a KU loss until they show me they are willing to change.

Other than maybe throwing a zone in there to see if it screws with UNI's head, there's not much to change. They are playing their game, and UNI's defense is designed to deny the inside game at the expense of proving wide-open looks. We have to hit the 3 and then go back to defend, thats all there is to it.

DeezNutz 03-20-2010 04:52 PM

And that's why they'll win.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:52 PM

Good first posession,.

Silock 03-20-2010 04:52 PM

UNI really trying to make this a slow game.

Lzen 03-20-2010 04:52 PM

Good start. Keep working it inside. Stay with the UNI shooters, though.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:52 PM

There we go Cole.

ChiefaRoo 03-20-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6618445)
I'm predicting a KU loss until they show me they are willing to change.

Hey I love to bash pretentious KU fans especially when they take a shite on the Valley but KU is just too good to lose this unless they're mentally weak and I don't believe they are.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:54 PM

Bad bad shot by Taylor. Horrid.

Silock 03-20-2010 04:54 PM

Cold cold cold.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:54 PM

UMMMMMMMM WHAT!

Reerun_KC 03-20-2010 04:54 PM

Fellas..... This isnt good....


Were still asleep and not giving a shit...

Pioli Zombie 03-20-2010 04:55 PM

If they do lose the dog****ers in Lawrence will be on the rampage
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chiefsfan987 03-20-2010 04:55 PM

This game is over.

Silock 03-20-2010 04:55 PM

This sucks.

Lzen 03-20-2010 04:55 PM

Are you ****ing kidding me on tha fuld my Morris?


QUit shooting the bad outside shots, KU! ****!

ChiefaRoo 03-20-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 6618471)
This game is over.

?

Reerun_KC 03-20-2010 04:56 PM

No pressure or defense from KU today....

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:56 PM

They called a foul. Wow.

Silock 03-20-2010 04:56 PM

Ridiculous shots.

Lzen 03-20-2010 04:56 PM

Frankenstein is not gonna cool off.

ChiefaRoo 03-20-2010 04:57 PM

KU is shooting to many jumpshots. They have to pound it down low.

Reerun_KC 03-20-2010 04:57 PM

This is an epic beatdown that UNI is issuing....

Buehler445 03-20-2010 04:57 PM

We're going to lose this ****ing game.

KC_Connection 03-20-2010 04:58 PM

10 points is a lot in a low possession game like this. Not looking good AT ALL.

Silock 03-20-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6618481)
We're going to lose this ****ing game.

Yup.

007 03-20-2010 04:58 PM

We are obviously deserving of the 4th number one seed.

DaneMcCloud 03-20-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6618481)
We're going to lose this ****ing game.

Why does Bill Self have SUCH a hard time defeating these small schools with inferior talent?

:shake:

Saulbadguy 03-20-2010 04:58 PM

Did KU shoot more than 0 free throws in the first half?

Just checking.

Lzen 03-20-2010 04:58 PM

I have already seen a couple UNI guys flopping on 3 different plays this half. That's what 'roo warned us about. :shake: At least they only called that one on Marcus.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2010 04:59 PM

KU looks tired :(

KChiefs1 03-20-2010 04:59 PM

Ali Baba of NoIowa is pretty fun to watch.

BAS 03-20-2010 04:59 PM

Not good, but we are never out of it. KU really has the ability to shut down the opposing team for like 5-6 minutes. But this one has to start with the defense and running patient offense.

Bearcat 03-20-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6618481)
We're going to lose this ****ing game.

I just started getting that sick feeling in my stomach... hasn't happened since abt 7min left in the NC game 2 years ago. I have faith, but damn....
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Pioli Zombie 03-20-2010 05:00 PM

I like KU. I really do. But there is this obnoxious woman at work who acts likes she's still 22 and is KU this and KU that. I would laugh my ass off if.........
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KC_Connection 03-20-2010 05:00 PM

Collins hasn't figured out this game yet that passing the ball down low is the only way they can win.

Saulbadguy 03-20-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6618489)
Ali Baba of NoIowa is pretty fun to watch.

Ali of Cairo.

007 03-20-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6618488)
KU looks tired :(

KU isn't playing. I don't know what school this is that UNI is playing.

chefs fan in omaha 03-20-2010 05:01 PM

GO NORTHERN IOWA

Buehler445 03-20-2010 05:01 PM

This game is just about over. And the refs are just driving the point home.

Saulbadguy 03-20-2010 05:01 PM

#32 for UNI looks like what I would look like in a basketball jersey.

DeezNutz 03-20-2010 05:02 PM

All sorts of time left, beakers. All sorts of time.

Silock 03-20-2010 05:02 PM

Why are we not pressing them?

luv 03-20-2010 05:02 PM

They're waiting longer and longer to wake up. If they don't lose this game, I'm not sure they won't lose the next one.

Reerun_KC 03-20-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6618499)
This game is just about over. And the refs are just driving the point home.

Your right... Refs stink, but KU isnt helping itself....


UNI will go on and get thrashed next round...

But KU is done.....

Silock 03-20-2010 05:02 PM

Over.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 05:02 PM

That's back ****ing court. No KU player touched the ****ing ball.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2010 05:02 PM

why was that not over and back?

KU did not gain possession at any time

Saulbadguy 03-20-2010 05:03 PM

UNI runs a shit offense.

Buehler445 03-20-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6618503)
Why are we not pressing them?

We have to or they will be shooting with 3 seconds left on the clock every time.

dirk digler 03-20-2010 05:03 PM

wow what is happening to KU?

Saulbadguy 03-20-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6618508)
why was that not over and back?

KU did not gain possession at any time

ROFL

Lzen 03-20-2010 05:04 PM

UNI shoots FTs well, too. That is tough.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2010 05:04 PM

collins is ****ing up

007 03-20-2010 05:04 PM

good god man

Sure-Oz 03-20-2010 05:05 PM

holy shit

007 03-20-2010 05:05 PM

**** this


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