Amen, he keeps it up and his trailer might blow up.

You got it buddy.

Carwin's face wasn't ripped to shreds because he tapped. Lesnar could have choked him unconscious and then beat him to death because Carwin wouldn't have been able to defend himself.

Carwin, on the other hand, was never able to put Lesnar in a position where Lesnar couldn't defend himself. That's why Lesnar was able to escape and win the fight.

Did you mean Tim Sylvia? Sylvia lives in the same town I do, and is a tub of lard now. He got knocked out by Ray Mercer in his last MMA fight in Iowa...the same Ray Mercer that got killed by Kimbo Slice.

Sylvia is a lazy, fat joke now.
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I'm a tool and you want to see Tim SYLVIA fight Lesnar. I mean this board is beyond stuck on stupid when it comes to MMA.

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Sylvia was good about 4-5 yrs ago, he's ****ing garbage now though at which I agree w/ you.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that you're completely reeruned.

When is "Oversteem" fighting in the UFC?

That all you got?




weak

Weak is talking about this subject when you're a n00b and don't have a clue. That's weak.

results don't lie.

Yup, I dont have a clue yet you're the one spouting off the fight should have been stopped the first rd???

ROFL dumbass.

if champions get the benefit of the doubt then how did forrest beat rampage???

pr capone admits that would have been stopped in any other fight. well then it should have been stopped on this fight as well
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You are going about it the right way. No sour grapes or name calling just pointing out it "could" have been stopped. I think most would agree with that. However the other guy went batshit crazy so people responded a little different~

I'm a Fightabulator and one the smartest F'ers on the F'n planet.

thanks. i think that there is some protection for the ufc golden boys. some get more leeway than others. forrest for example.

like i said in the other thread i can respect brock a tiny bit after surviving and coming back BUT if big country beat kimbo while tapping on the guys head, hell the ref looked like he didnt know if biggun was punching or tapping out lol, then this fight should have been stopped cuz carwin was throwing bombs
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I never said that it was Lesnar that got the leeway. IMHO, the leeway was given because it was a title fight. Had it been Carwin on the bottom getting pounded like that, I believe the ref would have shown the same consideration.

i disagree about it being the same if carwin was on the ground. i feel as though the ufc is starting to somewhat protect the money guys. he wasnt out but it went past the point where most fights are stopped title or not.

the rules dont change for title fights, well except for going five rounds.
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The refs do not work for the UFC, they are employed by the state athletic commission.

Lesnar pushed Carwin away with his feet, at points covered up so well that Carwin was hitting only his arms, and it never looked like Lesnar just gave up while on the bottom. Perhaps the amazing Dan Mergliata would have stopped it, but I doubt the Herb Dean and McCarthy would have stopped it.

You have to remember that the UFC has no control over the judges. The judges are appointed by the state athletic commision. The judges do not take orders from the UFC or Dana White so the UFC does not control if/when a ref stops a bout.

THIS... is what I also typed but got hung up on a call at work.

:thumb:

White was angry when he saw Rosenthal in the cage before the main event and asked UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta how Rosenthal got the fight instead of Herb Dean, who he regards as the best referee in the history of mixed martial arts.

But Rosenthal showed good judgment and didn’t overreact, as many young referees might have in such a high pressure, high-profile situation. He was proven correct when Lesnar survived and then came back to choke out Carwin at 2:19 of the second round.

“Josh Rosenthal was fantastic and I want to apologize for badmouthing him before he did anything wrong,” White said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...ghtnight070310

funny, its always the same guys huh? if not for the ufc they wouldnt be getting paid now would they?
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and ref isnt the same as judge.
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This in no rule that says because a guy if covering himself with his arms you must stop the fight. It's the refs decision and Josh had a better look at it then any of us at home and he made the right call, because obviously Brock wasn't done. He ended the round on his feet.

why would dana ask fertita anything?? he had nothing to do with it right?
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from past fight history that fight should have been stopped. if everything was kept consistent.
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But Rosenthal wasn't Dana's choice, so that blows away the conspiracy theory.

I'm in the same boat as many here, wanted Carwin to win, but Lesner did what he had to do to survive and then ended the fight.

My only qualm of the night was Lytle deserved submission of the night.

Anyone know where one can find a video of this fight on the net???

Completely disagree. Leben hands down. That said... that was one hell of a hold to get the arm bar. I thought he had choked Brown out with his legs.

did you see dana bitching? i didnt. so are you just taking dana at his word??


yeah and he was going to fight tito but tito was scared and didnt show up.... lol
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I don't think so. I saw Rothwell take much more of a beating from Velazquez and the fight continued then I saw Brock take. It was the right call.

Too me, when a guy has to verbally tell the ref to stop the fight because he doesn't have an arm to tap with, it's impressive. Certainly debatable for sure.

Refs are supposed to stop fights if the fighter is totally defense-less. Meaning if he goes limp or if it's clear that he is unable to DEFEND himself. IMO the good refs are the ones that let it go until it's clear the fighter can no longer defend himself. Brock was down, cut, and taking some good shots from Carwin. BUT he was able to cover up and showed that he was making attempts to fight back. All you ever hear about are the bad refs that "stop fights too early", yet you never hear anything about how "good" a ref is. The ref let it go, Carwin was getting very tired, and his hits were getting less and less effective, and Brock eventually was able to stand to his feet and lean Carwin up against the cage and pretty much was able to rest before the bell rang. Carwin was tired. I don't believe in the whole "well it's because he's never been out of the 1st rd in his fights". That's bullshit because they sure as hell don't train that way. He as well as Brock trained for 5 rounds. He was just gassed, he exerted all of his energy throwing bombs. I think he was just too anxious more than anything. Having a better gameplan "during" the fight could have resulted in a different outcome for Carwin. But that 2nd rd proved that he didn't have anything left, he couldn't stand Lesnar's takedown because he didn't have any energy left. Then once Brock had the sidemount Carwin was finished. His eyes bulged out of his head and had the oh **** look on his face. Goodnight Carwin, sweet dreams. Had there not been a ref in this fight, Lesnar would have killed Carwin eventually from him passing out, then Brock wailing on him to death.

Having that said I still think Carwin poses as Lesnar's biggest threat as I post today. At least Brock knows now that he's not invincible. His first loss was a fluke loss. Mir's a pussy and Brock knows that, Frank knows that. Cain Velasquez IMO doesn't pose much as a threat to Lesnar as Carwin does. But Brock is a tough mother****er. Only he would have been able to recover from the punishment.

You don't even understand how the rules are enforced. If a fighter turtles up that is "not intelligently defending yourself". That's exactly what Brock did. It doesn't matter if the guy goes limp or gets KTFO. He doesn't have to. When he turtles up and takes 10 ear hole shots the fight is stopped. Unless he's the cover boy of your video game.

"google" MMAShare

Should be first main link that comes up

how many times do you have to be told that the Nevada Athletic commision does not care about any video game or that the UFC does not get to "choose" their referee. This was a good ref. It was a Undisputed HW championship fight on the biggest fight in the league's history. The ref is going to let this thing go. Mazagatti probably would have stopped the fight.......he stops everything.

47 unanswered blows. How many should a guy have to land on an turtled up opponent before they end it? 49, 65, 71?

How about until the guy taps...you know...like Carwin did.

and here is where you show your ass

you of all people, with your 20 years of MMA experience, should know that the refs in the fight are not employees of the UFC and report to the state athletic comission.

the state athletic comission does not give 2 shits about who wins the fight.

stfu you fraud

If Carwin was working over Lesnar as hard as Guardian is getting abused in this thread, the fight would have been stopped.

ROFL

make me stfu

You mean because a bunch of ****ing guys who don't know shit about MMA are having a circle jerk to see who can swallow the most amount of Lesnar's man juice?

ROFLROFLROFL

torrent is always available.

The other thread about this fight has it embedded

Did it ever occure to your turd filled brain, that just maybe i'd like to see Tim get his ****en head knocked off as I never really liked the guy anyway?

And god forbid someone make a spelling mistake huhh?

Tell me, does Dana White thank you for your weekley blowjobs while your telling him how to run his company?:rolleyes:

I mean shit dude, your such a ****en self proclaimed know it all i'm starting to wonder if your not Dane in disguise:eek:

Funny. After reading this thread today I don't feel bad at all for having TheGuardian call me out as being a dumb mma fan. That guy is a tool.

Nah Dana woulda shut this **** up a long time ago. He is a bad Representative of the sport period.

lol, ****ing TheGuardian, he's still at it.

This shit needs to be in the hall of fame.

shhh the fight should have been stopped, he's a mma expert

Did someone really just use the "make me" defense? Did I really just see that?

Well, in that case, I'm rubber and you're glue...

And don't forget, no cuts, no buts, no coconuts!

ROFL........why don't ya make me?!?!?

Hey...

My dad can beat up your dad.

It's obvious you caught Lesnar ****ing your mom.

The gift that keeps on giving....

Which, btw CP, Sully coined that last phrase, so he says!

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Whereas you WANT Lesnar to **** yours.

that

just

happened