This thread is stupid.

That said, anyone showing up in this thread with faux-rage is reading a different board than I am. All we've heard all offseason and all week leading up to this game is how we had no chance. Any thread where people predicted a Chiefs' win or anything positive was immediately met with post after post of sarcasm and nearly every one of those threads turned out like 99% of threads on this board, with the same 4-5 people taking over the thread posting a million times repeating the same negative shit.

And, you can bet that if they Chiefs lost that game that the board would have been littered with "I told you so" threads the other way from the "realists."

Lol, you take being wrong so gracefully.:clap:

He's someone that doesn't disappear for months at a time, then show up and state a bunch of stupid shit.

So....Mathews would have had 100 more if it wasn't raining? Yeah ok.



And Matt Cassel would have thrown for 360 if it wasn't raining either...

True dat.

Your sig may come to fruition.

I didn't think the Chiefs would be able to stop San Diego's ground attack and thought that would be the difference between winning and losing.

Everyone knew my opinion on Cassel and the draft. The draftees performed beyond expectations and Cassel performed below expectations.

The Chiefs got a much needed and much deserved win, but they're not going to win consistently until they get better play from the QB position.

68 yards won't cut it for 16 weeks.

Uh, actually what I said was 120 on the ground, 50 in the air.


Dumb

It's a good thing you were too cowardly to bet me on Matthew's rushing yards and RDMC's total yardage. Sissy cali-boy.

That doesn't even make sense. How does wanting a 5-7 year starter equate to a short-term fix?

As for "most talented player on the board," well, it's far easier to refute that than it is to prove it. Perhaps I could be convinced that Dex and Javi were the most talented but barring that I don't accept that statement as outright fact.

Most of the people who bitched about these picks did so because we had bigger needs. They wanted guys like Cody, Clausen, or a lineman. That's called drafting for need and its short-sighted.

Is this last draft anything like the pats'
did they draft for speed as well

So stupid you don't even remember what you said LMAO
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Yes, yes you are.

LMAO I was looking for that. He was just a tick off.

He predicted the Raiders would run for 300 last year in wk 2 and was only off by about 220.

I was just thinking about that. I will laugh my ass off if it happens.

I agree that drafting specifically for need is short-sighted. The argument for taking a Cody or a Clausen was not based upon need. It was based upon seeing those players as the best talents on the board + the best positional value on the board. Need happened to overlap, creating a perfect storm of opportunity.

What the Chiefs chose to do was markedly improve team speed. There's something to be said for the strategy; it certainly paid dividends last night. The question (and the reason why people disapproved of the '10 draft) is whether Dex and Javi - classic complimentary pieces - can still compliment the team over the next few seasons.

That said, IF the D-Line continues to play like they did last night and IF Derrick Johnson can continue to be the disruptive force that he was last night (and, obv, re-signed) then Dex and Javi look a lot less like luxury picks.

Nope... drafturbators had all off season to tell us how shitty this draft was and how we'd have no chance in this game. So we're taking this week to tell them to **** off.

Look, if Dane wasn't such an asshole 80% of the time it wouldn't be so fun to call him out.

Hell I actually like Dane now that I don't take him too personally. I am sure the feeling is not mutual. :D

:toast:

And just who are these "Drafturbators" that said the draft was "shitty"?

And while we're at it, who are the "Drafturbators" who said that the Chiefs had no chance to win?

I think we agree here. I'm acting on the assumption that the FO didn't like Clausen or Cody as players. To draft them just because we need a QB and NT would have been short-term thinking.

My dream draft would have been Berry, Cody, Clausen for the reasons you mentioned. If the FO don't like them, they made decisions in the best long-term interest of the team.
Its hard for me to fault them for adding that kind of speed. Those rookies were as good as I've ever seen a draft class be right out of the gate. What did we have, something like 6 players with a real impact in that game?

Seriously? After the Berry pick almost everything was questioned except Asamoah.

I won $1500 imaginary dollars in the gambling challenge thread by betting on the Chiefs.

By whom, specifically?

Dane for 1.

I am paraphrasing but he said "Why won't the Chargers win by 30".

Pioli, Haley, et al.'s detractors here are so violent and vitriolic in the expression of their opposition to the front office that it should be no surprise that the more optimistic will use this opportunity to give some back.

Yeah, it seems pretty clear that the front office didn't like Clausen or Cody (or Linval Jospeh or Torell Troup). Because you have to think that the front office recognized a deficit in the NT position at least (I can understand for political reasons why a QB wouldn't be considered).

Rep. That pretty much sums up CP's vibe.

Depends on how Smith works out. He had a good game.

Yeah, I didn't think they had a chance to win. I was wrong. BFD.

But I guess that counts as Federal Holiday in the minds of some, so be it.

So, who are these "Drafturbators" that thought the Chiefs had a shitty draft?

Just yesterday morning the two of us were discussing how we thought KC had a legit chance at winning because of the likelihood of a fired-up defense in the MNF atmosphere limiting Ryan Matthews' effectiveness. That's pretty much what happened. And we're part of that camp they call the "Drafturbators."

You are wrong more than you will admit. If you weren't so ****ing confident in every single opinion you have it wouldn't be as big of a deal or as fun to point out when you are wrong.:D

I give Dane his credit. He did like the draft from the get go. He said it was a good draft and even argued with fellow drafturbators about it
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Look even some of the draftobators knew we had a chance to win.

I am pretty sure Mecca along with Dane predicted an epic blowout. 2 of the more vocal draftobators.

Dude sorry. You're not a drafturbators.
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Bullshit.

When I'm wrong, I've happily admitted that I was wrong because 90% of the time, it's what's best for the Chiefs organization.

Unfortunately, that's been rare as of late. Hopefully, the tide is turning.

Yea, Dane was actually fairly complimentary of the draft.

Problem with grouping people is when they have differences in opinion they get offended when the group is called out.

No difference than all the dumbass "True Fan" references.

So, is Drafturbator a derogatory term? If not, what is it?

I never once criticized this draft. As a matter of fact, I LOVED it and defended it vehemently this offseason.

What is the definition of a draft tabulator?


I get that the people involved are those who want to burn alive anyone who largely agrees with what Pioli is doing, but what does it have to do with the draft or with turbation?

Good, because I hate that name. My neg rep collection says otherwise, though.

See the post above this one.

Also I don't know that it is near as derogatory as "True Fan".

Excuse me?

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/newreply....eply&p=6712720


I don't think you paid very close attention to my comments.

You get neg rep?

I stand corrected, you were thrilled. :thumb:

Each and everyone of you are special to me. I love you all.

Only once or twice a week. Not counting D.C. neg rep.

my beef with Dane right now is he's a Hollywood guy...

he acts like he knows all and is superior to everyone...

before the game...

I gave some very concrete opinions as to why the Chiefs had a shot/would at least keep it close...

I mentioned opening night...I mentioned Arrowhead...I mentioned MNF...

and then I told him what Vegas did...

I said...

The line opened at +5.5...everyone put their action on San Diego...Vegas responded by moving the line to +4.5!!!!

meaning Vegas...the most powerful tool in all of sports...the one constant that doesn't lose...

PUT IT ALL ON KC...

THEY SAID FINE PUBLIC...YOU PUT ALL OF YOUR MONEY ON SAN DIEGO...

WE'LL TAKE KC...

I explained it very thoroughly do Dane and even Amnorix...two very intelligent, very informed people with common sense...

and was still mocked.

I'M SORRY IF I NEEDED THIS THREAD FOR MY VINDICATION.

BUT IT FEELS GREAT.

If there is one thing I'm obsessed with...

it's the NFL...

and it's betting the NFL

I know how to make GOOD bets...

I lived with a bookie and a professional gambler for god's sake...

I lived with two guys that are banned from several Vegas sports books for betting these very line moves...

but no one will listen...

and people think I just talk out of my ass.

and it's hilarious

I think I traded neg rep with you once, pretty sure I lost. :)

I am amazed that you are clueing we mortals in on your can't-miss gambling strategies. Shouldn't you be making people pay you for information instead? Dial 1-800-Meatmanwins or something of that nature?

you know

after last week

after last year

I probably should

Of course I could post the link of where I went 13-3 against the spread last week...and am ranked 67th out of over 200,000 entries+ on ESPN.com...

but I'm just a moron...

I don't know anything...

and yeah...

the tools I use to pick my games...plus common sense...plus the fact I'm a god damn NFL diehard who lives for the NFL...

it was quite evident to me that the Chiefs were either going to win...or at least have a chance to win at the end...

and Dane...

Dane said we were going to lose by 20+

he deserves all of the shit he is going to get because of the way he conducted himself this entire week when anyone suggested that they thought the Chiefs just may pull out the upset

Gee Hootie, I'm sorry that my opinion wounded your pee hole.

Yes he did, I remember. It made me feel a little better about it, since I don't spend much time watching College Football.

I understand, there was no way this team was going to draft Cody, after those pictures of his rack were on the net showed how out of shape he was, but I was hoping they would get him, in the second.

I'm sorry that you couldn't be subjective for one second and listen to anything I had to say this week...

ANYTHING

you...

OF ALL PEOPLE

should know betting against Vegas is a dumb ****ing thing to do

yeah...

Dane hyped our draft from the get go...

That's why I always give him credit...I know deep down he's a real ****ing fan and he wants nothing more than to see the Chiefs win games and be successful.

Hamas and Mecca (especially Mecca)...?

No, not at all.

Those guys are ****ing fake fans no ifs, ands or buts.

That's correct. He is not a drafturbator, he is THE Drafturbator.

Meat, you should run a prediction thread the rest of the season. Pick as many or few games as you like and document how you do against the spread over a whole season

LMAO

I listened, I just didn't agree.

:D

well that's what I'm doing with my pick'em on ESPN against the spread...

but yeah...

I think I will start a thread betting the games I actually like instead of EVERY single game...

This week I would have went 4-1 I think...

as, even though I wasn't ENAMORED with the Colts since I like the Texans so much...I basically ALWAYS bet with the Colts especially if I can get them as an underdog.

I swear, Hootie just gets worse and worse with each passing day...

:facepalm:

Hamas is a fan. IMO, he'd go just as berserk as anyone if this team won a playoff game or something.

Was he wrong about this?

Nah...

because when we lost our next playoff game it would be a ...

"failure of a season since we didn't win a Super Bowl!!!!!"

it is what it is with those guys

nothing is good enough...everything is wrong if things don't go their way...or Scott Wright's way...or whoever it is they cherrypick their shit from...

HAMAS JENKINS GAVE THE 2010 CHIEFS DRAFT CLASS A...

...

D+

Hootie, I broke a ****ing coffee table when we gave up an 80 yard TD run to Tomlinson after the ****ed call by Jeff Tripplette on the blocked punt on Sunday Night Football in 2006.

Keep ignoring the mountains of evidence to the contrary with your specious claims and hyperventilating while misusing ellipses. It's all you're good for.

alright fine...

maybe you're just a negative piece of shit fairweather fan with nothing but hate for Pioli so it clouds every single move they make in your eyes...

but Mecca...

that dude

nothing but a troll...

and giving them a D+ for this draft is one of the dumbest posts ever made on ChiefsPlanet.com...

(almost as dumb as calling Tony Romo among the worst starting QB's in the NFL)...

can we agree on those things?

Yup, I'm a fairweather fan. That's why I've rooted for this team since I was 9, with the reward of 2 playoff victories, and none since I was in the sixth ****ing grade.

Keep spinning and deflecting, though, calling other people trolls after starting a thread like this. That's rich.

Well start it... I for one would like to follow an expert gambler like yourself

Hahahahahaha...

This is great.

"Starting a thread like this"

what kind of threads would you and your gang have started if the Chargers won say...

31-9?

????

?????

Exactly.

You all deserve this for...

RUINING THE WHOLE GOD DAMN OFFSEASON AND EVEN THE PRESEASON.

Please quit ruining the regular season, Hootie.

well I assume you're being sarcastic but I for one am appalled I'm being a responsible adult and saving the $$$ for a vacation I have planned for two months which is directly responsible for me not betting this past weekend which in turn cost me a ton of money because I...

WENT 13 AND GOD DAMN 3 AGAINST THE ****ING SPREAD.

Yep!

For the drafturbators and their lackeys this is a mean thread! =(

but damn...I might catch the almighty DaneMcCloud in rep before this thread is over ;)

VINDICATION

Tony Romo is a subpar starting QB. He has literally every weapon imaginable around him, and he mustered up 7 ****ing points on Sunday.

You still aren't able to differentiate fantasy QB'ing from actual QB'ing.

That's why you think Manning is the GOAT, and that's why you constantly suckle the nuts of Romo.

They put up good stat lines and they consistently choke in the biggest moments. But you don't see or care about that b/c your fantasy playoffs have been decided by then.

yet you think Carson Palmer is an all-pro?!?!?!

hahahahaha

dude EVERYONE knows...every single expert...everyone...

they watch Romo...

he has all the tools...

he's a great ****ing QB...

The Chiefs would win 11 games this year with Romo at QB...minimum.

I don't see how Mecca is a troll when has has over 30,000 posts on a Chiefs board. That sure is wasting alot of time with a team you are not a fan of

and Hamas...

DON'T TRY AND TELL ME WHAT I KNOW AND WHAT I DON'T KNOW...

or what I know about real QB'ing...and what I don't know...

you have ZERO CREDIBILITY DUDE...

ZERO

you throw around this credibility shit like you're some sort of all-knowing guru...

WHY?

WHY?

what have you ever said on this board...ever...that gives you any sort of credibility???

Huh?

I know I said Aaron Rodgers would have a monster year when he took over for Favre...I won a bet on that with a dude named RibKing who quit the board rather than pay his bet to me...

It's funny you try and tell me what I know and what I don't know...over and over and over...

but what the **** gives you the right? You have done/said/thought the dumbest ****ing things on this board when it comes to evaluating talent whether it be rookies or veterans...

I was chastised for Palmer last year as well...

The Huard/Green thing...

...

It's becoming a big ****ing joke now...and it's hilarious.

I wonder about Romo myself. If he wasn't in Dallas I think he would be way less relevant.

See how much progress we've made here? Hootie is now okay with Dane. He's worked out things with Hamas. We've ony got Mecca to go and it's mother ****ing kumbaya time!

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And lose in the first round of the playoffs.

I've watched Romo over the years and while I see the ability, I don't see the decision making that's necessary helm a championship football team.

He took a small step last year, so maybe it'll happen. But I just don't see Super Bowl QB at this point.