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Brianfo 11-17-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7180828)
Cassel QB Rating 94.5 16 TD 4 INT

Manning QB Rating 93.9 16 TD 4 INT

You just proved my point. Ur and idiot. Go jerk off another pig.

Brianfo 11-17-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180829)
I don't have to look at a list to tell you that QB rating is about as useles as you are in an English class.

John Elway spent much of his career with a rating at or below 80.

I guess he was just a mediocre QB.

If you want to blow Elway go ahead. U=FAIL

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-17-2010 09:18 PM

This guy makes Smed look like Sherman Alexie.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-17-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7180835)
You just proved my point. Ur and idiot. Go jerk off another pig.


You said he's no Peyton Manning.

Their stats are identical.

And it's you're. Not ur

Brianfo 11-17-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7180844)
You said he's no Peyton Manning.

Their stats are identical.

Exactly!! Pig ****er!

milkman 11-17-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7180841)
If you want to blow Elway go ahead. U=FAIL

Nice deflection, dumbass.

I assume you don't have a dictionary, but you can look up the word on the internet.

Good luck.

Get your babysitter to help.

LOCOChief 11-17-2010 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=Pestilence;7177924]1. Doesn't rack up all of his yardage and TDs in garbage time.
2. Stops overthrowing/underthrowing his WRs.
3. Actually completes a game winning drive.
4. Stops looking like a douchebag when he's on camera.
5. Stops taking unnecessary sacks and learns when to throw the ball away.
6. Stops getting happy feet in the pocket and freaking out when there is the slightest bit of pressure.[/QUOTE


1-6 spot on, anything short is Cassel

Brianfo 11-17-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180848)
Nice deflection, dumbass.

I assume you don't have a dictionary, but you can look up the word on the internet.

Good luck.

Get your babysitter to help.

Milkman=Dumbass.

Norman Einstein 11-17-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180823)
So your whole argument is that he's our QB and he's better than anyone else we have.

Dumbass.

Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.

How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?

It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.

You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.

LOCOChief 11-17-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180829)
I don't have to look at a list to tell you that QB rating is about as useles as you are in an English class.

John Elway spent much of his career with a rating at or below 80.

I guess he was just a mediocre QB.


Vick, maybe the suprise of the decade

Brianfo 11-17-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7180831)
Actually, I did this in a thread earlier this week before anyone else even noticed it and were instead rushing to blame Richardson.

"Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid mother****er. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW."

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=236837

Get you're facts straight. At least it makes you're argument more believeable. Does it piss you off that "noone notices." I laugh at you now and in person. You ate too many paint chips as a child.

Norman Einstein 11-17-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180772)
Charlie Weis runs essentially the same offense that Todd Haley does/did.

Sure doesn't look like the same plays we were using last year, but don't let the video record stifle your ignorance.

Haley used the left over play book from Gailey with modifications.

I'm not a professional scout, but if I can see that what the F is wrong with you?

This is where you get your dumbass back.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-17-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7180867)
Get you're facts straight. At least it makes you're argument more believeable. Does it piss you off that "noone notices." I laugh at you now and in person. You ate too many paint chips as a child.

This retort literally makes no sense. My facts could not be straighter. Watch the ****ing play, dumbass.

CrazyHorse 11-17-2010 09:32 PM

Hey look everybody, the haters have another one on the hook. Looks like another night (and a couple of days likely) of the same crap retold once again. The same arguements about the same plays about the same person. Surely they will make some ground this time.

Like it makes a difference.

Ah yes, marijuanna does that to people.

Find some women fellas, jesus.


Disclaimer:
FTR, I dont think he's the answer either. But just spend my time on other things besides hating on people wishing them dead because they aren't the football player I would like to have.

Brianfo 11-17-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7180869)
This retort literally makes no sense. My facts could not be straighter. Watch the ****ing play, dumbass.

It is so obvious that Matt Cassel ****ed you're girlfriend in high school. You have been butt sore about him all year. You have been completely wrong. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hamas=Fail.


Green is not a color that you wear very well!!

milkman 11-17-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180862)
Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

What you can't seem to get through that thick skull of yours is that many of us, myself included, are not calling for his repacement at this very minute.

I've said more than once that Croyle is not a solution.

We are simply discussing his shortcomings and why he needs to be replaced at the end of the season.



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Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.
And no one has said he's the only problem.
He is, however, the most important problem.

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How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?
His salary after this season is not guaranteed, so we don't have to write off his salary.
He gets cut before his roster bonus comes due, he's not owed a damn thing.

[qoute]It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.[/quote]

No one is ready to throw away this season.
We want to see thsi team build on this season, which includes not only finding a better QB, but also improving the O-Line further, improving the receiver's, the NT position and finding another pass rusher.

After which, we can hopefully add depth.

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You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.
Again, I am discussing what I see as a need.

I don't give a rat's ass that you aren't interested in discussing it.

And that is essentially what all of your posts amount to.
Cassel is our QB, so why talk about his shortcomings?

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7180879)
It is so obvious that Matt Cassel ****ed you're girlfriend in high school. You have been butt sore about him all year. You have been completely wrong. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hamas=Fail.


Green is not a color that you wear very well!!

You add exactly nothing to this place. Go away.

MadMax 11-17-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180862)
Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.

How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?

It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.

You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.




I read a lot here, but WTF did you Say ????

Bewbies 11-17-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180760)
I didn't say he was a top 10 QB. The NFL ranking system has him at #9.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...0/seasontype/2

Here's one that will make you feel better about yourself.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/playerrankings

What?

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180564)
5-4 record and #9 on the top 10 list of QB's in the league. Shitty? I suggest that your opinion falls short of being accurate.

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180569)
Then I agree, the people are talking on emotions and not in reality.

In reality Cassel is in the top 10. In reality the Chiefs are better now than they have been in at least the last 2 years and maybe as many as 5 years.

I do disagree with the 2nd year of the rebuild. Cassel is in his second year with the Chiefs but he is working with his third offensive coordinator. Gailey, Haley and now Weis.

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180597)
You would lose that bet, but don't let facts deter you.

Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 153 96 62.7 1350 8.82 88 11 0 15 115.1 225
2 David Garrard, QB JAC 180 125 69.4 1440 8.00 52 15 7 17 104.9 180
3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 329 215 65.4 2944 8.95 59 19 8 22 102.9 327
4 Tom Brady, QB NE 304 196 64.5 2176 7.16 65 17 4 13 98.8 242
5 Vince Young, QB TEN 140 81 57.9 1090 7.79 71 10 3 12 97.6 136
6 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 158 99 62.7 1304 8.25 53 9 4 12 97.1 261
7 Kyle Orton, QB DEN 350 217 62.0 2806 8.02 71 16 5 21 96.4 312
8 Tony Romo, QB DAL 213 148 69.5 1605 7.54 69 11 7 7 94.9 268
9 Matt Cassel, QB KC 267 158 59.2 1881 7.05 53 16 4 15 94.5 209
10 Peyton Manning, QB IND 386 248 64.2 2663 6.90 73 16 4 12 93.9 296

Cassel is not as bad as you think. What are you going to do if he does happen to get the Chiefs into the playoffs? or further?

Basically my point is that none of the people proclaiming to know what is going on doesn't have a clue. If they did I'm sure they wouldn't sitting their ass talking shit on the internet.

You spend a lot of time pointing out a guy is a top 10 QB for never saying he's a top 10 guy. I know if I think the guy isn't top 10 I'm sure going to spend a lot of time showing everyone why he is.

And people thought I was you. LMAO

You are so secure in Cassel you can't even take time to tell us who you think is a better QB. I'm going to take that as you think he's the best QB in the league. Dumbass.

milkman 11-17-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180868)
Sure doesn't look like the same plays we were using last year, but don't let the video record stifle your ignorance.

Haley used the left over play book from Gailey with modifications.

I'm not a professional scout, but if I can see that what the F is wrong with you?

This is where you get your dumbass back.

Haley used his playbook and simplified it because of the sudden change.
And if you knew what the **** you were talking about, and also paid attention to the changes last year, and the reason for those changes, you'd know this.

Haley and Weis both are deciples of the Earhardt-Perkins system.

Weis is simply expanding the playbook.

southbeachtraitor 11-17-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 7177926)
What it takes:

1) Must be drafted by Chiefs
2) Must carry team on back
3) Must have strong arm to throw bombs, otherwise will get ripped for girly throws
4) Must win multiple Super Bowls, or at least not rip KC restaurants


5)Must have dog fighting ring and be arrested with jail time.

Norman Einstein 11-17-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180907)
Haley used his playbook and simplified it because of the sudden change.
And if you knew what the **** you were talking about, and also paid attention to the changes last year, and the reason for those changes, you'd know this.

Haley and Weis both are deciples of the Earhardt-Perkins system.

Weis is simply expanding the playbook.

Whatever you want to believe.

The system might have the same base, but even Weis said in the KC Star before the season that the system would be different from last season.

You really should use spell checker when you are mad. When you don't you look like a dumbass - whoa, too late, eh

Norman Einstein 11-17-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7180904)

You are so secure in Cassel you can't even take time to tell us who you think is a better QB. I'm going to take that as you think he's the best QB in the league.

Once again, I'm not going to try to create a dream team in KC. We don't have access to anyone but the current three on the roster and any other has beens that are floating around.

Why whine about what we don't have and can't get?

I never said you were me, I know better. Even more-so now.

Bewbies 11-17-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180996)
Once again, I'm not going to try to create a dream team in KC. We don't have access to anyone but the current three on the roster and any other has beens that are floating around.

Why whine about what we don't have and can't get?

I never said you were me, I know better. Even more-so now.

I'm sure Herm was the best coach ever while we had him. And King Carl was the best GM in the world until he resigned.

Your and idiot.

Norman Einstein 11-17-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7181002)
I'm sure Herm was the best coach ever while we had him. And King Carl was the best GM in the world until he resigned.

Your and idiot.

You don't know shit. Herman was a piece of shit from day one. CP had his time but outlived his usefulness.

You can carry this argument on by yourself, I'm not wasting my time.

milkman 11-17-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7180989)
Whatever you want to believe.

The system might have the same base, but even Weis said in the KC Star before the season that the system would be different from last season.

You really should use spell checker when you are mad. When you don't you look like a dumbass - whoa, too late, eh

Who's mad?

And looking like a dumbass to you, a guy that's too stupid to keep a cool enough head to keep himself from getting banned repeatedly.......well, let's just say, it ain't breakin' my heart.

patteeu 11-18-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180718)
I was just going to read through the thread from the last post, but I had to stop here and comment.

We don't agree on much, but damn, you are smarter than this.

I don't know what you can possibly disagree with in that statement. It's undeniable.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2010 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7180842)
This guy makes Smed look like Sherman Alexie.

LMAO

He really is a minor turd in the toilet of life.

Man, the "Cassel Hopers" are SO ****ing pathetic. Don't see shit, can't see shit, won't see shit, just like those three ****ing monkeys of "See No".

Utterly ****ing pathetic. Please die. Go away. The ignorance hurts my head.

Norman Einstein 11-18-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7181036)
Who's mad?

And looking like a dumbass to you, a guy that's too stupid to keep a cool enough head to keep himself from getting banned repeatedly.......well, let's just say, it ain't breakin' my heart.

In answers, you are mad.

You have no clue as to what precipitated my activity before. The people involved are no longer here. Besides, what does that have to do with the current discussion? NAFT dumbass.

Norman Einstein 11-18-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7181246)
LMAO

Man, the "Cassel Hopers" are SO ****ing pathetic. Don't see shit, can't see shit, won't see shit, just like those three ****ing monkeys of "See No".

Utterly ****ing pathetic. Please die. Go away. The ignorance hurts my head.

Have you ever considered:

Man, the "Cassel Haters" are SO ****ing pathetic. Don't see shit, can't see shit, won't see shit, just like those three ****ing monkeys of "See No".

Utterly ****ing pathetic. Please die. Go away. The ignorance hurts my head.

Your side of the argument is exactly the same precept except you hate with out reason and those that are willing to be patient to see if he can step it up have overcome the hate factor that obviously you have not.

So what, you don't like Cassel. Who you going to replace him with? Anyone.... Anyone .... Anyone ....?

I didn't think you had an answer.

Let me ask you this, do you watch the games and yell at the Chiefs because of Cassel or do you root for the Chiefs?

Rausch 11-18-2010 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7181348)

Let me ask you this, do you watch the games and yell at the Chiefs because of Cassel or do you root for the Chiefs?

Both.

In fact usually one and then the other...

Norman Einstein 11-18-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7181357)
Both.

In fact usually one and then the other...

I yell at the other team and the oficials. I'm a homer, I turn a blind eye to the mistakes in a game, it bothers me not to get the TD, First Down, or a completed pass but I just don't go ballistic like some here seem to.

I especially don't single out the QB and say much. Most admit he isn't doing everything we want, but he is doing far more than the QB's since DV left. I have the option like everyone else. I'm more of a positive believer, like the glass is half full, some of the naysayers believe the glass is empty and that bothers me more than anything to do with the team.

Like I said, I'm a homer and don't get the hate concept for my team. Hate the Raiders? Yes. The Bronco's? Yes. Chargers? Yes. And as always the Cowboys, my favorite team is the Chiefs and anyone kicking the shit out of Dallas.

Chiefshrink 11-18-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7180758)
You couldn't be more clueless if you were s deaf mute.

Nice comeback, dumbass:thumb:

I have been on the "wait and see" bandwagon for quite awhile but have recently jumped off when Castle could barely muster 13pts to defeat Buffalo in OT in our own house.

Truth hurts but this is how Pioli/Haley see Castle in many respects, "A rookie" who has shown big potential when the talent is around him. However, I believe now this 2nd half of the season will be the telltale if Cassel will be the future IMO.

And the bigger question will be if Cassel has a true melt down the rest of this season will Pioli be a big enough man to replace him, or will Pioli's ego try to force a square peg in a round hole?

Quite frankly I feel that Cassel got psychologically f'd last yr and is really struggling to trust what is around him and has developed happy feet and a happy arm. Can he recover this 2nd half of the season to show he is the future of the Chiefs? Time will tell but I say probably not.

Bewbies 11-18-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7181006)
You don't know shit. Herman was a piece of shit from day one. CP had his time but outlived his usefulness.

You can carry this argument on by yourself, I'm not wasting my time.

You can defend Cassel all you want, but why waste the time? Clearly you don't like him either.

Fish 11-18-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7181385)
I'm a homer, I turn a blind eye to the mistakes in a game...

I especially don't single out the QB and say much. .
.
.
.

That pretty much sums it up.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7181348)
So what, you don't like Cassel. Who you going to replace him with? Anyone.... Anyone .... Anyone ....?

I didn't think you had an answer.

Let me ask you this, do you watch the games and yell at the Chiefs because of Cassel or do you root for the Chiefs?

At this point, I'd replace him with a juggs machine in a wheel barrow navigated by KnowMo.

Norman Einstein 11-18-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7181580)
You can defend Cassel all you want, but why waste the time? Clearly you don't like him either.

Look at it like this, it's the middle of winter and you have one pair of shoes that looks like shit and you want new ones but you can't get any until the middle of January. You going to throw them away, even though they are functional? At this point in time regardless of how you feel about the QB, he is what we have and there isn't anyone out there to put in the game.

He is playing well enough so that the team is most likely going to finish 8-8 or better. Far better than we did last year, the year before and the year before that.

He may not get to a point that I think he can get to as a professional, but I also know he is miles better than you give him credit for.

Kick off those shoes and traipse around until January 15th and get back to me regarding how it worked out for you.

Norman Einstein 11-18-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7182465)
At this point, I'd replace him with a juggs machine in a wheel barrow navigated by KnowMo.

That just shows how smart you are, which is not very. Why don't you come back once you figure that water is wet.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7182480)
That just shows how smart you are, which is not very. Why don't you come back once you figure that water is wet.

ROFL

milkman 11-18-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7181191)
I don't know what you can possibly disagree with in that statement. It's undeniable.

There's a 7-11 about 3/4 mile from my house.
It's downhill all the way.

If I get into my car and it doesn't start, I can just release the brake, put it into neutral and let roll me down the hill to the 7-11.

It works good enough to get me there.

That's the equal to Matt Cassel doing the job well enough to win.

DeezNutz 11-18-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7182880)
There's a 7-11 about 3/4 mile from my house.
It's downhill all the way.

If I get into my car and it doesn't start, I can just release the brake, put it into neutral and let roll me down the hill to the 7-11.

It works good enough to get me there.

That's the equal to Matt Cassel doing the job well enough to win.

I thought everywhere you went was uphill?

milkman 11-18-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 7181479)
Nice comeback, dumbass:thumb:

I have been on the "wait and see" bandwagon for quite awhile but have recently jumped off when Castle could barely muster 13pts to defeat Buffalo in OT in our own house.

Truth hurts but this is how Pioli/Haley see Castle in many respects, "A rookie" who has shown big potential when the talent is around him. However, I believe now this 2nd half of the season will be the telltale if Cassel will be the future IMO.

And the bigger question will be if Cassel has a true melt down the rest of this season will Pioli be a big enough man to replace him, or will Pioli's ego try to force a square peg in a round hole?

Quite frankly I feel that Cassel got psychologically f'd last yr and is really struggling to trust what is around him and has developed happy feet and a happy arm. Can he recover this 2nd half of the season to show he is the future of the Chiefs? Time will tell but I say probably not.

Cassel was sacked more in '08 with the Patriots than he was in '09 with the Chiefs.

Scott Pioli brought him here because he had NFL experience.

He brought him here because he thought he could hit the ground running.

He didn't see him as rookie.

milkman 11-18-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7182885)
I thought everywhere you went was uphill?

Only if I'm walking.

Bewbies 11-18-2010 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7182475)
Look at it like this, it's the middle of winter and you have one pair of shoes that looks like shit and you want new ones but you can't get any until the middle of January. You going to throw them away, even though they are functional? At this point in time regardless of how you feel about the QB, he is what we have and there isn't anyone out there to put in the game.

He is playing well enough so that the team is most likely going to finish 8-8 or better. Far better than we did last year, the year before and the year before that.

He may not get to a point that I think he can get to as a professional, but I also know he is miles better than you give him credit for.

Kick off those shoes and traipse around until January 15th and get back to me regarding how it worked out for you.

You're literally reeruned. Forrest Gump would point at you and laugh.

People here may be tired of Cassel, but nobody here thinks we have a better option this year. This is why we speak of drafting a QB to replace him. Not having another option this year does not make a franchise QB. As we've all learned, a $60,000,000 contract does not a franchise QB make.

Naming someone you'd rather have is more like debating authors. Some folks like old school Clancy, others prefer that vampire shit girls are reading today. If you asked someone who was a better writer they wouldn't say, "well, in my lap I have The Berenstein Bears and I'm too lazy to worry about what else is on the bookshelves. So I'll say this picture book is the best."

Idiot.

Norman Einstein 11-19-2010 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7182955)
You're literally reeruned. Forrest Gump would point at you and laugh.

People here may be tired of Cassel, but nobody here thinks we have a better option this year. This is why we speak of drafting a QB to replace him. Not having another option this year does not make a franchise QB. As we've all learned, a $60,000,000 contract does not a franchise QB make.

Naming someone you'd rather have is more like debating authors. Some folks like old school Clancy, others prefer that vampire shit girls are reading today. If you asked someone who was a better writer they wouldn't say, "well, in my lap I have The Berenstein Bears and I'm too lazy to worry about what else is on the bookshelves. So I'll say this picture book is the best."

Idiot.

My original opinion of you was that you were a total ass. Looks like I was right.

Keep fantasizing about another QB in KC and then watch the rest of the games. What you will see is Cassel the rest of this year, dump him for Croyle and he will be back in a week. Bring in someone off the street and he will be back in a week. The only way Cassel is not the Chiefs QB the rest of this year will be due to injury.

You dipshits just don't understand that what you have is what you have. All the wishing in the world isn't going to change that. If you believe all of the bitching about Cassel is going to help the situation you are ****ed up.

milkman 11-19-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7183224)
My original opinion of you was that you were a total ass. Looks like I was right.

Keep fantasizing about another QB in KC and then watch the rest of the games. What you will see is Cassel the rest of this year, dump him for Croyle and he will be back in a week. Bring in someone off the street and he will be back in a week. The only way Cassel is not the Chiefs QB the rest of this year will be due to injury.

You dipshits just don't understand that what you have is what you have. All the wishing in the world isn't going to change that. If you believe all of the bitching about Cassel is going to help the situation you are ****ed up.

My original opinion of you was that you are a total ****ing moron.
I was definitely right.

He says in the post you quoted, you dumbass, that nobody here thinks we have a better option this year.

You are telling him something he already knows.

JFC, how difficult is that for you to understand?

patteeu 11-19-2010 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7182880)
There's a 7-11 about 3/4 mile from my house.
It's downhill all the way.

If I get into my car and it doesn't start, I can just release the brake, put it into neutral and let roll me down the hill to the 7-11.

It works good enough to get me there.

That's the equal to Matt Cassel doing the job well enough to win.

If you get there, you're right, your car is good enough to get you there. "Well enough to win" and "super fantastic" aren't synonymous. You seem to be equating the two. The defense has played well enough to be 7-2, but that doesn't mean they've been the '85 Bears for 7 games this year.

milkman 11-19-2010 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7183231)
If you get there, you're right, your car is good enough to get you there. "Well enough to win" and "super fantastic" aren't synonymous. You seem to be equating the two. The defense has played well enough to be 7-2, but that doesn't mean they've been the '85 Bears for 7 games this year.

No, I'm not equating the two.


The car didn't get me there.
Gravity did.

The tires didn't blow out, so that part of the car did it's job, but the engine didn't, and now when I want to get back up the hill, my car won't get me home.

Cassel didn't get us to 5 wins, the team did, in spite of the fact Cassel doesn't work.

patteeu 11-19-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7183245)
No, I'm not equating the two.


The car didn't get me there.
Gravity did.

The tires didn't blow out, so that part of the car did it's job, but the engine didn't, and now when I want to get back up the hill, my car won't get me home.

Cassel didn't get us to 5 wins, the team did, in spite of the fact Cassel doesn't work.

Sorry milkman, your definition of "good enough" is bankrupt, IMO. Being good enough to get to the convenience store and being good enough to get back home are two different things.

milkman 11-19-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7183259)
Sorry milkman, your definition of "good enough" is bankrupt, IMO. Being good enough to get to the convenience store and being good enough to get back home are two different things.

Fail.

The car didn't do it's job getting me to the 7-11.
If the car did it's job, the engine would have started.

The car is not designed simply to roll downhill.

patteeu 11-19-2010 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7183267)
Fail.

The car didn't do it's job getting me to the 7-11.
If the car did it's job, the engine would have started.

The car is not designed simply to roll downhill.

Still not understanding the concept of "good enough" as contrasted with "flawless" or "great" or "firing on all cylinders", huh? Keep ruminating.

BigMeatballDave 11-19-2010 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7182475)
Look at it like this, it's the middle of winter and you have one pair of shoes that looks like shit and you want new ones but you can't get any until the middle of January. You going to throw them away, even though they are functional? At this point in time regardless of how you feel about the QB, he is what we have and there isn't anyone out there to put in the game.

He is playing well enough so that the team is most likely going to finish 8-8 or better. Far better than we did last year, the year before and the year before that.

He may not get to a point that I think he can get to as a professional, but I also know he is miles better than you give him credit for.

Kick off those shoes and traipse around until January 15th and get back to me regarding how it worked out for you.

:spock:

milkman 11-19-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7183270)
Still not understanding the concept of "good enough" as contrasted with "flawless" or "great" or "firing on all cylinders", huh? Keep ruminating.

"Even poor QB play is enough to win those games".

Poor QB play is enough to win games in the same way that my failed engine contributed to getting me to the 7-11, which is not at all.

BigMeatballDave 11-19-2010 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7181006)
You don't know shit. Herman was a piece of shit from day one. CP had his time but outlived his usefulness.

You can carry this argument on by yourself, I'm not wasting my time.

ROFL You're a moron. Its called sarcasm.

Bewbies 11-19-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7183224)
My original opinion of you was that you were a total ass. Looks like I was right.

Keep fantasizing about another QB in KC and then watch the rest of the games. What you will see is Cassel the rest of this year, dump him for Croyle and he will be back in a week. Bring in someone off the street and he will be back in a week. The only way Cassel is not the Chiefs QB the rest of this year will be due to injury.

You dipshits just don't understand that what you have is what you have. All the wishing in the world isn't going to change that. If you believe all of the bitching about Cassel is going to help the situation you are ****ed up.

You're such a bad liar. I have one friend request, that's from you. And I have lots of positive rep, pretty much all from you.

So you're the guy that pegged me as a total ass yet you wanted to be my friend and loved telling me how awesome I am, just like you're the guy that posts evidence that Suck Assel is a top 10 QB but you never said he was top 10 material and you can't name anyone in the NFL who's better.

ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-19-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7182880)
There's a 7-11 about 3/4 mile from my house.
It's downhill all the way.

If I get into my car and it doesn't start, I can just release the brake, put it into neutral and let roll me down the hill to the 7-11.

It works good enough to get me there.

That's the equal to Matt Cassel doing the job well enough to win.

ROFL WIN.

KChiefs1 11-28-2010 06:20 PM

I think the CP hate will subside for at least another week.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-28-2010 07:55 PM

My ire is reserved for play-calling in the run game this week. I was actually glad when they decided to let Cassel throw the ball some.
And Succop, Special Teams, and whoever the **** is "snapping" that ball get a big Aunt Jemima bitch-slap.


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