Sucks for Orton... he is a good guy, took the benching well and right when you think things will go well by being released and picked up by a contender... BAM ... just like Lucy yanking that ball away from Charlie Brown.

he never could find time to play them when he was young either. so he's also a non athletic piece of sh*t, in addition to eshwing actually watching the games.

ESPN sure knows how to pick qualified people for their positions, don't they?

For as good of a TE as Gonzo is, this was a selfish move on his part.

I think he was one of the things that needed to change to win a championship. I hope he wins one in Atlanta. I like him, but the culture was one of entitlement and selfishness...not the team.

It should never be a choice between getting a personal record and winning a game.... no matter how insignificant the game is.

I hear Charlie Brown likes getting his balls yanked.

Good grief. That's about all I can say.

He is being talked about on a message board.

Mission accomplished.

So does he start against the Steelers?

Great he will take cassel's job eventually. Sad but true

We'll probably have to deal with Failco for the next couple of weeks. My question will be is Orton going to be inactive while he learns the offense, or are we moving Stanzi back to inactive?

I will say this... I wasn't interested in him going to CHI and then starting in their game @ Denver in a few weeks.

Now you are thinking like a Chiefs GM.

Wow so pathetic.
I am now fully on the fire pioli, Haley wagon. Sign me up Hamas and otwp. I want to jointhe hate all things chiefs now.

This is a.complete joke.

I'm trying desperately to see why everyone's so upset about this move.

Cassel? Out for the year.

Palko? Has had only 1 regular season start in a four year career.

Ricky Stanzi, for all the hope we've heaved upon his shoulders...
1. Was unable to benefit from a full off-season program.
2. Has been inactive most of the season.
3. Was a mid-round pick who most thought to be a project anyway.

I'm really trying to understand how Orton complicates anything.
The FO knows now whether they were planning to draft a QB early come April. Either they'll proceed with that plan...or they never had that intention to begin with.

We'd rather tank the season and reerun the growth of players like Baldwin, Asamoah and Hudson on the chance that MAYBE Pioli has a guy like Griffin on his radar?

I don't get it. Help me understand.

All the haters don't get it. It's called rent, not buy. Look at the draft pick, not the direct acquisition. Cobblepot didn't **** up this opportunity.

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Yeah I don't see any downside to this.

If anything this makes Cassel expendable. You can and should still draft your QB next year.

I'm on the RG3 bandwagon and he's not going to high to where it's impossible we miss out on him should Kyle lead us to a couple wins. He'll be there when we pick. So we're fine.

All you're doing is getting a solid QB in for the trash we have now.

DUDE, me too. But this is CP and, yes, the sky is falling.

This is ridiculous.

I am fine with the fire Haley sentiment... but Pioli has done a good job. Not great, but good.... and seems to be getting better.

Considering the difference in number of picks and draft position, the 2011 draft was better than the 2010 draft.

And, the 2010 and 2011 drafts were light years ahead of 2009.

Orton gives them the best chance to win right now.

And, the GM should always be about winning as many games as possible.

!

Too bad they IR'd Cassel. He could have started the playoff games after Orton wins the division.

ESPN is talking about it now. They think the Chiefs got a deal. Orton is Cassel, except with a stronger arm and he's better at reading the field. His first start may be against Chicago, who also put in a claim for him.

It also says they know Palko sucks it.

This guy gets it. /Marty-Carl

Yes!

And Matt could have given us another 9 for 18 for 70 yards & 3 INTs just like he did in his last playoff game. :p

LMAO I got nuthin else.

And if Orton comes in and looks average....it will prove to them that Cassel ****ing sucks dick.

Orton is nothing more than a stop gap....if that.

Winner.

Yes it is. Especially when I post it right after that pick is made. That's my posting style.

This has Haley written all over it. He knows that if he rolls with Palko the rest of the way...he's gone. He knows he got the short end of the stick when he was given Cassel. He's going to throw Orton out there and show that Cassel was ****ing the entire offense over.

Best case scenario.

Orton shows that this offense isn't ****ing reeruned. Pioli and Haley realize that Cassel is garbage and he's let go this offseason. Pioli then drafts our QBoTF in the 1st round of the draft. Orton is signed to a 2-3 year deal. Orton and rookie QB compete in TC and preseason to the be the starter.

This is the hope...

Shitty? Assinine? Repetitive? Moronic? Ignorant? Damn, they all work.

They're nothing alike.

Orton is horribly unathletic, but he has a stronger arm than Cassel and better accuracy.

Orton is basically a poor man's Trent Green. Cassel just sucks.

LMAO

If the Chiefs continue to lose games with Orton, I hope we can stop blaming Cassel for all of Haley's inept coaching.

I tend to agree, but the move won't shield him from the consequences of:
1. Poor clock management
2. A jumbled playcalling system
3. Mishandling the off-season

oxyMORON!!!!

Lose, or if the offense keeps sucking a fat cock? W/L is not going to indict Haley if Orton puts up some serious numbers and the D shits the bed...

I'm talking about his ability to move and avoid pressure.

He's a statue.

If that happens......then Haley and Cassel should both be gone.

You people never cease to amaze me.

Let's not blame the head coach for losing games. LMAO

Now that you say this, I believe he may just be a BALLA ASS QB!

Hmm. Well, he's an upgrade over Cassel. And he'll certainly be motivated to curb stomp the Broncos.

Other than that..... meh.

You cherry-picked part of his post out of context.

If Orton throws for 300 yards a game and we start putting up 28 points every Sunday but the defense gets worse, Haley could possibly save his job.

I'm not saying he isn't to blame, he's just not going to be indicted if the O puts up considerable numbers.

He's got too may excuses at his disposal.

Goddamn man. Your inability to understand any depth in a conversation is unbelievable. No wonder videos are your forte.

It's not that hard to grasp is it?

Gif Horse has about as much insight into the English language as an apple core.

Complete fantasy, dream-land scenario...

you need to use smaller words for him.........

If the offense had been handicapped by a QB of someone else's choosing...
And the NEW QB of Haley's choosing helps improve said offense...
Shouldn't he keep his job?

Bow to your Raider Masters

Yes thats why this move was made,bye bye Cassel

Logical thought process...

Kyle Orton averages .3 yards per attempt better than Cassel over his career. YEAH!!!

We have better receivers?

LMAO

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I say yes...

I realized what you were saying.

I disagreed with it.

Who gives a shit about offensive numbers if we continue to lose.

What do you say if we finish 7-9, pick 16th and Griffin and Barkley are gone in the top eight picks?

The people who actually make decisions might.

I say "this kid could be a good RT for us"

See? We don't need to draft a QB!

Uh huh.

Orton with no running game and shoddy protection is a recipe for disaster, so I don't think he's saving Haley's job.

True Fans emerge.

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We agree!

You've given up more points than you've scored and you're exactly 2 games ahead of the worst team in your division (for the record that's the thinnest lead -- from top to bottom -- in ANY division in football). That's something you're comfortable BRAGGING about?

I guess when you haven't won the division since 2002...you'll take what you can get.

small victories.........small victories......

It would be funny if he knocked Denver out of playoff contention though ROFL

Pioli is an idiot for not trading up.

Think of it as a trade:

The 6th and 38th picks in the 2012 NFL Draft

or

Five games of Kyle Orton, the 15th and 47th picks

Which helps your franchise out more long term?

Exactly...

Sorry I guess I may have taken your quote out of context...

I didn't take your post out of context.

The jist of it was that Haley wasn't accountable for W/L performance, only offensive performance.

Bullshit.

Arent we in the ninth spot at the moment?
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13th, I believe.

I meant that W/L may not dictate his firing or retention.

Everything with you is either black or white...

There are shades of gray out there.

soon to fall.......

I think he's assuming that we lose out the rest of the season and end up with the 6th pick overall.

The NFL is black and white.

You lose, your ass is canned.

Earlier in his career he was asked to be a game manager by the Bears and to dink and dunk. His MO was that he had a weak arm. Then he comes to the Broncos and zings the ball all over the field with regular 300 yard games. He was leading the NFL in passing yardage the first quarter of 2009. His YPA is much higher than Cassel if you factor in only his Denver numbers.

I still don't like the move. Chiefs take the latest retread again. If the front office thinks we're a Kyle Orton away from making the playoffs, I want some of that weed.

so much for Orton refusing to play for KC

TV news just said he had already reported and passed his physical


not my words ...

:shrug:

I will never under any circumstances root for this team to lose in order to get a better draft pick. I get why people would, but I never can.

Damn, he got to KC quick. Get that playbook daddy! We need ya!!!

I try, but I keep finding myself rooting for this team to win. CAll me wacky...