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FloridaMan88 12-29-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8243416)
People are making way too much out of this 6 of 17 crap.

Needing to rebuild the Titans and then have to contend with Vince Young obviously meant a few losing seasons.

Also, 8-8 wins the AFC West. :D

And people forget how turbulent the relocation was from Houston to Tennessee. It was a multi year process that involved a stop in Memphis where local fans ignored the team.

The fact Fisher kept the team at around .500 during those times was a great coaching job.

ShortRoundChief 12-29-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8243420)
6 Winning Seasons
5 .500 Seasons
5 Losing Seasons

Yep sign him up.

If he won't sign let's see if Gun is available.

FloridaMan88 12-29-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8243452)
Herm Edwards has same amount of playoff appreances as Jeff Fisher.

Actually he doesn't.

Herm has four playoff appearances as HC, 3 with the Jets and one with the Chiefs.

Fisher has 6 playoff appearances as HC (all with the Titans).

Don't let facts get in the way of you continuing to be a dumbshit.

Of course you fit the role of being a dumbshit quite well.

ChiefsCountry 12-29-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8243481)
And people forget how turbulent the relocation was from Houston to Tennessee. It was a multi year process that involved a stop in Memphis where local fans ignored the team.

The fact Fisher kept the team at around .500 during those times was a great coaching job.

They moved to Memphis for 1997 and then after that they were in Nashville. It was not that big of a deal after the 1997 season.

Steron 12-29-2011 01:45 PM

**** no to Cowher. **** no to Fisher.

Reid, with McDaniels or Norv as OC and Crennel as DC

Long shot I like is David Shaw although he won't leave the college ranks this soon.

ChiefsCountry 12-29-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8243493)
Actually he doesn't.

Herm has four playoff appearances as HC, 3 with the Jets and one with the Chiefs.

Fisher has 6 playoff appearances as HC (all with the Titans).

Don't let facts get in the way of you continuing to be a dumbshit.

Of course you fit the role of being a dumbshit quite well.

I looked at the wrong number, it was playoff game appreances.

Of course you are the dumbshit that wants a ****ing loser like Jeff Fisher as our head coach.

FloridaMan88 12-29-2011 01:48 PM

Watch ChiefsCountry avoid addressing his/her/it's epic fail on claiming that Fisher and Herm both have the same # of playoff appearances.

Come on dumbshit, explain your latest example of stupidity.

Amazingly that wasn't even your dumbest post on this thread.

FloridaMan88 12-29-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8243508)
I looked at the wrong number, it was playoff game appreances.

Yeah numbers can sure be confusing.

JFC what a dumbshit.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-29-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 8243499)
**** no to Cowher. **** no to Fisher.

Reid, with McDaniels or Norv as OC and Crennel as DC

Long shot I like is David Shaw although he won't leave the college ranks this soon.

I hope this is a joke ......**** no to reid

ShortRoundChief 12-29-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8243518)
Yeah numbers can sure be confusing.

JFC what a dumbshit.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

I would think it would be hard to call someone a dumbshit while praising the notion of Fisher as the head coach.

FloridaMan88 12-29-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 8243524)
I would think it would be hard to call someone a dumbshit while praising the notion of Fisher as the head coach.

Those who make dumbshit statements such as this:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...2&postcount=96

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All the more reason an average quarterback and an elite defense could work.
Have no room to talk.

BoneKrusher 12-29-2011 03:05 PM

Not a Fisher fan here but hey i'll take anyone over Haley even RAC

philfree 12-29-2011 03:13 PM

My take on Fisher is that wether or not you think he was a good HC or not after 16 years in one HC job he's done. He doesn't have anything left in the tank. So while I respected Fisher as a HC no thanks.

notorious 12-29-2011 03:16 PM

I weep for the future of this franchise.

Jeff ****ing Fisher. :facepalm:

ShortRoundChief 12-29-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8243677)
Those who make dumbshit statements such as this:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...2&postcount=96



Have no room to talk.

Thought the Giants did pretty well with Eli under center. What do I know.

Steron 12-29-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8243519)
I hope this is a joke ......**** no to reid

Yeah, you're right. :rolleyes: I would hate to have a coach who has 9 winning seasons, 2 losing seasons, and 1 season of 8-8 as the HC. Not to mention 10-9 in the play-offs with 1 Super Bowl appearance. Would be better than anything we've had in a long time.

Hammock Parties 12-29-2011 03:25 PM

Titans fans chiming in

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Pro: There's no coach better working with the media and fans. He's a charmer with a good sense of humor. You'll get a good coaches show with him.

Con: He can talk for an hour and say nothing. You can search the term "Fisherspeak" here and get some ideas of what I mean. The man is vague. "Yancy has a hammy and he's day-to-day but we may need to shut him down for a while. He's listed as questionable to play Sunday." Usually, that meant Yancy was out 4-6 weeks.

Pro: He's a player's coach.

Con: It often meant he was loyal to a vet even if a backup was outplaying him. Fisher wants consistency over a guy who can make a play but also makes a blunder. He's big about players knowing their assignments.

Pro: He believes in much of the things the Chiefs seem to like to do now. He likes to run the football and play tough defense. It could be a good fit.

Con: Many here believe his style of play is obsolete in a pass-happy NFL. He's big about limiting mistakes so he's one to play the percentages. If the Titans are down by 3 with 2:30 remaining and it's 4th-and-three on their own 45, he'd probably punt and try to pin an opponent deep, burn his timeouts and hope to get the ball back with 1:45 left instead of going for it.

I found his offense extremely predictable at times. I believe he was big on winning the one-on-one match-ups and not being innovative. He's big on winning by making the fewest mistakes. Even when the Titans had solid seasons, the style of football was often not entertaining.

Pro: Overall, no one knows the rules of the game better. The guy probably knows more than most of the refs on the field. With a season off, he'd hopefully come back energized. A big key, IMO, is that he gets a quality offensive coordinator who he trusts to give the majority of decision-making to.

Con: Make sure the job doesn't include general manager duties. Many believe his influence in personnel his final seasons here were more than they should have been and rumor has it he was big behind drafting players such as Pacman Jones and LenDale White. As part of that, he seemed to treat them differently than other players which made things tense in the locker room.

FD 12-29-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8243416)
People are making way too much out of this 6 of 17 crap.

Needing to rebuild the Titans and then have to contend with Vince Young obviously meant a few losing seasons.

Also, 8-8 wins the AFC West. :D

Please. In 2009 the Titans started out 0-6 including a 59-0 blowout, and then Fisher was forced against his will by Bud Adams to replace Kerry Collins with Vince Young, who then led the team to win 8 of the last 10. Get your head out of your ass.

chiefzilla1501 12-29-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8243512)
Watch ChiefsCountry avoid addressing his/her/it's epic fail on claiming that Fisher and Herm both have the same # of playoff appearances.

Come on dumbshit, explain your latest example of stupidity.

Amazingly that wasn't even your dumbest post on this thread.

Herm made the playoffs in 4 of 8 seasons. 50%

Jeff fisher has been to the playoffs 6 of 16 seasons. 38%

Is this really the argument you want to be making?

By the way. Cowher is 67%. Reid is about 70%.

ChiefsCountry 12-29-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8243518)
Yeah numbers can sure be confusing.

JFC what a dumbshit.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Yeah your still the dumbshit that wants Jeff Fisher and before that Josh McDaniels, Mike Martz, and Al Saunders.

FloridaMan88 12-29-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8243866)
Herm made the playoffs in 4 of 8 seasons. 50%

Jeff fisher has been to the playoffs 6 of 16 seasons. 38%

Is this really the argument you want to be making?

By the way. Cowher is 67%. Reid is about 70%.

Herm inherited a playoff-caliber team built by Parcells. After comatose Al Groh's one season, Herm took Parcells' team to the playoffs and then 4 years later drove the franchise into the ground.

Fisher took over a franchise in complete shambles (1-9 at the time he took over) and built it into a Super Bowl contending team.

Comparing Fisher to Herm would be laughable in virtually any other NFL city except apparently Kansas City.

Then again this is the city with dumbshit fans who are actually advocating for a loser like Romeo to be HC, so I guess it is to be expected.

whoman69 12-29-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8243866)
Herm made the playoffs in 4 of 8 seasons. 50%

Jeff fisher has been to the playoffs 6 of 16 seasons. 38%

Is this really the argument you want to be making?

By the way. Cowher is 67%. Reid is about 70%.

Just to make sure there is no feeling that Herm was a good coach, his win % in the regular season was .422 and he left two franchises in total disarray when he left. To compare Fisher to Herm is really a stretch. Fisher had a win % of .542 and took a team to the Super Bowl. Herm won one division crown with a 9-7 team, Fisher won 4. Herm only has 8 years as a coach because he crapped his pants wherever he went, taking teams with winning records and riding that until he killed the franchise. He had a streak where he won 2 of 14 regular season games with the Jets, and was 1-19 with the chiefs. Herm never won more than 10 regular season games in a season.

That said I don't want Fisher either, don't think he has the energy to take a team to the top anymore.

htismaqe 12-30-2011 08:18 AM

The comparisons to Herm are absurd.

Herm is a franchise killer. Fisher isn't anywhere NEAR that.

Hammock Parties 12-30-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8245055)
The comparisons to Herm are absurd.

Herm is a franchise killer. Fisher isn't anywhere NEAR that.

Fisher is a True Fan's dream.

Which means $$$$$$$$$$$$$

LMAO

notorious 12-30-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8245071)
Fisher is a True Fan's dream.

Which means $$$$$$$$$$$$$

LMAO

Damnit.


This is the best and most valid point that I think you've ever made. :(

Dexter Manley 12-30-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8245071)
Fisher is a True Fan's dream.

Which means $$$$$$$$$$$$$

LMAO


Fisher is a very good person who gets good effort from players. But he is not a brilliant strategist.

notorious 12-30-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter Manley (Post 8245126)
Fisher is a very good person who gets good effort from players. But he is not a brilliant strategist.

You just described Marty, and he won a hell of a lot more.

Dexter Manley 12-30-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8245133)
You just described Marty, and he won a hell of a lot more.


Total number of SB wins??

notorious 12-30-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter Manley (Post 8245140)
Total number of SB wins??

Of course not. TrueFans love regular season domination.

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8244147)
Herm inherited a playoff-caliber team built by Parcells. After comatose Al Groh's one season, Herm took Parcells' team to the playoffs and then 4 years later drove the franchise into the ground.

Fisher took over a franchise in complete shambles (1-9 at the time he took over) and built it into a Super Bowl contending team.

Comparing Fisher to Herm would be laughable in virtually any other NFL city except apparently Kansas City.

Then again this is the city with dumbshit fans who are actually advocating for a loser like Romeo to be HC, so I guess it is to be expected.

I'm not comparing him to herm. I'm commenting on your false logic above tha because fisher went to more playoffs that makes him more successful. If anything, that points to how ineffective fisher has been that he's been to the playoffs at a worse % than herm.

And for that matter.,. If you're going to discount herms playoff wins with parcels' team, then ou can't ignore the years he didn't make the playoffs with carl peterson's rejects. That's one sided.


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