I just don't want to get into a pissing match with the wikipedia allstar.

I'm a regular at Gold's Gym, I've been through personal training, and I've kept an eye on other training sessions. There's a reason why the people who've studied and have degrees on the subject start off obese people on the treadmill and running circuits. The calorie burn you are going to get from lifting weights cannot come close to the calorie burn you get from cardio.

Are you stronger? Are you able to run for long periods of time? I don't know this because I'm only going by your comment that all the weight you lost was due to cutting out carbs. Like I said, whatever works for you, but I'd put up a guy doing it the old fashioned way against what you're doing any time.

What are you talking about? I'm doing everything a person would do on a normal diet, including having a caloric deficit and working out. I'm just losing weight 2.5 times faster.

What I'm talking about is, "all weight loss is from cutting carbs".

I've also lost nearly 5lbs per week this month, and I eat carbs. It's not the only way to lose weight.

And I haven't read back through to see where I said that whatever diet it is that you're doing isn't healthy. If I did, I apologize. I was simply trying to say that I'm looking more at my overall health. I don't eat fried foods, and I try to steer clear of foods where more than 30% of the total calories comes from fat. I'm taking a probiotic, and a tablespoon of flax seed oil (mostly fat, I know, but great source of Omega 3) every other day.

I'm sure the no carb thing is great. Clay is right, it's not something I can do long term. If I can't do it long term, then I'm not going to do it. Why? Because my ultimate goal is losing weight AND keeping it off. I'm simply getting into the habit of eating healthy foods now.

Oh, and also trying to steer clear of processed foods.

I'm not always to the letter. If I goof up, then I make sure I only goof up the once. I'll also be supplementing exercise in, which will help with the times that I goof up.

I've lost 67 lbs of fat and I've been doing this diet for a total of 70 days. I'm stronger now than I was before.

You could lay in bed all day and eat 2000 calories of nothing but fat and protein and you'd lose about a pound a week. Try doing that with pasta, cereal, bread, and potatoes.

Link.

LMAO

There's nothing wrong with fat people doing some weight training.

It was the first thing I did.

When did I say there was "something wrong with it?"

I threw out left over wings an pizza yesterday, it was a tough day. I then wrote down what I ate and had a 1400 calorie day.

I suggest your read this
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/keto.htm

This
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...iAx1IEUYM/edit

This
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

This
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=3407406

This
http://fitnessblackbook.com/dieting_...e-weight-gain/

This
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...t-loss-qa.html

I can keep listing more if you want me to...I have a job interview to go to right now. Then I am going to work until 4.

Talk to you later.

You said fat people shouldn't weight train.

When?

Good luck to you all.
chiefzilla-167????

You said "when you've lost a bunch of weight you can even start using these."

Wrong. You should use them immediately. Pick up a ****ing weight and go for it, fatty. You have nothing to lose.

That doesn't say "fat people should not use weights," dumbass.

If you are morbidly obese you should stick to cardio in the beginning.

If you are interested in building muscle you should start weight training when you are still a little fat. But the calorie burn you get from weight training does not come close to cardio in the fat shredding category.

Yep. Nothing but pounds.

Never disagree with that,nothing but nothing is as good as physical exercise,however,an eating plan combined with that is much faster.

Wrong.

You're a ****ing idiot. But that goes without saying.

No, you're a ****ing idiot.

There's literally no downside for an obese person lifting weights.

I'm so glad no one pays you for your insight on losing fat.

You're one dumb mother****er.

Get back to me when obese people can complete an intense weight lifting workout.

OK, here I am, getting back to you.

I was 310 pounds and completed intense lifting workouts when I first started getting fit.

I'm sure.

Were you starving yourself at the same time? More solid advice.

Have you ever watched a single episode of the biggest loser?

Intense weightlifting, from the very start.

No, I was eating healthy.

You are the dumbest mother****er in this thread.

No, there's no reason not to start lifting immediately as long as it's done right.

No one here advocates "Starving" right? I've never seen a "Fast" go beyond a day or two. People are just pussies if they can't "Fast" and then they cry "OMG I CAN'T STARRRVE MYSELF" well dickbags Jesus did it, and he was ****ing awesome!

Funny. I'm skipping through a full episode of week one right now.

They seem to be doing a lot of circuits and treadmills.

OK, whatever.

You still haven't come up with one single reason why an obese person can't benefit from weightlifting.

Just start slow.

If you eat things that make you sick, like ramen noodles, you will puke and lose weight. It works.

LMAO

cardio is cool, weightlifting is cool, low-carb is cool in the right circumstances, everyone pls chillax

No person who is attempting to improve their life should be made to feel bad about it. If it works for you, then it works.

There's no doubt that I'm losing weight because I'm limiting my daily calories. It's my daily exercise, however, that makes it easier to look in the mirror every day, and makes me feel very good about what I'm doing.

Either there is a ****ing awesome guy named Dickbags Jesus, or you left out some punctuation.

I'm having no problems eating right at meal time. My problem is snacking. I need advice on smart snacking. Yes, I'm eating bananas, pears, a hand full of unsalted, unroasted almonds and drinking water daily. I really would like to have something that will tide me over to mealtime .

276.8

I had a hell of a day yesterday and ended up only eating 5 slices of bacon for breakfast and a slice of beef jerky for lunch.

So close to my lowest weight in the past 5+ years or so.

Nuts/seeds.

Pick up some sunflower/pumpkin seeds.

If you are looking for something with more substance then start eating 5-6 small meals a day instead of 3.

EDIT: Also, make sure you are drinking lots of water. Sometimes the feeling of hunger can be "cured" by drinking. You should be drinking 50-70% of your total body weight in oz. of water, daily.

I absolutely love my raw almonds as a snack. This morning, I'm having a Cascadian Farm Organic granola bar. This one is vanilla chip, and it's made with whole grain. I also sometimes have a yogurt.

Didn't you tell me starvation diets aren't good? :p

Or, actually, did I read that somewhere?

Either way, I'm just giving you crap, so please don't argue with me.

I think you commented in that other thread I had.

I had a shitty day yesterday and when it was over I just wanted to sleep so I skipped dinner.

Unsweetened Almond Milk and Protein Powder for breakfast. Yum.

FYP

That's what I do for breakfast as well. I'm doing Spiru-tein Smoothies with Unsweetened Almond Milk. LOVE them!

I understand. Sorry about arguing with you yesterday.

I have some Unsweetened Almond milk too.

Vanilla flavor. I can only stand so much before I start tasting the almonds.

This movie is a great watch.

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It should still be on Netflix Instant Stream.

:rolleyes:

Fats don't make us fat? ANYTHING makes us fat if we have too much. It's not just a carbohydrates vs. fats war. It's consuming less calories than you burn. If you take everything in moderation, you'll be fine. Go ahead and keep eating your foods high in saturated fats. Your heart will thank you in 20 years. ;)

But please. Knowing that not everyone can/will do that, would you stop shoving it down our throats? TIA.

Hey, it's luv.

If it makes you feel any better, I have been steering clear of sandwiches due to bread, processed meat, and cheese. I've also limited my pasta, but A LOT. My yogurt and granola bars that I have for snacks sometimes have carbs though. Sorry to disappoint you.

Why do you come in the "Fatties thread"? Shouldn't you be a regular in the Fitness thread instead?

Don't you have some minorities to disparage on TexansPlanet?

At least you're doing some form of low carb. Sounds like you're keeping your insulin levels semi-low.

They need to sell raw Pumkins year round, freshly roasted Pumkin Seeds are an awesome snack. Though what you get for 5-6$ is probably not worth it.

To encourage the fatties, and steer them in the right direction.

Think of me as the Obi-Wan Kenobi of fat loss.

"You fought in the fat wars?"

"Yes, I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your fatties."

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_J8e0_6tVRl...Obiwan_old.jpg

Ah, okay. Gotcha.

I'm not going to coddle fatties who are doing it wrong, sorry.

I'm sorry I refuse to worship you. In fact, I'm putting you on ignore. I hear enough of you through Buck.

Your attitude sucks, quite frankly.

For the record Clay hasn't told me a single thing to say. I have studied the shit out of this and I know what I'm talking about.

Translation: I'm an immature attention-whore.

She asked, I answered.

This, exactly. There is no One True Way. I lost/kept off 80+ pounds with a low-carb diet, and a few years later I've kind of meandered my way into losing ~15-20 pounds the more traditional route, and both were perfectly valid choices for my situation at the time. I'm honestly much happier with the way the latter is turning out, but I'll never ever question someone's choices when it comes to something as personal as weight loss and fitness in general.

Low-carb is an extreme approach for weight loss that I fully support if someone is willing to do it, but even though I have enormous qualms about trying to turn it into a lifestyle I don't try to scold one of my closest friends for eating lots of meat and making (really delicious and nicely-textured!) no-carb pizza and everything because it's working for him and he's happy with it.

Peanut, what did your buddy make his 0 carb pizza crust with?

I've found cream cheese, eggs and pork rinds works well.

Yeah, the main thing I remember is a couple of eggs for the crust, but it's been a while; I can ask if you want. I seriously wouldn't have known it wasn't normal pizza.

do ask

Saw the argument about low carb diets a few pages back... I would recommend that to anyone.. A while back I was sitting at 5'11" 200 lb, and started lifting again and got up to 207 and got really frustrated. So I tried the low carb diet, and got down to 185 within 3 weeks no problem.. not to mention I cheated a lot. I also found it easier to keep the weight off when you are exercising and not pigging out on high carb foods like I enjoyed (pizza, hamburgers, spaghetti etc.)

anyone try Dreamsfields low carb pasta? http://www4.netrition.com/dreamfields_pasta_page.html

I've heard of using veggies like squash or eggplant to make a pasta substitute, but if this stuff is decent it says it only has 5 grams of carbs per serving.

I've gone low carb before and it worked pretty well, but I missed spaghetti and other pasta dishes.

41g of carb is not low carb.

That'll yank you right out of ketosis.

Just noticed that. What the hell is a protected carb? Seems like a marketing gimmick aimed at people like me that only see 5 digestible carbs.

What kind of meals did you eat when you did this? Did you have an carb reload days or just stay the course? I've tried it once before, but didn't try any reload days and had a very limited list of items I would eat and got extremely bored with it.

Carb reload every two weeks.

Eggs, protein shakes, pork rinds, meat, cheese.

Wasn't so bad.

In fact, I'm on a low carb kick right now. I just had two burgers with a slice of mozzarella on each, ate them with some frank's red hot.

Lots of different wants to prepare eggs, chicken, beef, sausage, lamb, bacon, pork, etc.

Salsa verde has 0 carbs.

41g of carbs lol.

keep it under 20, bub.

For the record

Total Carbohydrates 41 g 14%
Dietary Fiber 5 g 20%
Soluble Fiber 3 g
Insoluble Fiber 2 g
Sugars 1 g

41 g carbs minus 5 g fiber = 36 net carbs

Here you go, 0 carb noodles

http://www.julianbakery.com/low-carb...-carb-noodles/

use those instead

i'm drunk as shit good night