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Black Bob 09-21-2012 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8932972)
Again, there is not a single thing that says a player must become a UFA after receiving a 30% increase.

I suggest you read the CBA. Article 13, section 7. THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS A PLAYER MUST BECOME A UFA
Here's some more. This is Article 13 Section 3. This shit is hard to find dude...

Quote:
(b) For Preexisting Contracts, Salary and Team Salary shall be determined in accordance with the rules set forth in Article XXIV of the Prior Agreement; provided that if any Preexisting Contract is renegotiated or extended after July 25, 2011, it shall immediately be treated as a new Player Contract, subject to the rules set forth in Sections 5–8 below. (For the avoidance of doubt, if a Preexisting Contract is renegotiated or extended after July 25, 2011, the renegotiated or extended contract is not subject to the 30% Rule set forth in
There you have it loud and clear. Pioli could have resigned Carr to a new deal when he came back from the lockout. Instead, he tendered him staying with his old contracct. This meant Carr fell under the old CBA and exceeded the 30%. this meant he became an unrestricted free agent when free agency began.

Black Bob 09-21-2012 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8933212)
And apparently, you can't read a quote. Regardless of that, Carr wasn't signed nor was there any contract negotiated.

Furthermore, you may have been King of Shit Mountain over at the Coalition, but you aren't jackshit here.
Liar!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6...dwy2o1_500.jpg

Quit trying to cover your ass. You are busted.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2012 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8933216)
There you have it loud and clear. Pioli could have resigned Carr to a new deal when he came back from the lockout. Instead, he tendered him staying with his old contracct. This meant Carr fell under the old CBA and exceeded the 30%. this meant he became an unrestricted free agent when free agency began.
What the ****?

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2012 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8933221)

Quit trying to cover your ass. You are busted.
The only person in this thread trying to cover his ass is you.

JFC, you have to be the single worst poster I've ever encountered on any forum since 1995.

Black Bob 09-21-2012 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8933225)
What the ****?

Carr would have been a Free Agent, regardless of tender, because he put in five years service. The ONLY way Carr would have avoided free agency is if the Chiefs and Carr's agent had come to a new handshake agreement during the 2011 and signed it the first day of the new league year.

You're a ****ing simpleton.
More lies...

2012 is his 5th season. He still doesn't have 5 years of accrument.

No dumbass, like any other unrestricted free agent, Carr would have tested the market when he was free. There is no handshake bullshit in the NFL. The only way Pioli could have realistically signed him was in August 2011 before he offered him the tender. LIKE I SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE.


Just stop bullshitter. You've officially been black boobed

Now I'm going to go and finish discrediting the other liars who have been ****ing with me for a month.

Have a nice day.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2012 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8933233)
More lies...

2012 is his 5th season. He still doesn't have 5 years of accrument.

No dumbass, like any other unrestricted free agent, Carr would have tested the market when he was free. There is no handshake bullshit in the NFL. The only way Pioli could have realistically signed him was in August 2011.


Just stop bullshitter
Wait just a second. First off, I deleted that section of my post. Secondly, NONE OF THIS BULLSHIT invalidates what I've said throughout the thread!

Carr & Pioli COULD HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT DURING 2011! They DIDN'T! Carr walked!

What in the name of **** is wrong with you?

Black Bob 09-21-2012 12:46 PM
Nothing. The problem is you trying to be a dick. You're a liar and you don't know as much about the business side as I do. I'm done with this thread. My point has been made.

The sad part is I was nice to you. It seemed like you initially asked for help understanding so I explained it in a simple way. Then, you were a dick. I tried to explain again and you littered my user wall with slander.

If you apologize, I won't do this again. Just quit being a dick because you think it's cool.

BigMeatballDave 09-21-2012 12:47 PM
LMAO

I suggest everyone just put BlackKnobBobber on ignore.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2012 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8933248)
you don't know as much about the business side as I do.
LMAO

Black Bob 09-21-2012 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8933249)
LMAO

I suggest everyone just put BlackKnobBobber on ignore.
Fine by me pussy boy. Can't take the heat. Get out of the kitchen. :evil:

jspchief 09-21-2012 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8933216)
Here's some more. This is Article 13 Section 3. This shit is hard to find dude...



There you have it loud and clear. Pioli could have resigned Carr to a new deal when he came back from the lockout. Instead, he tendered him staying with his old contracct. This meant Carr fell under the old CBA and exceeded the 30%. this meant he became an unrestricted free agent when free agency began.
What does that even tell me? Nowhere does it say anything about a player having to become a free agent after receiving a 30% increase.

Look man, you're wrong. I get that you've heard people say it or seen it tweeted. But plain and simple there is nothing in the current or previous CBA that states a player becomes an UFA if he receives a 30% salary increase.

FAX 09-21-2012 01:03 PM
I'm so confused.

FAX

beach tribe 09-21-2012 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8933275)
What does that even tell me? Nowhere does it say anything about a player having to become a free agent after receiving a 30% increase.

Look man, you're wrong. I get that you've heard people say it or seen it tweeted. But plain and simple there is nothing in the current or previous CBA that states a player becomes an UFA if he receives a 30% salary increase.
Yeah, are we missing something? I don't see anything that says that, but he seems to be so convinced that he has proven without a doubt that it is true.

So, where is it Bob? I'm not saying you are wrong, but there's nothing there that says that a player must become an UFA, and until you actually give some info that says that, you've spent a lot of time researching and have proven absolutely nothing.


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