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Setsuna 01-16-2013 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9324083)
That's just a crazy development.

McCoy should be the #1 fantasy pick next year.
I imagine him and Bryce Brown split more than you think.

FringeNC 01-16-2013 04:28 PM
Whether Chip Kelly is successful or not doesn't change the fact the Andy Reid is a tremendous upgrade from Romeo f'n Crennel. Whether Reid is an elite coach or simply a good one, time will tell.

Brock 01-16-2013 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9325773)
Sure, he had some bad luck. And later on, he made some bad decisions in the playoffs. But part of the problem was that Schottenheimer was one of the greatest regular season coaches ever. He coached up teams with less talent, and they wound up losing to more talented teams in the playoffs.

It's easy to look at his 5-13 playoff record and have a knee jerk reaction that says he must have sucked as a playoff coach. But nobody can take away the fact that Schottenheimer was a damn good coach, no matter how much the haters want to hate.
I mostly agree, but that kind of a record isn't born of coincidence.

1ChiefsDan 01-16-2013 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9325707)
Go do a little Google research on THE DRIVE and THE FUMBLE from Marty's days in Cleveland. Those were nothing other than bad luck, no matter how much you desperately want to deny it.

And as Bo's Pelini just pointed out, it wasn't bad coaching on Marty's part that cost the Chargers the playoff game in 2007 when Marlon McCree intercepted a pass on 4th down, tried to return it, and then fumbled it back to New England. It was a stupid play by the Chargers' safety, and bad luck for Schottenheimer. All McCree had to do was knock down the pass, and the Chargers would have won the game. Instead, he turned the ball back over to the Patriots, and they marched down the field and won the game.

I'm not saying that Marty has NEVER choked in the postseason. He obviously has. But to say that he choked in the postseason EVERY TIME is demonstrably wrong.
Yes. Those individual plays were bad luck. The problem with Marty (and Herm and thank goodness John Fox) is that they play not to lose. Once you get a lead go conservative. If they would keep playing to WIN those "unlucky" plays don't matter.

It absolutely was Marty's fault he had such a piss poor post season record.

Pepe Silvia 01-16-2013 04:53 PM
Chips Ahoy!

For Philly's sake this better work out but it hasn't in the past. Even Saban couldn't make it in the NFL.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2013 05:05 PM
Great hire by the eagles. They need chip Kelly for the same reason we need Andy Reid.

I would have hired Gus Bradley. But this is a hire that says its super bowl or bust.

Oh, and even though it's a good hire, I still think Kelly is a weasel.

htismaqe 01-16-2013 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9325707)
Go do a little Google research on THE DRIVE and THE FUMBLE from Marty's days in Cleveland. Those were nothing other than bad luck, no matter how much you desperately want to deny it.

And as Bo's Pelini just pointed out, it wasn't bad coaching on Marty's part that cost the Chargers the playoff game in 2007 when Marlon McCree intercepted a pass on 4th down, tried to return it, and then fumbled it back to New England. It was a stupid play by the Chargers' safety, and bad luck for Schottenheimer. All McCree had to do was knock down the pass, and the Chargers would have won the game. Instead, he turned the ball back over to the Patriots, and they marched down the field and won the game.

I'm not saying that Marty has NEVER choked in the postseason. He obviously has. But to say that he choked in the postseason EVERY TIME is demonstrably wrong.
I WATCHED the Drive and the Fumble.

I watched Lin Elliott miss a kick and Tony Gonzales get called for a PI penalty that never actually happened.

I watched Marlon McCree fumble and I watched Nate Kaeding miss a kick not once but three times in the same game.

When a team is CONSTANTLY in position to lose because of ONE PLAY, that's on the coach. Period.

htismaqe 01-16-2013 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9325773)
Sure, he had some bad luck. And later on, he made some bad decisions in the playoffs. But part of the problem was that Schottenheimer was one of the greatest regular season coaches ever. He coached up teams with less talent, and they wound up losing to more talented teams in the playoffs.
Some of his best teams were LOADED with talent. This idea that he turned a bunch of slapdicks into contenders is a myth.

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Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9325773)
It's easy to look at his 5-13 playoff record and have a knee jerk reaction that says he must have sucked as a playoff coach. But nobody can take away the fact that Schottenheimer was a damn good coach, no matter how much the haters want to hate.
Knee Jerk reaction? Hardly.

Watching him make the same postseason mistakes over and over and over again leads one to only one conclusion - he was a horrible postseason coach.

That's not hating, that's accepting reality.

htismaqe 01-16-2013 05:40 PM
It's going to be interesting to see how much Chip Kelly's offense changes in the NFL.

More than anything else, the tempo of the offense creates issues for the defense in substituting and getting lined up.

However, that offensive tempo is drilled into the players through repetition, in practice. He runs his practices at the same tempo as he runs the gameday offense.

That won't fly in the NFL - the new CBA likely won't even allow it.

okoye35chiefs 01-16-2013 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefPassesALot (Post 9325246)
Yeah because one reporter, Heath Evans, wrote a dumbass article about it :clap:

I'll withhold my judgement until I see the product on the field.
I have more respect for a former player who became an espn employee than a random trolling philly fan anyday!

The Bad Guy 01-16-2013 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9326115)
It's going to be interesting to see how much Chip Kelly's offense changes in the NFL.

More than anything else, the tempo of the offense creates issues for the defense in substituting and getting lined up.

However, that offensive tempo is drilled into the players through repetition, in practice. He runs his practices at the same tempo as he runs the gameday offense.

That won't fly in the NFL - the new CBA likely won't even allow it.
His rotations are all crazy. The NFL game day roster limits will cause this tempo to slow.

houstonwhodat 01-16-2013 06:57 PM
Heath Evans does not approve.


http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/...in-nfl-history

kcxiv 01-16-2013 07:14 PM
Heath Evens is one of the worst analysts ever. I dont have a ****ing clue why he's still employed by the NFL network. When he's on i turn it off.

milkman 01-16-2013 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9326488)
Heath Evens is one of the worst analysts ever. I dont have a ****ing clue why he's still employed by the NFL network. When he's on i turn it off.
NFL Network is a great concept, but other than games and "The Path to the Draft", the programming on there is unwatchable.

Sad really, because I just can not stomach ESPN anymore, either.

NJChiefsFan 01-16-2013 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9326510)
NFL Network is a great concept, but other than games and "The Path to the Draft", the programming on there is unwatchable.

Sad really, because I just can not stomach ESPN anymore, either.
Yes, all of it. I am not sure if you follow other sports, but I think MLB Network actually does a good job. Then again, they didn't go out and find the most well known guys just to get ratings.

AussieChiefsFan 01-16-2013 08:55 PM
They're gonna have to he paying him a shitload

Audit2 01-16-2013 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9324617)
Foles is actually a interesting prospect... Big arm, real good size but coming in people knew he was raw. He actually performed as a rookie much better than expected. He wasn't the type of QB people expected to play last year.

Btw Robert your a f**king idiot!!!
The Chiefs better stay away from Foles. The guy is a master of check downs but can't throw a deep ball with accuracy.

Rambozo 01-16-2013 09:43 PM
Chip Kelly seems like kind of a puss imo. I think he will fold under the pressure of the Philly media and fans. They will turn on him quick imo.

Rambozo 01-16-2013 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9326510)
NFL Network is a great concept, but other than games and "The Path to the Draft", the programming on there is unwatchable.

Sad really, because I just can not stomach ESPN anymore, either.
I agree.... I used to like Total Access with Rich Eisen and Rod Woodson but it has really gone downhill.

TribalElder 01-16-2013 09:51 PM
We need a poll

Chip Kelly's Eagles vs Andy's Chiefs. Who wins in the upcoming season and why

Stanley Nickels 01-16-2013 10:07 PM
Are the troglodyte Iggles fans banned now? Jesus Titty****ing Christ, reading their inane arguments was rage-inducing. I haven't the first clue whether Mr. Ephius thought Reid was an incredible coach, or the worst thing since spilling Franzia Chianti on his velour sweats.. Argue that he's just here to bash Reid? "LOL, this is like talking to a brick wall! Didn't you see my hinted implication that he's the best coach in Eagles history?" Defend Reid, and it's "Okay, brah, just wait until you lose every game ever".

Christ, I wish these mouthbreathers would take the SEPTA Express directly into the Schuylkill (that's location-based humor at it's finest; I'll be here all week.)

evolve27 01-18-2013 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9326488)
Heath Evens is one of the worst analysts ever. I dont have a ****ing clue why he's still employed by the NFL network. When he's on i turn it off.
So what you're saying is that you're turned on?

Deberg_1990 01-18-2013 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Audit2 (Post 9326912)
The Chiefs better stay away from Foles. The guy is a master of check downs but can't throw a deep ball with accuracy.
Nope, not at all




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