Blackbob sure shut up rather quickly

When I was reading this an image of John Madden and his telestrator explaining it all to me popped in my head. Except after championship he said "boom."

Maybe not Blackbob.

Maybe Silentbob.

I don't believe in this concept, often noted by coaches, at all. It's rhetorical, fabricated bullshit along the same lines as "the right 53."

When a team gets talent and competent coaching, it magically "learns how to win."

Doing some research on BlackBob and Rambozo, both of their IP's come from Georgia. One came from Elljay, GA the other Alpharetta, GA.

I actually do believe in that. People get used to losing. They start to expect it. I think attitude can have a lot to do with success, and expecting things to go badly often leads to things going badly. It's a momentum thing, once the snowball gets rolling. And I think we've been a team for a long time that always expects the other shoe to drop.

I also think the team is (and has been, since 1999) in dire need of a turn-around in culture. They've never been a team that can physically go out and just beat somebody, not even during vermeil's best years.

And I don't know that it's had a real face-of-the-franchise leader in all that time either. Trent Green was probably the closest.

He does most of the time but, so do Nassib and Dysert. Wilson and Barkley are way ahead in that area. I haven't watched enough of Glennon to know.

Geno is a high prospect because he has all of the tools to be good. He might be better than Wilson but, Wilson is NFL ready.

If you watch film on Geno, he does make one read most of the time. I'm sure someone will make a gif of him making more than one if they haven't already but he consistantly makes only one read.

Maybe it's Geno and maybe it's the offense? I don't know? What I do know is that unlike Dysert and Nassib, I don't think it will hurt Geno's stock because he has the tools.

Just saying... that's what I saw when I watched the film.

They haven't had competent, complete coaching since the Marty years, but there were parts of Grandpa's teams that could physically beat the shit out of just about anyone in the league--such beautiful offensive line play during those years...

This team needs leadership. Under the new structuring, that begins in the HC's office, and I believe Reid will provide that. Next, we have to get a QB.

Don't mistake "culture" for a rudderless ship, as this organization has been for a long time now. It's less about culture and more about gross incompetence.

I am in Georgia but I'm not in either of those places LMAO

You guys really hate that guy don't you?

Thats funny when you post at night your IP address is almost exactly indentical to BlackBob.

You have been outed douche.

And he's absolutely right about that.

I see your location is New Orleans. I also live in New Orleans. I would be much obliged if you would give me your address or your place of business so that I might have the privilege of kicking your ass between your shoulder blades. Thank you kindly in advance.

We're talking about players ALREADY on the roster just before the 2012 draft. I was specific when I said before the rebuilds happened, these teams had nothing. In which case you have to remove Davis, Avery, Hilton, Ballard, Fleener, and Allen from that list. Costanzo was pretty bad his rookie year (though certainly not his fault) and could be compared to Dontari Poe only on the offensive line. And Pat Angerer was garbage and is still garbage.

Again, I said IF the Chiefs hit on their QB. I'm not predicting playoffs next year or anything, but we're going to see that rebuild take far less time if or when a real QB is acquired.

The most GLARING hole is starting CB. We can find our solution to that in the draft in the 2nd round and beyond most likely. One or two other starters on defense can also be taken in this draft for us.

Just with those changes, we're not exactly a complete team either, but we're certainly not the 2012 Colts or the 2011 Panthers. If we draft as well as the Colts did in 2012 (and that includes hitting on our QB at #1), we make a huge leap.

That was still a finesse line. Put them in 3rd and short late in a game and they'd try to run a sweep or misdirection. Even with those hall of famers they had a hard time just pushing somebody off the line (although a lot of that was the center, Wiegmann was always 50 pounds lighter than the guy in his face). Which is not something I have any problem with at all - I far prefer that to Martyocre-style football. But it's a part of the character of the team for the last 15 years as a whole: they don't usually just line up and physically beat someone. It happens from time-to-time (we all remember the Ravens game where Ray was crying his eyes out because of the way Shields was pounding him) but not often.

Anyway, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm only saying I think you're devaluing part of the equation. There's a lot of things wrong here, and I think there's an intangible problem to go along with the talent and coaching. And maybe it's in no small part a product of that, but it's there nonetheless.

I just listened to the phone call on 610's website.

If that wasn't clear, I don't know what is. If he didn't want to be here, that call never would have happened. He made it clear that he wants to be a left tackle and that anyone who knows anything about football knows he's a left tackle. Agreed. Basically, it was the beginning of the negotiations between the Chiefs and Albert.

He sounds like he's ready to beast. Loved it.

If by right you mean wrong, then yes, yes he is.

Perhaps so.

True leaders, unquestionably, carry a presence and have a swagger about them, even if the latter is generally understated. That's been missing in KC for, well, damn near forever.

I think people are ascribing a "winning culture" to the unavoidable byproduct of high-quality leadership.

:doh!:

Don't need to watch much of the Pinstripe Bowl, what's being used as damning evidence against Geno, to realize that claims that Smith doesn't go through progressions are complete bullshit.

You shouldn't talk about yourself in the 3rd person. Bob Dole has a patent on that.

You really are pathetic, you know that don't you?

Mayock was talking from a list of notes about each of Geno's game, mentioning a game and then his notes about Geno's performance in that game. It was a regularity according to Mayock. Mayock's take was 1st round talent that is very inconsistent and usually doesn't make more than 1 read.

Its BlackDouche. His night time IPs match very very close.

Great day for the Chiefs. Wilson says he would love playing for us and Albert is fine and wants to stay.

Oh and look who the Chargers are scouting!

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBPpplLCMAA-Qd4.jpg:large

LMAO

take Landry Sd. You'll be sooooo happy.

That doesn't mean he CAN'T.

You do realize that Robert Griffin and Cam Newton rarely make more than one read, right?

Of course he did. This would mean he gets drafted #1 overall and gets a nice payday.

Well then it's settled. We should definitely use the 1st overall pick to select an inconsistent quarterback who usually makes 1 read. I suspect a huge upgrade.

:spock:

I am not saying he can or he can't.
All of the hype that has been surrounding Geno by several of the planeteers makes everyone pay more attention to any and everything said reguarding him.

People keep acting like the "hype" happened spontaneously.

It didn't.

Sign Fat Albert, Bowe and Colquitt. No reason to replace any of them. Show them the money.

Part of that "hype" is a poster just passing along information and any number of posters generally act like that poster hates Geno or that they are just an idiot. But yet more and more of the info coming out is not as positive as the Genobators and others have either presented it or hoped it would be. Like me. I am also disappointed that Geno is not attending the Senior Bowl.

Who is the chargers meeting with ?

Almost all of that hype is generated because people that at one time were very objective about Geno go tried of hearing the comparisons to Jamarcus Russell and Vince Young.

90% of the anti-Geno stuff that got posted here during November and December WAS idiotic.

Such is the polarizing nature of Chiefsplanet. It's been this way for a long time - Geno isn't any different than any of the other subjects de jour.

As for the Senior Bowl, I really couldn't care anymore. I would have loved to see him play but I'm so tired of hearing about how skipping it is going to hurt him (it won't) that I just don't even want to talk about it anymore.

Mayock said Geno shouldn't have skipped the Sr Bowl.

The games that Geno focused on his first read were ones that Austin or Bailey had a size able advantage over the guy covering them and he didn't need to go through progressions or multiple reads.

"First reads open, let's check the second, yup open too. Better go to my third read..."

Not many defenders in the big 12 can cover Tavon Austin...so that evidently works against Geno for throwing to the open man.

70 plus percent completion percentage. I guess he's supposed to pass over the open guy on his first read.

Colt Brennan had 72% and 70.4%

Good for him.

One is a 1st round prospect, the other went in the 6th.

That's why you can say you're not sure how Geno will adapt to the fact that in the NFL, his first option won't always be open but you can't knock him for staring often at his first option when he completed 70+ % of his passes.

My favorite (so far) is at 3:10 where he is about to get crushed and stays in the pocket to deliver a strike for a TD.

Colquitt, hell yes. Albert, hell yes. Bowe.. needs to show more maturity. Franchise him. Give the young man a year to prove he isn't at risk

Yeah, that's it. Our ONE recieving threat--let him go if we don't like how he acts. That is what you want if you are planning on implementing a pass first offense.

I see Blackbob is back again

But ChiefsandO'sfan had a very good point in that folks should stop trying to shove Geno stats down our throats. Tyler Wilson's stats this year is very mediocre compared to Geno's, yet he is being seriously talked about as a 1st rounder.

Bowe needs to show more maturity?

Yeah, all the off-field stuff he does is a distraction.

:rolleyes:

I'd be fine with Wilson.

I don't think I was shoving Geno stats down anyone's throats though and I think O's "point" was dumb comparing him to a guy like Brennan.

Has to be Boob....has to be.

I don't know your friend BlackBob, but a pass first offense is a stupid idea. When you can exploit a run game like we have and bolster the line in the draft, why deal with all the distractions from Bowe? The run game and a QB who just doesn't turn the ball over will create the passing game. :spock:

Fine Knowmo

In case you've missed the NFL over the last decade, it has evolved into a pass first league.

didn't anybody tell him to act like he's been there before? He should do his talking in the end zone. Of course he last saw the end zone in week 4, so he may need directions. In all seriousness, we need some vets to show guys like Bowe who have talent but are character risks how to handle themselves and be professionals.

They really need to sign Albert, just one less important cog to the offense, they won't have to wait to develop, if they have to draft a replacement. As far as QB goes, I would be happy with any of the top 5 rated QB's in this draft, as I don't think there is a whole lot of difference between them. Smith, Wilson, Glennon, Nassib, or Dysert, I think any one of those could develop into a franchise type QB for the Chiefs. I don't like Barkley, and don't like Jones, but they may surprise a person and turn out really good. Where the currant management team, plans on drafting a QB, is anyones guess. I would hope they know a bit more about the QB's in question than me, and will (hopefuly) support who they draft. I do like Smith but maybe not anymore than Wilson early in the draft, and really like Dysert in about round 3 if he would happen to fall that far.

Hi Knowmo :)

Has anyone ever told you that you're a dumbass?

I agree. Anytime anyone posts a quote from a media writer or "expert" that reflects Geno in a negative light, Geno is irrationally defended on this site. I don't believe for one second that the majority of Chiefs fans are completely sold on Geno. He's a good prospect but, it's early. There is just a weird thing going on here imo. It's like we aren't allowed to talk about any other prospects. I was kicked out of several draft threads for "abuse" today for giving my opinion. I study this shit all the time as a hobby and I wasn't abusive at all. I've decided to just start ignoring all the Geno ball washers. The shit is getting old.

STFU HATER

Branden Albert may have just became my favorite current Chief.

Again, it's not about Geno Smith. It's about QB's in general. Geno Smith is damn near a synonym for 1st round QB, that's why you see so much "geno ballwashing". When you argue with people about Geno Smith, you're not really arguing with them about Geno, but rather the idea that we should be taking anything other than a QB. Talking QB's is one thing....suggesting that the Chiefs take a LT w/ their #1 overall is another, and that is why you see so many angry posters.

The same shit was going down when Brady Quinn was coming up in '07. I would be quite interesting if some of those Brady Quinn threads could be brought back to see how many Geno fappers now were Quinn fappers then. :D

A pass first offense, designed by a pass first coach, in a pass happy QB driven league is a stupid idea? Are you serious?

Distractions from Bowe? Aside from the importing comment that was made 4 years ago, what "distraction" has Bowe been?

I actually think there is pretty much an agreement that we need to draft a QB high. I don't think anybody argues against that.

Does it matter?

So what if they were wrong. At least they had the right idea. No one, and i mean NO ONE is claiming that Smith or Wilson or any of these QB's are a sure thing.

What they ARE claiming is that at some point, in a QB driven league, you need to take a chance on one.

If it doesn't work you move onto the next one.

You are no one if you don't have a QB.

Some of you are just stuck in this mindset that you have to play "safe". There is nothing Safe about a 1st overall pick. Nothing.

But you'll never achieve greatness if you don't take a chance.

How many points is your new LT going to score?

This board needs an enema! **** whoever thinks we should move Albert to guard. The only way I'd take joeckel is if Alberts back is ****ed and he is BPA.

Uhm...yes they do. It's all over the place. I can't log on w/o seeing some stupid shit about taking a LT or LB.

Then comes the "trade down" comment....completely ignoring the fact that you have to have someone to trade down WITH.

When was the last time someone traded up to #1 overall for a LT?

I gurantee you that if anyone trades up with the Chiefs, it's for a QB.

Oh no, its easy to see that you and bob go way back... why? because he was the only troglodyte who persistently tried to imagine up some terrible flaw of Bowes.

Name the distraction, name it or belcher yourself.

Bowe has been too quiet

Who keeps putting forth the idea to move Albert to guard?

No Brock, it's gotten better.

Now it's Sign Albert, move him to RT, Draft jackoff to play LT and move Winston inside to guard.

Don't like winning playoff games I see.

We should start by winning regular season games and getting a ticket to the dance, only takes one.

300 yards rushing and we still lost.

Yet you think neglecting the QB position is a good idea.

It takes a franchise QB first and foremost. Every team in the playoffs has one.

Anyone who thinks Albert would move to guard in the first place is ****ing high. He can go get big fat LT money all over the league, why the **** would he move to guard?

If i didnt know any better, i'd swear the people who keep floating that idea are trolling.

As someone said in another thread, it makes sense that many of the people calling into these radio shows are jobless bums with only the vaguest football (or life) knowledge, they clearly dont know shit from apple butter, just have too much time on their hands.

I for one like Dysert a lot. Not more than Geno but his mechanics are solid and he can zj ng it in there with fast release but not sure of his smarts. Geno can do it all with his throwing for sure and its been written that he is not a dumbass. Dysert will rise on the boards.

Can people stop falling for the trolls? Trolls keep coming here and people still argue with them. I don't get it.

I haven't seen many people actually preferring to get a LT or LB over a QB. But then maybe I haven't been in all the threads you have been in.

We all know we need to get a QB in the first two rounds. And the trade down comments have a lot of validity with the acknowledgement that it has a big 'IF' attached to it.

I don't think it's a guarantee, but let's say someone gives us their top 10 1st plus their 2nd, plus their 1st and 2nd next year. We would be crazy not to take it.

Not that I expect such an offer to be made, but if something crazy like that happens I for one will be royally pissed at the FO for not taking it in favor of securing Geno Smith.

It'll be interesting to see how many QB's are taken in the 1st round. I think 3-4 will go. Can't wait till the combine, all these QB's are going to rise and fall. Combine is when most will get sorted out. It can't get here soon enough.

How does Bowe need to show more Maturity? He has kept his mouth shut for a few years now and has not done anything remotely immature.