This is going to be such a pile of shit, and it will still make $600+ million easy. Sad :shake:

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/ba...er-1201163390/

They've cast theater actor Ray Fisher to play Cyborg, another Justice League character. Although it sounds like he's only going to have a small role in this film.

Pretty much seems like DC is trying to play catch up with Marvel, and saying **** it let's just jump straight to 2.0.

Which is reason 2871 why this movie is going to suck balls.

Pretty much. Although nearly every studio is wanting to replicate what Marvel has done. They see the $$$ in it obviously.

Yeah they're either A. Going to tell everyone's story in one 2.5 hour movie or they are going to do what Hollywood does and B. Toss a bunch of characters into the movie and rush the time and care a project like this should warrant. You have to make a movie that the comic book fans who know the backstory, and the people who don't know anything about the character can appreciate to maximize your profits. If you assume people know these characters and you don't need to give proper time and backstory to them then you're going to have a bunch of critics and average joes and janes shrugging their shoulders like you had with Watchmen. If you just throw a bunch of shit at the wall and see what sticks then you'll piss off the source material and you'll become Batman and Robin. It's a fine line, but it feels like they're rushing it. The one thing Man of Steel had going for it was how intricately they told the backstory of Krypton. Everyone knows Batman but skimping on Wonder Woman would do a female heroine of great popularity a major disservice.

Maybe they'll do it Kill Bill style - make a 3.5 hour movie and split it into two.

And Watchmen was badass, even if you hadn't read the novel.

I really wanted to like watchmen. It wasn't bad but there didn't seem to be a whole lot of soul to it. I thought it was really awesome to look at but felt flat and was just generally long and mostly boring.

Pretty much me as well. Had some cool individual scenes, and I dig Zach Snyders style, but ultimately uneven, dull and depressing.

I'm a geek for the graphic novel, and the movie stayed very true to that. Unfortunately the story just didn't translate to the big screen well, so I get why people are pretty meh about it.

Originally that was Peter Jackson's plan with the The Hobbit but WB wanted a trilogy to milk that cashcow.

I loved the watchmen graphic novel. Which is why I wanted to love the movie...

What didn't you like about it? If you say the end..can you still contrast the two? Because when I made a statement about the change at the end I couldn't actually remember how the book ended.

I liked the Watchmen movie and thought the ending was an improvement over the graphic novel, but ultimately the problem with it was that it was released at least a decade too soon.

The graphic novel is considered a classic because it deconstructed over half a century of material and gave the industry a fresh look at how to approach the subject.

But in 2009 we hadn't even seen an ensemble superhero movie yet, so what was the movie deconstructing? Joel Schumacher's Batman? I think this is why it felt flat. Sure, comic book nerds recognized the tropes it was playing with, but regular movie goers couldn't see any depth to it. It was deconstructing a movie genre was still being constructed.

In another decade -- after at least two Avengers movies and a JLU movie -- a Watchmen type movie will resonate more with the general public. The last one was just made *way* too early.

ROFL nailed it

Are female superheroes covered under Title IX?

That's an interesting point. (I like the movie too.) I agree.

This movie gon suck... the Avengers belong together.

Batman, Supes and Wonder Woman do NOT... no kidding, I cant wait for the trailers, its going to be so bad you will puke, those are stand alone characters, mixing them together will be a joke.

Might as well call Adam West out of retirement.

PS - isn't it time to stop subbing in an emoticon for a superhero name, or anything else for that matter, c'mon mods fix that crap... if I wanted to use an emoticon, I would, please fix that.

The various Justice League incarnations on Cartoon Network were the best comic-based animated series ever done, so they can work as a group. Of course that's no guarantee it'll be the same in Hollywood. It's a miracle the avengers was a success.

I've been enjoying the Batman 75 Celebration short clips depicting the various styles of his look as well as illustrated in the more popular cartoon series runs. Only 2 shorts have been released so far .

Justice League and Justice League Unlimited on Cartoon Network were too legit to quit.

.. And pretty much every DC Animated flick featuring the a Justice League is pretty good.

That's what DC does well - TV, and animated direct-to-video movies. They should stick to it, because with the exception of Nolan's Batman series, every superhero movie they've churned out since the Clinton administration has been utter crap.

Not true. Watchmen was decent in parts and Man of Steel was great.

Watchmen blew dicks.

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THAT.

While I've never read the graphic novels, its extremely hard to imagine any other comic book movie being so true and so honestly different in its take of comic book heroes.

They were just as human as you and I, painfully so.

What was human about the blue dude with his dick hanging out?

I guess he did have a dick. That's pretty human..

Dr Osterman is a creation nearly beyond his control, how REAL do you expect an atomic/human hybrid in a comic book movie to be?

The movie went waaay off base with the original novel... but it kept the SPIRIT alive, the hero's who're basically human and fallible to all of our weaknesses.

Beating their wives etc, nothings perfect in the Watchmen, even the hero's themselves.

Whatever, dude. I hated that movie. I don't even wanna talk about it.

We'll both live through it, good night.

All of the comic animated series rock. You can do stuff with them that looks stupid or too expensive for live action.

I agree, I think it is going to fail. They can get some cameos in SvB, but it will not be like how Marvel did it, it will fill rushed and not enough of the character.
The JL is basically a couple of godlike characters facing godlike enemies. Well you have to face godlike enemies or it will seem weak.

And how do you get all of those characters that a lot of people outside of supes and batman will not have any idea of, in a 2 hour movie?

I enjoyed watchmen, dark real side of superheroes existed. Almost like Sin City.

Same here.

It was a story about people and the extremes they'll go to for what they believe is right.

There really weren't any super heroes in that - just Dr. Hugebluecock...

I don't think it will fail, although it most likely won't be as good as what Marvel is doing.

Probably on the level of XMen. the XMen movies were basically Avengers movies before all that. Multiple Superheros.
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At the time I thought the Xflix were good stuff.

They really don't hold up well over time - and it's not just due to dated CG...

I'm not a fan of the recent direction they've gone, they're making all these shows for the under 7 crowd now. Even the new Avengers series that took over for (the really good) Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The new Teen Titans shows are awful. I enjoyed the new Beware the Batman (which is about to come back very late at night to finish its run) but it had a lot of goofy shit, too. The Ultimate Spiderman show isn't very good. I've watched most of Hulk and the Agents of SMASH, but it's about as mature as you'd expect it to be based on the title...

Not that I can really complain too much about that, kids shows on a kids network being designed for...kids. But part of what made the shows in the 90s and 00s good was that they were as entertaining for adults as they were for kids. They've lost that now.

Young Justice was badass

Yeah it was, ended too soon. I think it marked what appears to be the beginning of the end. Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes was the next to go.

I keep hoping against hope that Cartoon Network will pick up and revive Young Justice on their Saturday night schedule with the other anime shows. It would be a perfect home for that series.

Watchmen is not a graphic novel...it was a 12 issue limited series (DC called it a maxi-series at the time.) It was later reprinted in single volume as a trade paperback, a collectible hardcover edition, etc.

Where do you draw the distinction between "graphic novel" and "trade paperback?"

I always looked at them as being essentially the same thing.

'Trade paperback' is a printing term for any paperback publication that's larger in height and width, often 8-1/2x11 but sometimes smaller. In comics, it usually means they take a bunch of issues and bind them together as one volume. 'Graphic novel' is the comics-industry-invented term for a fat comic book, generally of one non-reprinted, continuous and self-contained story.

That's all in theory. In practice, they're used interchangeably.

Seems the same to me- hell some of the most renowned literary works ever were originally published by newspapers as serials - including works by Dickens, Count of Monte Cristo, Uncle Tom's Cabin, Anna Karenina, The Brothers Karamazov, Madame Bovary, and the Sherlock Holmes series.

Doesn't matter if you read it in parts or as one piece...

I also seem to recall that the term "graphic novel" came about while comics were still viewed as "for kids".

I read Secret Wars yesterday and it really is interesting to see how far the art form has come since that was first released.

Zack Snyder Officially Set to Direct Justice League

A Justice League feature film is not only officially on track today, but has also announced a director. The Wall Street Journal reports that Man of Steel helmer Zack Snyder will make the ensemble blockbuster his followup to 2016's Batman vs. Superman.

“It will be a further expansion of this universe,” Warner Bros. president of worldwide production Greg Silverman tells the outlet. "’Superman vs Batman’ will lead into ‘Justice League.’”

Although no Justice League cast is official at this stage, the project is likely to again star Henry Cavill as Superman, Ben Affleck as Batman, Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman and Ray Fisher as Cyborg (with a view other JLAers expected to be announced in the future).

The article also offers a slightly less optimistic update on the status of a Wonder Woman solo film, noting that, while the studio is open to the idea, they feel the right script has not yet been found.

How about they focus on not making a steaming pile of a movie before they worry about THAT movie's followup film...

Doesn't matter. Enough saps will "love" the pile of shit they push out. Profits are king. Michael Bay would be out of a job otherwise.

Hell, Zack Snyder would be out of a job otherwise.

I didn't 'love' it, but I liked Man of Steel, enough to have seen it 3 or 4 times. This news doesn't bother me at all. Kind of assumed it already.

Ya, I was being a bit over dramatic, and not all that concerned. Marvel has seemed to figure out how to put out consistently good movies, so if DC's suck either based on word of mouth or the trailer not interesting me, I am fine with skipping seeing it in theaters.

Cool. I figured it would either be Snyder or Affleck. Affleck was rumored a few years ago.

Jason Momoa has reportedly been signed on to the cast. They're not saying who he'll be playing, but there's mention of Aquaman, which I think would be a screamingly good choice.

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/04/...Cmanual#!Iqrl0

Ok, of course that means no blonde lockes. At least I hope not, he would look dumb.

Man, they need to bring back SGA.

LMAO There are about 5 of these clips....sorry if repost

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Looks like the Batman Forever/Batman n Robin Batmobile with the backside of the Tumbler.

don't care.. show us the batsuit already!

Batsuit is here...Zach Snyder posted on twitter moments ago
http://www.slashfilm.com/new-batman-suit/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnh1D7HCMAE24tt.jpg

alright alright alright

I'm in!















Although, I was already in. :)

The Dark Knight Returns look...love it, now hope the movie is good.

Make sure you check the hi-res version: http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/s...it-2014-HR.jpg

Looks good.

I don't really like the fat boxy bat symbol on his chest.

That was my only issue as well, but that's the same symbol they unveiled a year ago, or whenever it was with the superman shield superimposed over the bat symbol. So not a big surprise.

They did it just to fit the stupid Superman symbol inside it. ****ers.

This suit is very similar to frank millers the dark knight returns comic suit

He's got kitten ears.

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Emo girl Robin with a slingshot?

Whoa whoa whoa...

You haven't read The Dark Knight Returns?

Nope. I take it that I should?

One of the best comics ever...you got an iPad?

Yes I do.

Can Afleck get even close to that big?

Probably. He had to get pretty big for Daredevil.

He was huge in The Town, as I recall.

A decade is a long time.

Damn. I need to see that still.