Nobody struggles more getting off jams than AJ Jenkins. He's a weaking. Along with bad routes, bad hands and questionable work ethic. Plus no mental toughness or focus.

He's quite a combination. LOL.

Mike Tannebaum or Pioli should be right there duking it out for the #2 spot.

I bet Joe Montana doesn't look back on his playing days in KC.

No more than he is a candidate to move to a shitty run-down apartment in Glen Park, where he'll collect unemployment checks.

Joe doesn't think much of the NFL period. He loves the game but not the league or the teams in it.

So this is basically a "our new piece of shit is better than our old piece of shit we gave up on" pissing match, isn't it?

Heh.Yeah, he may have better memories to contemplate.

Dane, lets not act like there isn't a huge difference between the NFL and some corporate desk job or a restaurant or some shit.

There is a mental toughness issue with Jenkins. He doesn't want it, isn't focused and collapses under duress.

Even tight ends have to get separation. Baldwin is a candidate for "CHUCK IT DEEP, DOG!" and nothing else.

I'm pretty sure that is exactly what it is.

LOL.

You know Joe personally?

Jerry Jones has to be up there some where.

Him and Al Davis have their own category.

Nope...but I remember different things he's been quoted as saying that would give that impression.

So are we getting anything at all out of this Baldwin guy? I'd say you will get close to nothing with Jenkins. He is so bad. Just awful. He's worse than you think (Jenkins).

He struggles with physical cornerbacks so i don't see how he will do any better inside.

Joe who?

The NFL does not have a federal exemption for unwanted and unwarranted physical assault.

If Pioli wanted to protect his first round investment, instead of a washed up turdcutter, he would have immediately cut Jones and supported Baldwin.

Clearly, Pioli was clueless as a talent evaluator and leader.

How can he struggle vs. physical CB's? He's 6'4" 230 lbs.

BUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER??

Allen was/is poorly cast as a guard. He doesn't have the base to power out of a phone booth from a three point stance. (Both Schwartz and Reynolds have looked better coming up and out of the guard position than both Allen and Asamoah have in the first two preseason games in 2013.) He really should be looked at as a RT in a zone based system. I was floored when we spent a high second rounder on him.

No...different skill set, but in the end...this is trash for trash. They both lack desire and heart.

Can we get Gochiefs to GIF up some Baldwin drops? I don't think the niner fans realize how bad he is.

Yeah I don't think we are getting much. I agree.

Depends. He is not going to have a lot of time to prove to the 49ers staff that he is worth keeping around. A tall hill to climb.

Boldin is a lock, Chad Hall is a lock, Austin Collie is a lock, Kyle Williams is a lock.

That's four. They are probably only going to carry 5 receivers as it is anyways. If he doesn't show, he will be gone. They clearly like Marlon Moore, he has been getting a ton of run.

Bj Daniels is also another guy they use every where so if Baldwin is suspect, you could see them cutting him and keeping Daniels on the roster.

no balance? :shrug:


that's why everyone is so frustrated by his suckatude in KC

How can a guy that big and fast play like he is a 5'9,180lbs guy with slow feet?


:banghead:

Should be easy...just find a play where he was targeted. :D

You can make a GIF of AJ Jenkins NFL catches. Oh wait.......... There aren't any.......Stooges

It's not the dog in the fight. It's the fight in the dog.

He doesn't put any effort forth at all. It's like he doesn't want to be there.

A starting WR/ JD

Seriously? Steve Smith is one of the smallest wide receivers in the league, and he brutalizes people at the line of scrimmage.

There is your answer. Size isn't shit unless you are willing to use it.

Anquan Boldin uses his size to his advantage. Andre Johnson uses his to his advantage.

Jon Baldwin is a weak piece of shit, and waste of size.

In the words of my old basketball coach.

Jon Baldwin, you useless big for nothing......

ROFL

You're a clown beyond belief. I've said the second Bowe wasn't traded Baldwin didn't belong on this team as a starter.

You truly are an ape.

That can't be. It's not physically possible....:spock:

Like I said:

I'm not talking about bobbling deep balls. I'm talking about short range passes that go between his hands and bounce off his numbers.

Dude is just plain bad. Painfully bad.

Reminds me of AJ Jenkins. LOL.

Wait until you see how bad AJ Jenkins is. I think you made the difficult task of finding somebody worse.

That sounds vaguely familiar...

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and we 9er fans thought Rashun Woods was as bad as it got :deevee:

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So I guess we each got the same player with a change of scenery. Haha.

I forget the game because it was a forgettable season, but he also had that catch where he skied over two defenders to make the grab on like, 4th and 3 on a last chance drive.

Pretty sure that was one of our two wins last year.

Woods out performed Jenkins. ROFL

AJ Jenkins might be a little worse but it's close.

Weird, isn't it?

But he can't get any separation whatsoever off the line and can't get out of his breaks against any semblance of press coverage despite his prodigious physical size, strength and athleticism.

He's the Vernon Gholston of receivers.

It's all there in spades from a physical perspective. The dude just can't play football.

that's why he got traded

he has the potential to be andre johnson-ish and we just gave him away for a guy you say sucks

Just have your corners give Baldwin a good bump off the LOS and a little push with each cut and he just shrivels up in a corner and cries.

too bad really

Its terribly disappointing because he is a guy who is wasting his physical talent.

He has all the physical talent, and he has saw dust, for BRAINS.

Its the worst kind of waste.

He's only made a few big plays ever?

that's the funny thing. Anquan boldin is one of the slowest receivers in football. But, he can catch anything, and beat any kind of pressure, and make every catch in the game.

Yet Baldwin, with really a level lower than Calvin Johnson athletic ability, is just a walking dumpster.....

You are pretty much describing AJ Jenkins style of play too believe it or not.

Now hold on there Dane, this is 'Merica. Every citizen is completely innocent, and sheltered from internet bashings until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers. Let's not overreact here.

It's great that both teams get to trade a bust for a guy who is a former first-round draft pick. Great p.r. move.

Found this for Salary cap implications:

The 49ers dump Jenkins after just one season -- a rare development for a first-round draft pick. The team gets rid of his guaranteed salaries the next two seasons of $705,797 this season and $1.021 million next season.


Baldwin's salary of $1.061 million for this season is fully guaranteed. However, Baldwin's scheduled 2014 salary of $1.274 will be paid only if he's on the team.

Each get a fresh start in a new city and see if they can rebound. I doubt it on both.

Yes, but Aj Jenkins is 200 lbs with all of his pads on, and ankle weights, and a weight Jacket.

Baldwin is PHYSICALLY IMPOSING.

By my count he's had three big plays, the san diego thirty yard td, the grab on fourth down and one where he kinda caught it behind his back.

I see where you're going by phrasing it that way and i couldn't care less... give me raw speed over slow ass jump ballers.

Block Bust er.

Are you counting the one he caught behind the Bronco's back where he caught both the pass and a safety?

I know it got called back, but it was clearly the highlight of his career. That was one of the best catches I've ever seen by a Chief.

Baldwin has made a few big plays
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A.J. Jenkins is now en route to Kansas City. Will take part in tomorrow's practice.
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Alex Smith is risk adverse

He is not going to like trusting a receiver to win a jump ball. He wants to see separation.

Yep, though i'd forgotten that it got called back.

Slow down now, I'm not absolving Baldwin of all blame. Hell, I'm not absolving him of much blame.

He needed to get over it. He needed to put on his big boy pants and realize that this is the NFL and you need to suck it up and perform. Like I said, a more mature player doesn't let this bury him.

At the same time, WTF is Thomas Jones doing fighting a teammate? A rookie no less? There were a number of different theories regarding the cause and yes, one of them was that he was upset that Baldwin didn't block well for Charles. But that wasn't the biggest problem. The problem was that he took it to Baldwin and barked at him like a little kid. Baldwin didn't cow-tow to the vet and so Jones took a shot at him. Seriously - WTF? You think that's the way a veteran should operate in a locker room?

Jones could have taken that a positive direction. He didn't because frankly, Jones is a thug. He fought teammates in Chicago and again in NYJ. Jones is a bad guy to have in your locker room and perhaps had we had a good leader there, he could've actually helped develop the kid.

It's the old 'eggshell plaintiff' rule - you take your foils as you find them. The fact that Baldwin was immature is something that Jones knew and it doesn't excuse him from being an asshole. Good leaders find different ways to work with different people. Jones was a miserably bad leader. As was just about everyone involved in this coaching staff. Baldwin couldn't handle it.

But like I said - his issues getting in and out of his break had nothing to do with that so he was still going to be a poor fit in this system. I just wonder if perhaps he could've built more trade value over the last couple of years had he actually had a solid base and 2 full seasons under his belt. I think he could have.

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This shouldn't be a surprise at all. Two teams with huge busts that they were going to cut anyway just plalyed each other in preseason. Basically, the GMs got together and said "hey, lets trade pieces of shit draft picks so that we can at least save some face". Both know the guys they are getting will be lucky to make their respective rosters, but they were cutting them anyhow. Just another shitty Pioli pick down the drain. Nothing to see here.

Jenkins doesn't use his speed. He just gets jammed at the line of scimmage. If he gets bumped anywhere in the route it won't happen. He will drop passes thrown his way anyway. If by some miracle he does catch it he will fumble upon the first hit.

He's really that bad. Trust me.

I would agree with that, Jenkins should be a better fit here.

Which makes his lack of ability on the field even more frustrating from a fans perspective.

When you are that big, with that much athletic ability you should be kicking ass. However, the NFL demands a bit more than that. Go ask Jack Lambert. Or Jerry Rice. Or London Fletcher. Or Zack Thomas. Or a host of other guys who don't have the top flight athletic ability of guys like Vernon Gholston, Jon Baldwin and others, but have that will and drive and instincts. Physical skills are one thing. Desire, instincts, intelligence and drive are what really gives you the ability to take it to the next level.

now now. Its you useless tiny good for nothing.........ROFL

Trust me AJ Jenkins won't be open for a variety of reasons.

Nah.

I think we know there's a pretty good chance that both pieces of shit are equally shitty.

There's a hope that these particular pieces of shit fit better in their new bowls.

completely agree.

mostly cause a stiff breeze will knock him down....

strong post

Let's just move forward with the assumption that both of these guys will become the lords and dukes of their positions and all they needed was a change of scenery. I for one am looking forward to seeing AJ Jenkins hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and shouting out, "All I needed was a fresh start!"

That's it.