If you really must know, we ****ed last night. When I got home from the gym, I woke her up, we ****ed, she went back to sleep and I played Assasin's Creed 4 whilst smoking a couple bowls. I went to sleep a few hours later.

I'll take the bullet.

Drafting Sanchez and keeping our 2nd round pick would have been better than trading for Matt Cassel and taking Tyson Jackson #3.

It couldn't have been any worse than the outcome that happened anyways.

Gang of Eleven or what ever it was.LMAO Gayng of Eleven

Dapat mong malaman na huwag pansinin sa akin kung hindi mo ako gusto

I like frazbob though. He's so emotional and passionate about CP.

The arguments weren't wrong, and you're too smart a poster to be stupid enough to think they were. Be that as it may, I'm not rehashing the whole Sanchez thing, as I said earlier.

What you're doing is trying to cherry pick the playoffs in those two years, and ignoring his two full seasons of actual play, which is ironic to say the least:

I remember when I first started posting here, I admit I was a little intimidated. But I was welcomed in for the most part, met some great people at Training Camps and at one of Joe's Bash's.

The biggest difference I have noticed though is less camederie and more bitching at each other. My solution is get rid of rep and I think alot of that would go away.

Novaccinationsplanet awaits you.

You said there are STILL people - meaning present day - who think we drafting Sanchex was the right thing to do.

CC gave you a head start.

Now, feel free to back up your claim.

Cherry pick the playoffs?

How the **** did they GET to the playoffs? How did they get to the AFCCG TWICE in his first two years if he was such a piece of shit?

Talk about arguing the poster and not the posts.

Yeah a lot of people were wrong about Curry including me but the video wasn't really as big a deal as others made it out to be. In CP fashion it was blown out of proportion to belittle someone.

And people said he was paranoid about your man-crush for him...

Put down the video games and the weed and do it right man. It will change your entire perspective on life.

If you ****ed your wife and still had time to stay up, get high and play video games, you didn't do it for her, you did it for yourself.

That's cute. Finding common ground is an excellent step in the right direction.

This is why I have been lurking for the past 10 years. Personally, I add the kindness of Simply Red to the list.

This is still the most fun insane asylum on the net. What makes it fun is the freedom for anyone to say anything, although this can occasionally devolve into a flame war between two or three members. Well-worded insults are still entertaining to read (see Frazod's post on page one).

Sorting through the "chaff" has become second nature now. One just has to realize that any thread involving someone from Japan or China is going to have someone who STILL thinks it is witty to transpose the "L" and "R" sounds. Any thread involving race will have some wonderful, common-sense insight mixed in with a hearty dose of trolling.

I read and lurk in the Planet because it is a fun place to be. No one is afraid to say what's on their mind about any topic, pretty much free from fear of moderation. It's the American way.

What does the bolded sentence mean? How exactly was the crappy behavior not tolerated? Specifically, what action was taken that isn't possible today? What has changed that prevents the same thing from happening now?

I lurked before joining, yet I have no memory of this mysterious Utopia that old timers seem to be nostalgic for.

A complete internet gangrape.

But gangrape is a very slippery slope.

CP is just fine.

Don't **** with it.

This...

You're so invested you can't even admit something this obvious. Like I said, keep going. It's great stuff.

We have new and better methods of gangrape available to us now. Are we just lacking the organization? Have we simply become to lazy for gangrape?

She initiates it 8 times out of 10. Try again amateur.

Well that's all good and well, but to be honest, I don't think your opinion matters on this subject. See, fish have notoriously bad memories....

:D

This is why it's impossible to have a discussion with you.

Instead of answering the question, you dodge it an spit out some passive-aggressive bullshit.

Please. Answer the question.

If Sanchez was as bad as you and others made him out to be in 2009-2010, how did the Jets get to the AFCCG twice?

I think we should just get rid of anybody who joined after Feb. 2001....except Mr. Plow........and Ceej..........did I miss anyone?

yes but how many times with you?

JFC Are you dumb?

I'm feeding into the ridiculousness of the situation.

lrn2internet

You go to hell. You go to hell and you die!

CC backed it for me:shrug: Why would it be important for me to back it for you when you know it's true?

So is this where you run to after your intended line of posting went astray. Interesting.

Why don't you have a seat over here on the couch.

So how do you feel about your failed attempts at trolling/insulting me?

I ****ing hate you, douche.

But it's cool, we'll be friends again in like 3 minutes.

This thread. Jesus. Comedy gold mine. Troy as the voice of reason?! LMAO Somebody calling the planet a homer board?!? ROFL

It's not just nostalgia. Yes, noobs sometimes had it rough, yes, we had our trolls (hey packfan) and, yes, there were some personal issues (like me and john proctor; and basically everybody and denise). But this place now is like a Jim Rome board, with half of everybody trying to out-insult everybody else and then drop the mic as they exit stage left. I GOT YOU HAR HAR HAR!! There's not much discussion anymore, it's mostly just poster group a ranting against poster group b, for days, weeks, months and years on end, and most everybody seems completely close-minded on every subject. Personally, I think it's just a microcosm of the changes over the last decade to the larger society/world we live in, rather than some specific change here. The more that social media grows, the worse that social skills become (yes, I know that's ironic coming from me). Although I do think a few specific things have impacted the community here, including the fact that fewer of us know each other now in a physical sense, and that anonymity breeds a general disrespect.

But the reality in the end is that we live in a different world than we had in 2001. So yes, the board has changed. And it's not going back. If you're not happy with what it is, then find a constructive way to change it. And by "constructive" I don't just mean "purge all the people you don't like". That's what ignore is for. I mean "be a better poster" (in a general sense, not pointing out anybody in particular). All the stuff you don't like...stop doing it yourself. That's really the only way the board gets any better. Stop feeding the trolls, stop being trolls, treat people with the respect you want (if you even want any).

Basically, don't let the bastards get you down.

I think that this post is really key. If you really get to know the posting styles of other people around here, you can have a lot of fun. It really isn't that hard to know whose posts you should engage with and who you should just roll your eyes at and ignore.

When "old timers" who aren't here much gripe about how much things have changed, I suspect that it's mostly caused by less awareness of who is who anymore. Online forums are definitely one of those things where frequent visitors feel more involved than those who just drop by from time to time.

:facepalm:

Yeah, I can't imagine why someone might get aggressive when responding to this constantly.

There is no definitive right or wrong, but I do not believe Sanchez was ever good because of his QB rating in 09 and 10 (stat/fact). Saying people were wrong or right in that specific time frame is silly. It's always going to be subjective. Each side had a fine argument that was presented. QB play (rating) vs. wins.

Or he could just go to WPI. His "holier than thou, you kids are awful" persona would fit in there.

Yes, you are.

Oh, I forgot. Add J Diddy to that list.

Better?

I think we probably had a face to face conversation during one of those Bash in St. Joe, if I am not mistaken. Of course, that was a long long time ago.

I wouldn't know because I never seen or met Rain Man, and I would have no idea what his dick look like, because

A) I don't look at men and,

B) How would you know what his dick looks like?

This is a pretty fair post. We only have ourselves to blame, though. We glorified the people who could "blast" others. It was cool on here to be a bulletin board verbal badass who could lay into others, and it is a skill that some people are good at. Posting good rants is an art form.

The problem is that way too many people think they're good at it (when they aren't) and believe it's the way to be perceived as "cool" on here by your "friends."

They should realize that the way to appear "cool" on here is to claim that you're the relative of a player on the Chiefs.

Pics or it didn't happen.

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Do you feel trolled or insulted? That was certainly not my intention whatsoever. I am merely trying to help.

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Maybe if I said it in spanish?

Whose mom used to be here? Wasn't it Mikhael Ricks?

Oh the good ol' days.

Who the **** are you?

:thumb:

It is improper to answer a question with a question. Let's redirect this session. This time is all about you.

Does your lackluster posting make you feel inadequate or unremarkable in someway?

Yup. Her name was Evelyn, I think.

the debbil.

I was referring to big daddy, not you in case that wasn't clear.

I know. I've seen you trying to troll the whole thread, and I'm trying to figure out whether I should give a shit or not. Magic 8 ball says "outlook not so good".

Seriously. I even used http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

I'd say I'm doing a pretty good job so far in this thread.

No disrespect meant, but QB rating? Seriously?

In 2009, Matt Cassel had a game with a QB Rating over 110 in a game in which he threw for under 100 yards and we lost by 20+ points.

Good game, eh?

But hey, you used stats to back up your argument!

It helps to know what those numbers mean before you just jump into a discussion, yell, "QB RATING!" and drop the mic and leave.

Hey, do I get a royalty for that?

Amazing.

Follows me around for an hour, then when pressed, disappears.

Well God damned that hurts. I'm trying to help you out with your anger problems, trying to get your woman to stop beating on you and ****ing large male secretaries so you won't be all butt hurt all the time and you come back and attack me? That ****ing cuts man. I thought we were friends.

The sad part is you're absolutely correct, because if anyone knows feeling of inadequacy or unremarkable posting and could identify it in a heartbeat it would most certainly be you. That's what I've always respected about you. Your willingness to show others the proper way to post. Sure most people would be all like "hey, do it like this," but not you man, not you. You're all "I'm going to do it this way and give you all an example of what not to do." Despite your harsh words to me, I still love you man. Someday, when we all learn our lessons from you then maybe then you won't have to show us all this anger and insecurity anymore.

I can answer that one, he got to the AFCCG twice by riding the trent dilfer train.

He wasn't "that bad". He was worse.

The Jets won with Martyball...

Check your casino cash.

So you don't agree that there are people who still think we should have drafted Sanchex? Besides CC anyway. I think you believe it to be true but for some reason you want to play the prove it game. Why?

LMAO

So it is someone else fault for the way you choose to handle yourself? Really. You make the choice of how to deal with that person or handle the situation not them.

And really man you expect someone to dig bag through this board when you can't remember which thread or who exactly said it. Come on. There have been several see posts wishing we would have drafted Sanchez just to say we have. I would consider that common knowledge.

My six year old son has a word for it when he and his friends start slapping at each other like girls. They call it a "sissy fight." Probably not the most PC term, but anyway... that's what a lot of the verbal sparring seems like around here lately. It's guys who think they're really getting each other good as they're slapping at each other. To all observers, though, it just seems like a "sissy fight." It also makes the actual epic, artful rants harder to find among all the bullshit.

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Since he's refusing to answer it, I'll bite.

In 2009, The Jets defense was rated #1 in the NFL in total defense in terms of yards per game with 252.3.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1

They were also ranked #1 in the NFL in passing defense as well with 153.7.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1

They were ranked #8 in the NFL in rush defense with 98.6.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1

They also had the #1 rush offense in the NFL as well with 172.2 yards per game.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1

So in my opinion, with those stats showing, the Jets had the luxury of not having to rely on Sanchez to do anything fancy.

I think of it more this way:

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...pleFight15.jpg

Because the burden of proof is on you.

You made the dumb statement, back it up.

If you don't want to get called out, don't say stupid shit and try to perpetuate a false narrative.

People are over Sanchez. Hell, people (other than blatant trolls) are over Geno.

But some of you just keep going back to the well. And I hope you get called out every single time if you continue to do it.

A lot of people bitching about trolls are the people who take the bait every stinking time. If trolls make the board worse, bait-takers make the trolls worse. Regulate your responses to trolls just a bit and your experience will improve and so will the overall board. Why someone would engage someone who is obviously trolling is beyond me.

That's Phobia's pet troll. Isn't he cute? The future of ChiefsPlanet. :thumb:

Sí señorita

That ship sailed a LONG time ago.

He claimed that there are people that STILL feel this way.

Just like there are people in another thread currently perpetuating the false narrative that some of us "want the team to lose" so we can be right/get what we want.

It's pure bullshit. It's a passive-aggressive way of attacking posters you just don't like, instead of arguing the content of their posts.

I do. I have been waiting a very long time for them to try.

Anyone that actually thinks things would have gone the same way in KC for Sanchez, as they went in NEW YORK is an idiot. :D

OWP,

I watched Sanchez play. He wasn't good. He played better in the playoffs but he was still a ****up. You want stats/evidence because our eye test isn't good enough. Those are the stats. I could construct a better argument, but Im on miserable user right now. He was completely miserable at times, decent or above-average in others. He never overly impressed in wins. I understand some people really value those wins, but I never did. And he sure as hell didn't even win 11/14 games... but if he did, I probably would have still doubted him like I do Smith. Though Im changing my tune on Alex.

Oh, and the MS Paint thread with the Elephant shooting out diarrhea.

*Correction - PR's Dog Ramp*

I actually believe they may have gone worse here, with the disaster that that front office and coaching staff ultimately turned out to be.

There us a solution. If you have two whiny butchers that are unable to get along and keep taking their vitriol to every thread the other guy posts in, here's what you do. Mods creat a poster A vs poster B thread. The posters are not allowed to post in any other thread except that one until they either mutually agree to be civil to each other, or one of them gets frustrated and leaves forever. If they post in another thread besides their "time out" thread, they are banned permanently.
While in said thread, they are free to sling any and all forms of insults at each other, and only they can post in the thread. Eventually, they will grow up, learn to effectively communicate with others they disagree with, or leave. It's a win for everyone.

This is exactly my point earlier about everyone being forced to take a side and fight to the death. He said, quite rationally, that there is no definitive right and wrong, it's subjective, and each side had a fine argument.

Yet, you still attack his stats and force him into the "anti-Sanchez" corner with your characterization of his point.

It makes it impossible to set forth a moderate, reasoned argument. This shit is all subjective. None of it is black and white. Not every single issue has to be one side of CP against the other.

Sanchez had good games and bad games. He may have worked out better here. Maybe he would've bombed here. Based on that, which side should I be forced to join?

Bingo. This was the argument - he rode his defense.

Fast forward to the first 8 weeks of this season...


This is exactly what was being discussed in another thread - and the big issue that some of us had with some of our own, the influx of Pats fans then, and the Niner fans now:

They want to have it both ways, and then play the victim when someone calls them on it.

Bitches, not butchers

They very well could have, I agree keg.

But to say we know for sure, for either Sanchez or Geno Smith since they haven't lit NY on fire, is where I have the problem.

We don't know and we never will since our team refuses to take a chance. So the guys claiming they were "RIGHT" about those guys, are not right IMO. It is not the same.