All well-earned, IMO.

Alex has missed his fair share of games as well. And we're 3-1 without the guy.. Maybe we should think about making the switch :hmmm:

This has been one of the more exciting chief seasons I can remember.

I've enjoyed every second of it. I'm hopeful it ends in Houston in February

Why does that mean we can't discuss the next move at qb going forward?

I call bullshit. You were short on this team after week 4. You're not fooling anyone

You are being so disingenuous.

TD percentage, YPA average, passer rating and turnovers are all worse than last season.

And that's with the offensive line protecting him as well as it has since he's arrived in KC and the best weapons around him to boot.

He's also got 11 turnovers in 14 games.

With the weapons they've got on offense, the improved ol from a pass blocking standpoint and his increased number of downfield throws, I thought he'd have more points put up.

You forget we have played one of the hardest schedules in the league and Maclin, who was his top receiver from last year, has been off his game.

But the only thing that matters right now is the record and we are likely finishing 12-4.

Not that I recall

Classic example of bitching for the sake of bitching.

Quit trolling. Please go post about Paxton Lynch over at the Orange Mane.

I thought the schedule had been tougher this year, but someone posted the other day it wasn't than last year.

I'm not sure about the numbers though, haven't looked into it.

Not buying the strength of schedule shit.

There are hardly any great defenses in the league this season. The Broncos and Texans are the only two I can think of that have been worth a shit this year.

How is posting a stat bitching?

11 turnovers is his most as a chief, iirc.

Lynch is a bronco now. I'm hoping he doesn't turn out very good, but based on all the draft talk, the chiefs were in on him too.

The pats actually have the best defense in terms of points allowed.

I never would have guessed that.

Chargers twice, Raiders twice, Falcons, Saints, Panthers, Jets, Colts, Titans, Jaguars.

All of those defenses are ass. Alex should have feasted this season.

Again, more evidence that you just are looking for more ways to discredit a guy that is winning games for us and clearly is playing better than you want us all to believe. Get a hobby.

They are. That really just speaks to the sad state of defense in the league this year.

The Seahawks and Broncos both took a big step back this season. Obviously our defense is good but we've got flaws.

My post was specifically speaking on the defenses we've played this season though. I'm not saying HOU and DEN were the only defenses that were good this year.

Best defenses the chiefs have played are the broncos and Texans I'm guessing?

I'm a little worried about Pitts d going into the playoffs. It seems to be getting better than I'd hoped. Iirc, they're banged up though on the dl.

We have only played the Chargers once and the fact that you don't realize that their pass defense ranks as one of the best shows your ignorance.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...sition/defense

Yes, man! I literally just said that. Where have you been? LOL

Yeah, Pitt's defense isn't all that good but for whatever reason they're a bad matchup for us. They didn't even have Shazier when we played them earlier in the year and we still didn't score until the 4th quarter.

Which stat are we looking at here?

Wow, you're a ****ing idiot.

According to that link, our pass defense is better than theres in just about any category you'd give a shit about. We allow a lower completion percentage, lower YPA average, less yardage overall, less yards per game, and a lower passer rating.

LOL No one would argue that the Chargers pass defense is better than ours.

I just saw that. Must've glossed over it.

Yeah, I dunno why we can't matchup there.

Them losing heyward and now with tuitt hurt is a big blow, if tuitt misses more time.

The good thing with pitt would be if we get the 2 seed, they'd have to come to kc. Their road splits aren't ideal.

I think you missed an edit there

Seriously, I worry for you. Your reading comprehension is complete garbage. My post clearly states they are ONE of the best pass defenses in the league when your previous post claims they suck. Both opponent QB rating and TD rate they are top 5 in the league.

Yeah, he edited it as I quoted it. He definitely did originally say their pass defense ranked better than ours though.

I thi k he posted that when you said they were better than the chiefs.

Yeah, that's why I was curious as to which stat we were supposed to look at.

It's funny that he called our your reading comprehension on a post he edited though

In summary: Smith is playing for us through 2017.

Accept it or quit watching.

I hope the chargers don't resign Ingram. He's really developed

You're a bumbling idiot. You originally stated their pass defense ranked higher than ours.

Their defense is trash, though. They allow 26 PPG. That's garbo.

Either way, go ahead and drop SD from the list. We've played basically every bottom third pass defense this season.

San Diego has some players. I think they're just about ****ed though. Rivers is going to fall off a cliff soon if he hasn't started to already.

JFC you are a pussy.

The fact you can't handle the obvious truth that Alex Smith's severe limitations as a QB is a fatal flaw for this team's Super Bowl aspirations has apparently led you to the delusional route of trying to convince yourself that the QB position isn't the most important position in the NFL in the year 2016.

You are a dickless mental defect whose football ignorance/naivety is comical.

It's a product of Rivers playing with a shit supporting cast which has put him on pace for a career high in turnovers. Thus, the Chargers rank dead last in opponent starting field position, which their defense has no control over; so naturally, they are going to give up more points as a result.

Requires understanding the big picture, my friend.

You are one miserable ****. We are 11-4 and one of the best teams in the NFL. We have the best chance of a SB in decades. And all you can do is bitch. Pathetic.

When has he not had a shit supporting cast? Every year the guy is throwing to guys off the street by week 6.

His INT% has risen from 2.0 last season to 3.5 this season, which is nearly double, and yet their defense still gave up 25 PPG last season.

It's just not a good defense. Sorry.

It's people like you that make me want to hate Alex not Alex himself.



I already know he will be our starting quarterback next season like it or not doesn't matter I'm not going not watch my Chiefs because I love Chiefs football.

I did not want Matt Cassell here and I hated he was our quarterback from day one however that didn't make me quit watching or be a fan. So stop being a ****ing twit and telling us what we have to like or what to accept. We can do that on our own terms.

I think we have a golden opportunity even with your "golden boy" Alex Smith to win a Super Bowl this year. I think we have the tools to get it done but we are going have to count on Alex Smith to not **** things up for us. So I'm going to root for him like I have rooted for him even if I didn't want him as our quarterback he is what we have.

Alex Smith isn't as good of a quarterback as you make him out to be nor is he as bad as he is made out to be on CP that balances him out to be mediocre quarterback and that's what he is but he can play up to higher level at times and this is the time we need him too.

Instead of Black Bob you should be called Bagdad Bob that's who you act like.

If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl by Gawd so can Alex Smith.

:hmmm: if QB turnovers almost doubles yet defensive points allowed per game remains the same that must mean the defense is playing at a higher level..

Have been, and can-do! :thumb:

LMAO
Rep.

Thanks for the reply. Mediocre quarterbacks don't play five seasons, make the playoffs four times, and have one of the best records in that time frame.

ROFL
Nailed it.

I will give you Alex Smith is above average quarterback at this point.

However I feel that his criticism is much warranted and that 3 playoff victories from 11 seasons isn't him being a world beater or gives us an elite quarterback. So please don't expect everyone of us to just "accept" Alex Smith.

I've seen Alex make some great plays but consistently he doesn't make them and so that is the concern we have. You can't fault us for that concern.

Also fans should be critical it's our right as being a fan of the team we love to be critical. I cheer for big plays if it's Alex Smith making them and I will boo shitty plays if it's Alex Smith making them.

Eh, three playoff victories in 11 seasons call me unimpressed.

Which is still 3 more than any other KC QB has had in the last 11 seasons.....


Just sayin'

Their defense is better than last season but better than bad doesn't equal good.

Besides, their turnover differential this season is -6. It was -4 last season. Hardly a difference.

I don't buy what you're selling.

No, no, no. . . He's a 'better' and 'smarter' fan, because he knows enough to hate the team no matter what, unless they 'luck into' a Super Bowl victory.

It's called 'having standards!!!'

Mediocre QB's often hold great teams back.

Chiefs have a top 5 roster, but Alex's endzone INT's cost us a first rd bye at this time.

Mediocre teams have held great QBs back a good 10:1 compared vice versa.

The closest a QB came to willing mediocrity to a SB was Elway's two embarrassing SB blowout losses in the early 90s.

I just hope that the name for the Lounge never changes. It simply MUST stay as is.

Best. Ever.

So in a nutshell Alex has personally cost us 2 losses (at minimum) and has contributed nothing to our 11 wins?

And even if he did contribute to our 11 wins, thats not as big a deal as the 2 losses.

CP logic at its finest.

Elite ball control wins games on a CONSISTENT basis...PERIOD. There's a reason the dude's teams have won so much in recent years.

We will never win a SB with Alex Smith, lets just accept it and draft a QB this year and let him take over in 2 years. Were stuck with Alex for 2 more years... would cost us more to cut him than keep him...

Alex has won us some games, but those 2 mistakes were HUGE. It could be the difference from making the AFCCG.

It's amazing that people here settle for playoff failure and think it's okay just bc we are in the dance.

Do you understand the complex interaction between grammatical tenses and the passage of time?

I am a huge Dorsey fan and I think our coaching staff is top notch, but it's time to ascend from regular season successto postseason success.

Every year in the NFL there are usually 1-3 elite teams followed by by another 4-5 very good teams and then the rest of the 32 are just there and mediocre/insignificant.
The Chiefs are a very good team, on paper probably one of the best "very good" teams.

When fans say stupid shit like "enjoy the teams success and quit being miserable", I can tell they either haven't been fans long or they are just used to being mediocre.

this franchise is 4-14 in the playoffs since we won our SB. Is that this regimes fault? No, and nobody is saying it is.

However, we are 1-3 in this regime and in year 4 we are still a WC team that hasn't won the division.
The Chiefs have beaten up on mediocre teams in the regular season and postseason for 2 decades. It's time to beat the very good teams and push for a SB...something we haven't done since Joe Montana was here.

Yup

Do you understand the not so complex interaction between your head and Alex Smith's ass?

It is pure hilarity watching you and the other Alex Smith apologist dumbshits attempt to provide validity to the myth that the Chiefs can win a Super Bowl despite Alex Smith's inability to throw a downfield pass.

List the teams that have won a Super Bowl the past 20 years or so despite having a game manager type QB. The 2001 Baltimore Ravens with Trent Dilfer, the 2003 Tampa Bay Bucs with Brad Johnson and the 2016 Denver Broncos with 80 year old Peyton Manning.

And all of those QB's still came through and made big plays in the downfield passing game when their respective teams needed it during their successful postseason runs.

You can't win this argument.

Time to stop humiliating yourself.

Who are these people that are just fine with playoff failure?

So your contention is that Alex Smith has never made plays downfield in a playoff game and that this isn't arguable?

You simply wont listen to anything except the thought in your own head.

He can probably hear the dick that beats the back of his throat like a drum.

Blasé clairvoyants, evidently . . .

How many big passing plays has Alex Smith made in the passing game this season that didn't come from YAC from 2 yard bubble screens? How many big downfield passing plays has Alex Smith converted on an obvious passing down and when he's had to hold onto the ball longer than 2.5 seconds?

The game manager QB's listed in my previous post whose teams won Super Bowls were still able to come through with big downfield passing plays when their teams needed it.

See Trent Dilfer's 80 yard TD pass to Shannon Sharpe to help win the AFC Championship Game. See 80 year old Peyton Manning converting on a key third and long vs. Pittsburgh in the playoffs last year with a 30+ yard passing play that led to the eventual game winning TD.

Can Bubble Screen Alex Smith be counted on to deliver similar big plays in the downfield passing game if needed?

Meh, it's obviously important but the biggest contributing factor to us winning so many games since Alex came to town has been strong defense.

Take a look at Tyrod Taylor's production for starters. He is generally as safe with the ball as Alex while also putting up more TDs and yet his team can hardly crack 8-8. It's because their defense hasn't been strong.

You win games by scoring more points than the other team. Most of this comes from running the ball or passing it. We've been awful at passing for points from our QB.

You don't know jack about football and clearly haven't watched the games this season. No one with an ounce of common sense agrees wth you

Quarterback, Longsnapper, Third String Safety. Just titles. They're all just 1 part of the 53 and they all contribute equally to both wins and losses. And they are all compensated in the exact same way, so I don't see what the big deal is and why it always has to be about one position!

Andy doesn't seem to trust Alex throwing vertical bc it's yielded some poor results like losing the TB and TEN games.

He's gonna try to screen/intermediate pass the entire game.

False. That has not been decided yet. We can still get the 2 seed.

This is the kind of hyperbole that drives people nuts. Why can't you just be honest?

The throwing downfield this year has been fine. Andy plays to Alex strengths, which is what he should do.

It's not false. They haven't won the division up to this point.

They could on sunday, it's out of their control, which sucks, but that would definitely make this year a success going into the plyoffs

I'll be ecstatic if we get the 2 seed.

I will be royally pissed off if we get the 2 seed and drop another playoff game at home in the divisional round.

Read his post. It stated definitively that we are a WC team this year. That has not been decided, so it is NOT TRUE.

Yeah, that would suck.

The 1 seed this year is the drivers seat as you get hfa all the way thru, plus you avoid having to play the other two. Let them best up each other.

As it stands today, they're the 5 seed. Statistically, they're more likely to be the 5 seed and they haven't win the division.

Pull your underwear out of your Crack and move on.

I would just like to see honest discussion and not so much hyperbole.

Wait, what am I thinking? This is CP, there will never be honest discussion.

The chiefs are currently the 5 seed and not the division leaders with 1 game left to play.

Don't be so sensitive

If they do their job and beat SD they have a better than even chance (54%) at getting the #2, so this isn't completely accurate.

Last I saw it was like 48 percent but that was Monday.

I'm not very confident in the broncos but we shall see. Hopefully mggloin sucks.

Today it is 54% if we beat SD.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ss&event=seed2

Edit: actually it gets a different number every time I run it, but they are all 54-59%

It's an argument bordering on semantics but what he said is the truth. At this point in time the Chiefs are a wildcard and have not won the division. Even deviating from the most literal interpretation of his post, the Chiefs don't have singular control over making that statement untrue.

we'll be fine.

You didn't answer the question.

Are you saying Alex Smith has never made plays down the field in a playoff game? Yes or ****ing no?