He needs multiple years in the same system, they said. Well, it's Year Four.

He needs a better OL, they said. The teams goes out and gets an elite RT, and sack numbers drop.

He needs more weapons, they said. Good grief, there are weapons all over the field. Most QB's would kill to have this offensive talent to work with.


Some of us called it from Day One. Alex Smith is who Alex Smith is. A below average QB who could be given the keys to HOF talent around him and find a way to put the offense in the ditch.

Four years into this experiment, there is no progression - actually, there's been regression, and it's time to move the **** on. Otherwise, we know our fate before a season ever starts. 9-11 wins and a one-and-done when it matters. Unless we're fortunate enough to draw the Brian Hoyer's of the world in R1.

http://i63.tinypic.com/xkuam8.png

Yeah.. he is who he is and those numbers say it all.

...the dropped passes yesterday were brutal, and a detriment all season long.

Ware, Kelce and Maclin all choked.


This was a complete team loss.

Hush, this thread needs no logic, some here don't understand logic.

Plenty of blame, offense, defense ST's and coaching!

Somewhere I heard the beer vendors even had a hand in it.

Wow. That miss is awful. Just horrible. Alex Smith has to let the ball fly. Jesus.


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Would it really matter if they did? Will 100% conformity of opinion on this sway the decision-makers for the KC organization?

It's just gonna be yet another long offseason of redundant pouting and frustration at the powers that be. Yay. :(

For this reason.. and the reality that Smith is not irreplaceable... I'm good with moving onto some other QB. Not expecting it though. I'd be shocked if Reid and Dorsey put this loss on Alex.

Can you or anyone else please elaborate on this? Seems th be the common consensus that we couldnt run yesterday...so lets look at it....

1st and 10 at KC 45
(9:31 - 1st) (Shotgun) S.Ware right guard to PIT 48 for 7 yards (J.Harrison).

2nd and 3 at PIT 48
(9:01 - 1st) (No Huddle) T.Hill right end to PIT 41 for 7 yards (R.Shazier).

Those are the first two plays of the game. 2 great runs. Then we run EIGHT consecutive times (end of the first drive and the entire second drive). Then the following drive, we run again.

1st and 10 at KC 25
(9:18 - 2nd) (Shotgun) S.Ware up the middle to KC 28 for 3 yards (J.Hargrave).

3 yards. Not a great run, but allowed the following 7 yard pass to be a first down. Next play, interception. Drive over. So far, we have run the ball 3 times in 3 offensive drives.

We run on 1st down on our 4th drive.

1st and 10 at KC 20
(6:04 - 2nd) S.Ware left guard to KC 23 for 3 yards (R.Shazier).

Then 2 straight Alex incompletions, and we have to punt.

Next drive, our fifth....pass, pass, pass, pass, end of the half.

To summarize to this point of the game, we have had 5 offensive drives, and attempted 4 runs. Four. 4 attempts for 20 yards. Failing to see a.) That the Steelers are preventing us from running or b.) That we are having trouble running period. Maybe the secobd half will show how we had trouble running.

2nd and 10 at KC 24
(14:50 - 3rd) (Shotgun) S.Ware up the middle to KC 23 for -1 yards (J.Harrison).

Ware's first poor run of the night. Two plays later, we punted. Next drive we ran the ball twice.

1st and 10 at KC 38
(9:11 - 3rd) (Shotgun) S.Ware up the middle to KC 41 for 3 yards (B.Dupree).

3rd and 3 at KC 45
(8:33 - 3rd) (Shotgun) Direct snap to S.Ware. S.Ware up the middle to PIT 47 for 8 yards (M.Mitchell).

Two plays later on second down...

2nd and 10 at PIT 47
(7:07 - 3rd) (Shotgun) T.Hill left end pushed ob at PIT 39 for 8 yards (R.Shazier).

Then we have a delay of game, Alex then takes a sack, and then we punt again. Next drive, four straight passes and then...

1st and 10 at PIT 36
(1:39 - 3rd) C.West left end to PIT 37 for -1 yards (J.Hargrave).

No idea why West is getting a first down carry. Anyway, moving onto our last drive. It was a 12 play drive, almost all of which were passes. Here are the runs.

1st and 10 at KC 49
(9:03 - 4th) S.Ware up the middle to PIT 40 for 11 yards (M.Mitchell).

1st and 10 at PIT 26
(6:25 - 4th) T.Hill up the middle to PIT 23 for 3 yards (R.Shazier).

That's it folks. Ballgame. I feel like I am losing my mind here. You claim the Steelers shut us down. Other posters (mostly the Alex ballwashers) agree we couldnt run the ball. I would love to see how thats the case.

WARE:
8 carries for 35 yards
4.3 YPC
1 negative run
1 run less than 3 yards

HILL:
3 carries for 16 yards
5.3 YPC
0 negative runs

WEST:
1 carry for -1 yard

Steelers didnt shut down S**T.

I forgot this mother****er threw for 15 ****ing TDs this year.

Matt ****ing Cassel can throw for 15 ****ing TDs.

So sick of seeing Chiefs fans defend a player just because he rarely makes noticeable mistakes, and even when he does it's met with, "How many games has he won?"

Want more salt in the wound?

In 6 of the last 8 losses for the Chiefs, they held the opponent to 19 or less points.

Alex Smith and the CHIEFS made playoff history last night by becoming the only team ever to lose a playoff game when scoring two TD's more against an opponent!

Smith missed TWO wide open Hill TD's when he wasnt pressured or had a clean pocket. I'm sure the video has been posted already in this thread.

49er & Eagles fans calling in all day to radio shows saying "what did KC fans expect, Smith and Reid have a history of failure."

Exactly

1. Alex Smith--excluding injury--is 100% our starting QB next year.
2. No team with Alex Smith as its starting QB will ever win a Super Bowl.

Personally, especially assuming Dorsey is here for a long time, I CAN NOT WAIT for both Smith and Reid to be gone. Dorsey is the first guy in the Chiefs organization in quite some time that seems to know his ass from a hole in the ground, and I'm very interested in seeing what his moves would be in terms of QB and HC. I'm so ****ing sick and tired of watching broke-dick, noodle-armed pussies QB this team. It's been a decade since this franchise put a decent QB on the field, and it's not like Trent Green was Aaron Rodgers, but he at least could throw an accurate 20 yd pass with some degree of consistency. Matalex Smithcastle can't muster up the ability to do it more than once or twice a game, so when it happens his receivers are so shocked they usually drop it. And I don't want to hear about Smith's record, he's been on two Super Bowl caliber teams and hasn't done shit. His first NFL coach benched his ass for a 2nd year guy who it turns out can also barely play the position, but who led them to within 10 yards of a championship.

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If you had to choose the best four game performance:

Player A: 60.5 completion percentage, 1115 yards (12 yards/completion; 7 net yards/attempt) 9 TDs 3 INTs and 4 sacks

or

Player B: 63.5 completion percentage, 986 yards (10.3 yards/completion; 6 net yards/attempt ) 7 TDs 2 INTs and 7 sacks

And while Dorsey seems like a keeper, he needs to up his game at QB immediately. We'd look really nice with either Carr or Prescott as our QB, and both of them were sitting right there ripe for Dorsey's picking.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Say it again--I&#39;m KC I would trade multiple current stars (whichever ones I can) &amp; draft picks 4 the right QB. AFC West only getting tougher</p>&mdash; Colin Cowherd (@ColinCowherd) <a href="https://twitter.com/ColinCowherd/status/821137313283522560">January 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;But Colin, Alex Smith didn&#39;t LOSE the game for us&quot;. Boy, nothing says big time QB quite like, our QB didn&#39;t LOSE the game for us.</p>&mdash; Colin Cowherd (@ColinCowherd) <a href="https://twitter.com/ColinCowherd/status/821155199490265088">January 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Colin is right.

How do we not have a 4-year-old thread to bump weekly? Or do we. I always see a new thread saying the same thing after every loss.

Smith has been the same timid, wet tampon of a QB since the day he entered the league.

And there it is.

But, but all he does is w....

God bless you Colin

Colin has said it continuously that KC has better players than NE and Pitt.


He had yet to hammer on Smith directly until today.

Jesus Colin Cowherd isn't too bright. Trade Poe, Kelce and Berry for Garrapolo?

Does he even realize 2 of those guys are FA's and we already did this Patriot way bullshit?

Tony Romo or bust

Alex missing the wide-open WR appears to be a genetic disorder. We're used to it, and his answer being, "I gotta get/do better."

Like Clark, he and the family will be on the beach (avoiding the press and reality) in two shakes.

Manning his us with, "Don't call me, I'll call you." Romo will do the same thing if we call.

You are talking about a guy who this last year did a segment saying Smith is both underrated and underappreciated

You have failed.

Everything you stand for has crashed and burned to the ground.

Take your shitty opinions and weak-assed football/QB takes, and go drown yourself in the nearest body of water.

1 playoff win in 4 goddamn seasons.

Franchises like Denver laugh at us.

Man I understand Andy makes some shitty horizontal playcalls but give him a decent QB and everything changes.

I'm looking at gifs of this game and players are wide the **** open a lot. Alex is really that bad

Chargers have the same amount in that time frame.

I'd sit that one out.

Romo can't make it through a game without injury and Reid would neuter Romo on the field.

Not a fit.

Truth. It would have been great to have him years ago, but this O-line would get him killed.

And an offensive coordinator to run the goddamned show. There is no reason under God that Reid shouldn't be able to separate himself from O-Coord duties, and just be the grand overseer of the game!

There's no ****ing mystery here, it's very goddamned simple.

Unpossible, they pay him top dollar. They wouldn't do that unless they knew he was the next Rodgers, Brady, Manning, or Romo, right?

provide the gifs.

Did Clay make this?

This is wonderful.

Grbac was the best of those turds and did it against the best team out of those as well.

Yes, and it is as magnificent as it is truthful.

This is simply the greatest meme in the history of civilization.

Gaze upon the majesty, share with friends and family.

It's over. He sucks. Leaves points on the field with regularity.

lol at that picture. Chiefs truly do make losing in the playoffs a work of art. 2003 the no punt defense and of course who will ever forget the 28 point 3rd quarter lead game.

We know.. The Clark's have a built-in excuse for doing nothing. Another Hunt staple.

Niner fan here. That game was just like the 2011 NFCC against the giants. We scored two TD and still lost because kyle williams fumbled and muffed giving Giants 10 points. And like the steelers, the giants didn't turn the ball over that day.

Alex was throwing at crabtree's feet and not throwing it down field. Kyle Williams, the back up punt returner got the blane but alex didn't even try to win the game for us. Just holding the ball hoping for a mistake or ST play.

Alex was on some pretty good offensive teams and was still just meh. He played with gore, vernon davis, crabtree and delanie walker at the same time and still just was average at best.

This is who he is. Its frustrating to watch.

Are 49ers fans still talking about their dearly departed hero?

Link?

Yup. Same exact thing as in here for the last 10 years. If he was still a niner he would have a terrible year. Kap on our crap team had comparable numbers which were poor. Our best wr was kerley and our te sucks balls.

would you take him back for kaep???

Naw. Time to try to find a franchise QB that is a better pocket passer.

Smith is a good stop gap. KC should have been grooming a guy while anith gets the team going. Niners did the same thing. Now we have to start from scratch when kap dips next year.

Just a little, we talk way more about getting rid of Krapernick!

thats the funny part. Smiths value as a starter is so low Im not sure what team would want him.

Would Cleveland, the Jets or the Bills even bother?

Browns - He probably cant run Hue Jacksons system, so he would be more of the same like they already have in McCown. Pryors stock would plummet with Smith at QB.

Bills - No way a new coach ties himself to a 32 year old game manager, youd be insane to do that.

Jets - Maybe, because hes the anti Fitz, and doesnt turn the ball over. He would get destroyed by the Pats and Dolphins 4x a year though so Jets fans will turn on him so fast


Its easy to see how Alex Smith is probably a spot starter/bsckup at best on 75 percent of rosters right now

Reid was asked Smith would be the QB next year and he didn't say yes. He said they haven't looked at it yet. Maybe there is hope he will be gone. He deserves to be gone.

Did he say that in the post game interview?

If so, that pretty much says they're heavily considering a new QB.

Some slightly dumber team might be enamored with Alex Smith. The Chiefs fell for it....

Jets? Rams make some sense, even though they seem to think Jared Goff will be a viable NFL QB.

Maybe Washington if they lose Cousins to FA.

I think there will be a lot of QB movement this offseason. Maybe a team will be interested in Smith, who knows. Even if there is no interest, the cap hit for cutting him isnt bad.

He didn't say yes. He basicly said the staff and players have it been discussed. That is not a ringing endorsement.

http://m.chiefs.com/s/30852/322?item...71111141486860

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not but I guess Cowherd talked about how KC should try and get in on the Garoppolo trade.

Besides the fact that KC would be trading for another backup.....now listen to what he thinks KC should give up for him..

1st round pick
Kelce
Poe
Berry

2 of which are free agents....da fuk. lol. Literally insane.

1st- you bumped a thread when we already have 4 just like it on the front page already.

2nd - if you listen to Colin "I-refuse-to-cover-KC-because-it's-flyover-country" Cowherd then you are a ****ing idiot and should step out into oncoming traffic.

You're right, i didn't realize it was such an old thread. I searched Cowherd and saw he was mentioned in here but not specifically this.

Btw, I don't listen to him. I heard 810 talk about it in the morning.

But please carry on with your rage.

Petro made a great point. Reid dumped McNabb when he was 33 and his stats were better than Smiths.

We can only hope.

Jets would probably take him. Bears. Texans would be much better with him but they gave Osweiller too much money. Jags would be better off with less QB turnovers but probably want to give Bortles one more season. Cardinals were interested in him before he came here, so unless they want to move on from Palmer it's not happening there. He's not going back to the Niners. Other than that, no.

Thing was he had Michael Vick in the wings who Reid felt was ready to take over. Plus McNabb had been injured much of the previous few years. Unless he thinks Foles is his guy and some team is ready to give up a 2 and a 3 for Smith like he got for McNabb, I don't see him doing the same thing. But you never know...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_McNabb

At this point, all I have is the rage.

:sulk:

I think the solid if unspectacular play of Alex Smith would be welcome on several teams.


Think of all the teams that are a disaster at QB and just want to stop losing because of that position.

Denver
Houston
Cleveland (would take any decent QB at this point)
49ers (have need but would be too embarrassed to take Smith back)
Bears (probably not, although they seem to settle in under Barkley for awhile)
Jets (i doubt the fans would accept such a mundane move. NY always needs flare)
Buffalo (If Ryan was still there I would say yes. Not anymore)

I have no idea what the value of Smith would be, though.

He has value as a stop gap for a rebuilding team, or a solid #2 for a contender, if his tenure with the Chiefs was cut short and he wasnt done playing.

I think when his Chiefs career ends he will hang em up.

So not to rub salt on the wound or anything... but that painful gif that keeps showing up in this thread... It damn sure looks like Hill was his first read, and he stared Hill down as he was breaking down the field. WTF Alex?

He's watching Hill from the snap:

http://i67.tinypic.com/2ewk5lz.png

Still watching.....

http://i66.tinypic.com/33etmco.png

Hill had 7 yards on the DB before he could turn his hips to chase him.

http://i63.tinypic.com/30awaxx.png

Fastest man in the NFL, with a 10yd lead on the closest defender... can't/won't throw him the ****ing ball......

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