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Chris Meck 03-08-2019 05:11 PM

I really wonder if he's just in a ****ed up PTSD loop.

I mean, all the haglund's talk is still just speculation, right?

What if he's just ****ed up in his head and afraid. It'd be understandable, I mean snapping an achilles has to be extremely painful.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-08-2019 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14141777)
I really wonder if he's just in a ****ed up PTSD loop.

I mean, all the haglund's talk is still just speculation, right?

What if he's just ****ed up in his head and afraid. It'd be understandable, I mean snapping an achilles has to be extremely painful.

I didn't think there was any scenario left on earth whereby I could lose any more respect for HoboHaglund29, but I'll be damned if you didn't find one!

Chris Meck 03-08-2019 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14141786)
I didn't think there was any scenario left on earth whereby I could lose any more respect for HoboHaglund29, but I'll be damned if you didn't find one!

at this point, I'd accept even this explanation. I just want an explanation period.

Cancer and two achilles is a lot of trauma. These are still people, you know. If his problem is psychological it would explain a lot.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-08-2019 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14141793)
at this point, I'd accept even this explanation. I just want an explanation period.

Cancer and two achilles is a lot of trauma. These are still people, you know. If his problem is psychological it would explain a lot.


Let's theorize. Supposing that were the case, would it not make sense to leave such traumatic surroundings as to avoid any chance whatsoever of bringing said phobia to pass?

If it's PTSD, then you're basically sending Berry to southeast Asia 10 months out the year to run through the jungle and dodge VC patrols, yes?

chiefzilla1501 03-08-2019 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14141777)
I really wonder if he's just in a ****ed up PTSD loop.

I mean, all the haglund's talk is still just speculation, right?

What if he's just ****ed up in his head and afraid. It'd be understandable, I mean snapping an achilles has to be extremely painful.

Yup. I dont blame him if that's the case. But something is clearly... Off. Its unusual for a guy with that much love for football to all of a sudden look like he doesnt want to be on there. His comments seemed off. Its not criticizing the guy.... It's realizing that maybe there's something beyond injury that's been a problem

chiefzilla1501 03-08-2019 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14141143)
I think the reality is that Berry got sideways with the coaching staff or organization somewhere, and it's been kept somewhat under wraps. It's the only thing that makes sense. His contract and personal situation makes him a player somewhat impervious to public scrutiny, so the coaching staff didn't really call him out...

Except they did. Subtly, but it happened. Reid talking about doctors agreeing and saying Berry would play "if he FELT ready" which all indicates to me that team doctors cleared him, and Berry's doctors didn't.

I wonder if this all goes back to Houston's knee, actually? As fans, which we bitched about shitty knee procedures on Tamba and Houston (and Jamaal?) maybe there was a feeling among the defenders that the Chiefs medical/training staff were ****ing up players' careers.

Holy shit, as I'm typing this, I think I am convincing myself that is absolutely, 100% the only logical explanation.

Houston, Berry watched theirs and others' knees get ****ed up and not properly cared for by team doctors. They bitch about Rick Burkholder, which is why Andy Reid publicly defends him. It's also why I know his ****ing name. There has been drama playing out behind the scenes between the players and coaching staff, with the MEDICAL STAFF as the point of contention between them.

If the Chiefs turn over their medical staff, then I think you see Berry and Houston back in uniform this fall and playing at a high level. If Reid/Veach choose their staff over the players, then both guys will be sent packing.

I'M A CONSPIRACY GENIUS. BOOK IT.

I think the part that gets me is that Reid was asked a few times during the season. Then asked about the pitch count. Reid is the king of coach speak. He seemed a little confused and almost a little ticked. I don't think it's a love hate thing. I think berry is a little off right now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-08-2019 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14141827)
I think the part that gets me is that Reid was asked a few times during the season. Then asked about the pitch count. Reid is the king of coach speak. He seemed a little confused and almost a little ticked. I don't think it's a love hate thing. I think berry is a little off right now.

Yip!


TwistedChief 03-08-2019 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14141803)
Let's theorize. Supposing that were the case, would it not make sense to leave such traumatic surroundings as to avoid any chance whatsoever of bringing said phobia to pass?

If it's PTSD, then you're basically sending Berry to southeast Asia 10 months out the year to run through the jungle and dodge VC patrols, yes?

Don't overreact. Whatever we do with Berry is just "a" move, not "the" move. You read me, brother?

TEX 03-08-2019 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14141817)
Yup. I dont blame him if that's the case. But something is clearly... Off. Its unusual for a guy with that much love for football to all of a sudden look like he doesnt want to be on there. His comments seemed off. Its not criticizing the guy.... It's realizing that maybe there's something beyond injury that's been a problem

Its complicated...

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-08-2019 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14141877)
Don't overreact. Whatever we do with Berry is just "a" move, not "the" move. You read me, brother?

Wut?

It literally can't get any worse.

Flying High D 03-08-2019 08:58 PM

Will Hobohaglundspirit29 be participating in the training camps? How soon til he starts missing time due to uncomfortable discomfort?

threebag 03-09-2019 12:04 AM

It might be his turn to bust pallets at the burn barrel, hope he doesn’t use dat heel

Rausch 03-09-2019 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14141887)
Its complicated...

It’s a process...

GloryDayz 03-09-2019 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14140970)
It really sucks seeing an article on bleacher report about how bad the contracts that safeties are getting are, only to realize we're still paying this piece of shit $16 million to do ****ing nothing.

And that the franchise is, publicly, so PC about it. Not attacking the cancer that is EB29 is to encourage more of this behavior from EB29 and others.

Flying High D 03-09-2019 10:20 AM

Cancer free is the way to be in 2019 for the team led by MVP.

threebag 03-09-2019 09:02 PM

Heel be day 2 day until he retires, ****ing fabulous

FAX 03-09-2019 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14141143)
I think the reality is that Berry got sideways with the coaching staff or organization somewhere, and it's been kept somewhat under wraps. It's the only thing that makes sense. His contract and personal situation makes him a player somewhat impervious to public scrutiny, so the coaching staff didn't really call him out...

Except they did. Subtly, but it happened. Reid talking about doctors agreeing and saying Berry would play "if he FELT ready" which all indicates to me that team doctors cleared him, and Berry's doctors didn't.

I wonder if this all goes back to Houston's knee, actually? As fans, which we bitched about shitty knee procedures on Tamba and Houston (and Jamaal?) maybe there was a feeling among the defenders that the Chiefs medical/training staff were ****ing up players' careers.

...

I'M A CONSPIRACY GENIUS. BOOK IT.

I'm inclined to almost agree with this take. Almost. Maybe. Nearly there.

However, if we add in a couple of solid alien abductions and a Bigfeets sighting, I'm all in, baby.

FAX THE BELIEVER

htismaqe 03-09-2019 09:22 PM

Is he gone yet?

In58men 03-09-2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14143525)
Is he gone yet?

ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-10-2019 01:21 AM

It's gonna' be a looooooooooooong ride to the month of June, baby.

htismaqe 03-10-2019 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14143742)
It's gonna' be a looooooooooooong ride to the month of June, baby.

They have to cut him next week or his salary guarantee kicks in. They can designate him as a June 1st cut next week if they want.

JakeF 03-10-2019 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14143751)
They have to cut him next week or his salary guarantee kicks in. They can designate him as a June 1st cut next week if they want.

Knowing the Chiefs they'll wait until after the salary money kicks in before they cut him.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-10-2019 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14143751)
They have to cut him next week or his salary guarantee kicks in. They can designate him as a June 1st cut next week if they want.

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lcarus 09-30-2019 11:27 AM

Eric Berry still a free agent. Kind of surprised that no team has signed him. Is he that broken now? Does he even want to play football anymore?

comochiefsfan 09-30-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14490773)
Eric Berry still a free agent. Kind of surprised that no team has signed him. Is he that broken now? Does he even want to play football anymore?

He was ineffective when he played last year. EB is damaged goods, plain and simple. The fact that no one has even bothered to take a flyer on him tells you all you need to know.

burt 09-30-2019 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14490773)
Eric Berry still a free agent. Kind of surprised that no team has signed him. Is he that broken now? Does he even want to play football anymore?

He was that broken last year.

MIAdragon 09-30-2019 11:32 AM

His spirit is still broke

Buehler445 09-30-2019 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14490773)
Eric Berry still a free agent. Kind of surprised that no team has signed him. Is he that broken now? Does he even want to play football anymore?


Holy shit yes he's still that broken.

suzzer99 09-30-2019 11:44 AM

Is he even trying to get signed?

lcarus 09-30-2019 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14490784)
The fact that no one has even bothered to take a flyer on him tells you all you need to know.

I guess it does. Still...kinda weird. I mean Orlando Scandrick got signed....

Wilson8 09-30-2019 12:15 PM

There's really not much news on Eric Berry. Clear back in March of 2019 Berry talked with John Dorsey of the Browns and with the Dallas Cowboys but obviously nothing came from that.

You would think that an NFL team needing a safety might have signed him by now if he was healthy.

Maybe Eric comes back with the Chiefs, signs a 1 day contract and retires as a Chief?

RunKC 09-30-2019 12:19 PM

Can you really blame Eric Berry for wanting to use his own doctors?

Kevin Durant was rushed back by medical staff and the result was a torn Achilles. Bradley Chubb was apparently sent back on the field yesterday with a known knee issue and it resulted in an ACL.

Eric Berry is done playing football. His body is done, but I understand athletes being put in his situation wanting to get their own medical opinion over team dr’s putting pressure on players to rush rehab.

Wilson8 09-30-2019 12:28 PM

Saw this from the Atlanta Falcons (https://www.atlantafalcons.com), but thought it was good.

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Moe from Atlanta, GA
Why don’t the Falcons just sign Eric Berry? You said there is no one out here worth signing but Eric Berry is a free Agent and he still is a top safety?

Matt: Let’s all pause for a minute and take a look at some facts. Eric Berry was once a very good safety in this league and his personal story of overcoming cancer is an incredible one. Since playing all 16 games back in 2016, Berry has only played one game in 2017 and two games in 2018. The Chiefs eventually cut ties and released the 30-year-old Berry and he’s been a free agent since. I’m sure the Falcons have considered the idea of at least looking at him, especially when they lost both starting safeties last season. But there’s so much more to consider, Moe. Is Berry a good fit for this defense? Has he lost a step? Does he still want to play? What are his salary demands? Is he truly healthy? Are there better options out there? Do the Falcons like some of their younger players? The Falcons ended up making several moves the other day, and none obviously involved Berry. I just don’t see it happening, Moe.

Chiefspants 09-30-2019 12:44 PM

I must say, it's pretty telling that Orlando Scandrick was able to land a contract before EB.

Wilson8 09-30-2019 12:56 PM

In watching the Chiefs defense this year I have thought it would be nice to have a safety that could get into position, tackle, and stop runs.

Looking at https://www.pro-football-reference.c...9_advanced.htm, It shows
Daniel Sorensen - 4 tackles, 1 missed tackle, 46 defensive snap counts
Tyrann Mathieu - 15 tackles, 3 missed tackles, 201 defensive snap counts
Juan Thornhill - 15 tackles, 3 missed tackles, 199 defensive snap counts
Jordan Lucas - 3 defensive snap counts

sedated 09-30-2019 01:11 PM

Why does anyone think he still wants to play? After cancer and treatment, going through a year of Achilles rehab, and have another heel issue pop up, my fat ass would be on the couch too.

He's sat and watched John Wall and Kevin Durant tear their Achilles after heel/calf issues, and Andrew Luck straight up retired when he was having issues around that area.

RunKC 01-25-2020 01:09 PM

Looks like he took a sabbatical aka his body needed extra time to heal so he can try to come back

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gmfb</a>: Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> S Eric Berry‘s absence from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> this past season was intentional. He plans to return in 2020. <a href="https://t.co/Xd32c8p7fJ">pic.twitter.com/Xd32c8p7fJ</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1221142923804336129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-25-2020 01:10 PM

Sign him for depth or do we re sign Fuller?

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2020 01:12 PM

Not buying it. He took a couple physicals with other teams, Cowboys and Browns if I'm remembering right. Nobody wants him because he won't get the surgery to fix that Haglunds and wants to stand on the sideline all season with "pain management". Dude was the worst player on the worst secondary even when he did actually play last year, anyway.

TEX 01-25-2020 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14751095)
Sign him for depth or do we re sign Fuller?

I hope the Chiefs want N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with Eric Berry on the field.

MeaTy The Pimp 01-25-2020 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14751102)
I hope the Chiefs want N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with Eric Berry on the field.

Keeping it real, he was nails before the ruptured achilles, but now, I don't think his Haglund's would give him permission to sign a contract...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Wilson8 01-25-2020 01:20 PM

Will be interesting to see what kind of money it will take to sign. He will probably want a few million per year so I would say, NO THANKS.

TwistedChief 01-25-2020 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14751097)
Not buying it. He took a couple physicals with other teams, Cowboys and Browns if I'm remembering right. Nobody wants him because he won't get the surgery to fix that Haglunds and wants to stand on the sideline all season with "pain management". Dude was the worst player on the worst secondary even when he did actually play last year, anyway.

Orlando Scandrick and Ron Parker say ‘hi.’

Imon Yourside 01-25-2020 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14751109)
Orlando Scandrick and Ron Parker say ‘hi.’

Scamdick and his shitty attitude have to be the worst. We signed the worst player possible when we picked him up.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2020 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14751109)
Orlando Scandrick and Ron Parker say ‘hi.’

He was worse than them in that AFC Championship game, although the majority of the blame goes to that ****ing piece of shit Sutton for leaving him on the field for 97 god-damned snaps when he was in no way ready for that load.

TwistedChief 01-25-2020 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14751121)
He was worse than them in that AFC Championship game, although the majority of the blame goes to that ****ing piece of shit Sutton for leaving him on the field for 97 god-damned snaps when he was in no way ready for that load.

I agree he was left on the field for too long - that much is certain. But it's not like he was getting burned left and right. On that long completion to Gronk, he had good position but Brady just made a play.

Compare that to Scandrick who didn't even know where to line up in mid-December.

ILChief 01-25-2020 01:56 PM

I wouldn’t sign him even for the minimum. This is honey badger and frank Clark’s defense now. Berry, Houston, etc wear the stink of Sutton

Dante84 01-25-2020 01:57 PM

I trust Veach and Spags, and will leave everything else out of it. No need to sound like a bitter ex.

We are killer Alphas now on defense. If they think Berry is a fit, and he comes back, I’m all in. If they don’t, I’m all good with that too.

jjchieffan 01-25-2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14751191)
I trust Veach and Spags, and will leave everything else out of it. No need to sound like a bitter ex.

We are killer Alphas now on defense. If they think Berry is a fit, and he comes back, I’m all in. If they don’t, I’m all good with that too.

I don't see the Chiefs bringing him back. But if they did, it should be for league minimum and not a penny more.

Wallcrawler 01-25-2020 02:01 PM

Nobody signed Berry. There was a reason. Until he gets the surgery and properly rehabs, hes a waste of time. Hes barely played any football in 3 years. It sucks he got injured, and I wish the guy the best because when he was right physically, he was amazing.

But his time with KC is done.

dlphg9 01-25-2020 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14751157)
I agree he was left on the field for too long - that much is certain. But it's not like he was getting burned left and right. On that long completion to Gronk, he had good position but Brady just made a play.

Compare that to Scandrick who didn't even know where to line up in mid-December.

Yeah you can say alot of shit about Eric Berry, but saying he was the worst player in that secondary is just insane. Orlando Scandrick was/is trash on the field and off. Dude sucked at football and is trying to get a TV job, but he sucks at that too and now his only hope is to say ridiculous things hoping that it lands him a job. Maybe he could try to fight a wood chipper or see if he can stop a lawnmower blade with his hands? It's basically the same thing as combining his 11 year career into a 30 minute time slot.

dlphg9 01-25-2020 02:14 PM

He will trick some dumbshit GM into signing him. He will pass the physical and participate in everything he needs to get his guaranteed money, then mysteriously be unable to play anymore.

kcjayhawks5 01-25-2020 02:18 PM

would be awesome if he came back and was the old Eric Berry...

crispystl 01-25-2020 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 14751116)
Scamdick and his shitty attitude have to be the worst. We signed the worst player possible when we picked him up.



He played better than Amerson or wtf ever his name was.


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notorious 01-25-2020 02:33 PM

He’s been rehabbing his body for 3 ****ing years. He’s done.

DRM08 01-25-2020 02:34 PM

He's pretty old now. Good luck to him.

suzzer99 01-25-2020 02:34 PM

No way we bring back Berry. This is HB's defense and Mahomes' team now. It would wreck the whole dynamic.

HB says that before a defensive series Mahomes will tell him one word: "lead". Mahomes could never do that with EB.

KCUnited 01-25-2020 02:46 PM

We in the SB

https://i.imgur.com/sRDK9zN.jpg?1

Frazod 01-25-2020 02:51 PM

He’d make a fine Raider.

Titty Meat 01-25-2020 02:51 PM

No thanks. Hes basically missed 3 years in a row

Skyy God 01-25-2020 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14751095)
Sign him for depth or do we re sign Fuller?

**** HoboSpirit with Chris Jones’ dick.

Deberg_1990 01-25-2020 02:52 PM

No thanks. We have younger and better players now.

FloridaMan88 01-25-2020 03:02 PM

An injury-prone 31 year old safety who hasn't played in basically three years with mental/"spirit" issues... no thanks.

notorious 01-25-2020 03:55 PM

Wish he would take his Haglunds to New England.

Bwana 01-25-2020 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14751241)
He’s been rehabbing his body for 3 ****ing years. He’s done.

Yes he is.

FloridaMan88 01-25-2020 04:44 PM

Nice timing for Eric Berry/his agent to put this story out there... the day before the Chiefs are traveling to Miami to begin their Super Bowl week.

He could have remained in his “sabbatical” for another week.

tyecopeland 01-25-2020 04:54 PM

Quote:

NFL Media's Mike Garafolo reports S Eric Berry plans to play in 2020.
Berry intentionally sat out 2019 despite receiving interest from teams this past year in an attempt to get his body and mind ready for the 2020 NFL season. The 3x All-Pro safety will only be 31 next year but has played just three games since the 2016 season ended. Berry will need to prove he's fully healthy to sign a big contract in free agency this offseason. There's a chance Berry can return starting-level play, but signing Berry would be a roll of the dice
.

This was from rotoworld. If it takes him a year to get his mind right how long before it's not right again and he needs another year?

FlaChief58 01-25-2020 05:20 PM

That's a hard pass from me.

FringeNC 01-25-2020 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14751454)
Nice timing for Eric Berry/his agent to put this story out there... the day before the Chiefs are traveling to Miami to begin their Super Bowl week.

He could have remained in his “sabbatical” for another week.

Yeah, but was it really good strategy to remind the league that the Chiefs were better with him?

BossChief 01-25-2020 09:45 PM

Tyrann Matthieu > Eric Berry

Too soon?

warpaint* 01-26-2020 05:40 AM

31
Didn’t play this year
Oft-injured

Love the dude but hard pass.

MIAdragon 01-26-2020 06:27 AM

Not even for free.

InChiefsHeaven 01-26-2020 06:34 AM

He's not even a fit on this defense. There is nobody left really from when he played defense for the Chiefs. This defense would be like "Eric who?"

The Chiefs moved on, quite successfully I might add. Chiefs fans need to do the same. If he gets signed to another team, good for him. But I have not thought about Berry in a very long time. Shit, I've put more thought into missing Kareem Hunt than Eric Berry.

It's over. Move on.

Flying High D 01-26-2020 07:08 AM

Hobo starting to feel a little tingle in his spirit. Would HB ever feel it in his spirit not to play? A reporter needs to ask HB and Frank Clark that question.

SAUTO 01-26-2020 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14751751)
Tyrann Matthieu > Eric Berry

Too soon?

Not too soon at all

Demonpenz 01-26-2020 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 14751910)
He's not even a fit on this defense. There is nobody left really from when he played defense for the Chiefs. This defense would be like "Eric who?"

The Chiefs moved on, quite successfully I might add. Chiefs fans need to do the same. If he gets signed to another team, good for him. But I have not thought about Berry in a very long time. Shit, I've put more thought into missing Kareem Hunt than Eric Berry.

It's over. Move on.

no one that ever played in the SEC doesn't know who Eric Berry is.

Chris Meck 01-26-2020 09:29 AM

people need to quit living in the past.

Chief Northman 01-26-2020 09:56 AM

27 pages in this thread?

CP is better than this. Cut the cord already. Has-been is a has-been.

ToxSocks 02-28-2020 02:16 PM

NFL Network's Jim Trotter reports the Colts are the most likely landing spot for free agent S Eric Berry.

The veteran safety is expected to return in 2020 after sitting out all of last season with injuries. Berry said he received offers in 2019 but wanted to make sure he was healthy enough to play before rushing back. Now comfortable with his playing level, Berry is looking to make comeback and the Colts are the early favorite. Berry is close friends with Colts edge rusher Justin Houston, and he probably wants to play for a playoff-contending team at this stage of his career. With his injury history, any team that signs Berry is taking on risk.
*****

Berry, Houston and Rivers to the Colts?

Dafuq. Twilight Zone weird.

Beerthirty 02-28-2020 02:45 PM

That turf is probably not a wise decision.


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