Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 16821942)

I have a customer who owns 5 Mexican Food Cafes here in the Phoenix area. The past few years we've reprinted their menus 6 times...always to accommodate higher prices. Their typical cost now is about $18.00 per entree...Mexican food.

On a personal note I stopped by a McDonald's today and paid $4.96 for a large order of fries. There's got to be a breaking point for most folks.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16824295)

You said you eat almost 3500 calories a day. That's almost DOUBLE what you probably need, for one. You're not an athlete, at least from what I've gathered, so it's not like you're fueling mega-workouts or anything. Those excess calories are a problem, even if they're all coming from technically "healthy" foods.

You're not about to die but you're also only 38 years old. You said you drink one or two energy drinks per day. They're absolutely terrible for your body. Are they all low-calorie or calorie free? Because if they're not, you're drinking a bunch of sugar as well and that's bad.

Also, your Friday diet looks awful. You make up for a week full of decent food decisions (I mean Chipotle isn't bad as far as fast food goes) by doing this:

Fri breakfast: Ihop eggs, bacon, waffle via Door Dash $25, Red Bull $3
Fri lunch: Five guys burger and fries $15
Fri dinner: Stockhill Ribeye & glass of wine $80
Fri late: Crumbl Cookies $12, Red Bull $3

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16824318)

I already responded to most of this in my other post but I wanted to specifically address the surgery because even though I'm not proud of it, I'm also not one to hide the fact that I had surgery to resolve my weight problem.

It's a cautionary tale. I eat mostly good foods. My average daily diet was actually a little better than yours in terms of healthy foods. The problem is that, like you, I was consuming about double the amount of those healthy foods per day and didn't think what the excess calories would do to me.

Like you, I continued eating like I did in high school/college without taking into account any of the other mitigating factors that were present at the time. There were so many little things I was doing back then that I didn't even realize it when I stopped doing them. And of course, I was climbing the corporate ladder early in my career as well. 8 hours days turned into 10, then 12, and then sometimes even 16. I had to travel a lot.

I never really gave it any thought until about 4 years ago. I saw a picture of myself and almost didn't know who I was. Like I said, I was 140 when I graduated college. I was 180 when I got married for the 2nd time.

After 20 years of all the things I described above, I weighed 285 pounds. I was making good, conscious decisions about food most of the time, especially later in that period but I was simply eating too many calories a day.

So yeah, my problems were pretty drastic. At least bad enough that I felt the need to have 3/4 of my stomach removed, which is what I did.

Again, I'm not proud of it but I'm also not going to hide it. It's part of who I am. And I''m glad I did. I weigh the same now, 3 months from my 23rd anniversary, as I did when I got married.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16824379)

Pic of KCUnited's "salad".

https://www.certifiedangusbeef.com/r...df2962f80f.jpg

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16824384)

That burrito bowl contains more than 80% of the daily recommended level of sodium.

And 68g of carbs is a lot. Eating that thing over two meals would be a lot healthier.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16824376)

I'm not going to judge a diet.

I've done horrifying things to myself. Insane amounts of alcohol mixed with the fattiest, saltiest shit on the planet. Man, was it great!

When you get older your body will tell you to chill out a little bit, though. It didn't hit me until this past year.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16824379)

Pic of KCUnited's "salad".

https://www.certifiedangusbeef.com/r...df2962f80f.jpg

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16824385)

A friend of mine had the band surgery for that, dude dropped 100lbs in the snap of a finger.

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16824395)

LMAO

Trying to weigh a salad at the self checkout while high could've very well contributed.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16824390)

If you can eat an entire burrito bowl you should be literally a 1 real meal a day eater with the others being very small snack type things.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16824390)

If you can eat an entire burrito bowl you should be literally a 1 real meal a day eater with the others being very small snack type things.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16824401)

My surgeon doesn't do lap bands anymore, they're kind of complicated and they don't always work the best.

I'd say 90% of the surgeries they do are sleeve gastrectomies, which is what I have. It's unlike a gastric bypass in that the stomach is still in the digestive "pathway" if you will. So none of the complications that come with bypass, which is extremely invasive and certainly life-altering in a way that's irreversible.

The sleeve gastrectomy is really a breeze comparatively. The stomach is shaped like a kidney bean. They just draw a line from the opening of the esophagus to the opening of the small intestine and cut off about 3/4 of the stomach. So you still have a stomach, it's just 1/4 of the size.

The only real potential complication other than stretching out your stomach and gaining weight back (which I haven't done because I simply can't eat too much anymore, it makes me sick) is vitamin deficiencies. Those are pretty easily rectified and nowhere near as severe as the vitamin problems that come with a bypass.

PS: almost forgot, I ended up losing about 110 total pounds. If I had to guess (my memory is fuzzy, it was 4 years ago now), I lost about 40 pounds of that prior to surgery because I had to be on a special diet for a month prior or they wouldn't do my surgery. The other 70 pounds came off in the first year after I had it done.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16823351)

That's disgusting. Who eats like that?

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16824399)

Went to Panda Express today, ordered a bowl, no drinks, and escaped for less than $9.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16824500)

Panda Express is terrible.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16824500)

Panda Express is terrible.

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16824372)

I'm not a buffet person but I am drawn to the occasional grocery store salad bar that hasn't already been pillaged

Not sure if the price per lb has skyrocketed or if I was just really high but the other day I somehow walked out with an $18 salad

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 16824543)

Just wait until California implements no diesel trucks to harvest vegetables.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16824500)

Panda Express is terrible.

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 16824567)

If it tastes like chicken, its chicken.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16824574)

Unless it comes from Subway, in which case it turns out that it's really turkey. Like their tuna fish salad. Ack.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16824416)

I had to quit going to Chipotle... throw in a bunch of cheese, guac, sour cream... you can inhale one in several bites, and yeah it's like 1500 calories or more.

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16824399)

Went to Panda Express today, ordered a bowl, no drinks, and escaped for less than $9.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16824376)

I'm not going to judge a diet.

I've done horrifying things to myself. Insane amounts of alcohol mixed with the fattiest, saltiest shit on the planet. Man, was it great!

When you get older your body will tell you to chill out a little bit, though. It didn't hit me until this past year.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16824721)

But apparently Im lying.

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16824818)

Pretty much this. Life is too short to not enjoy tasty food. Not really interested in living an extra 5 years if I have to go most of the prime of my life eating tree bits and bland chicken to get it. If you’re a super whale or something, put down the Ho-Hos and go for a walk. Otherwise, enjoy good food in appropriate moderation and you should be fine.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16824944)

I just don't eat as much of it. Oh, and I don't eat bread.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16824376)

When you get older your body will tell you to chill out a little bit, though.

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16824818)

Pretty much this. Life is too short to not enjoy tasty food. Not really interested in living an extra 5 years if I have to go most of the prime of my life eating tree bits and bland chicken to get it. If you’re a super whale or something, put down the Ho-Hos and go for a walk. Otherwise, enjoy good food in appropriate moderation and you should be fine.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16824949)

I've seen enough people barely make it to retirement age before having preventable health issues... sometimes completely ignoring that chill out alarm, other times not getting one.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16824949)

Sort of, but if you're getting labs once per year, then yes.... you'd hopefully also catch the silent killers.

I've seen enough people barely make it to retirement age before having preventable health issues... sometimes completely ignoring that chill out alarm, other times not getting one.

It's not so much about getting to 95 instead of 90, but making sure I can enjoy some years of retirement once I finally get there. And yeah, it doesn't take anything extreme (I enjoy the hell out of red meat, bourbon, beer, etc.), just being cognizant of the bad shit you can do to your body over the course of decades and going to the doctor every once in a while.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16824948)

I went to Panera last night. Only my 2nd time eating Panera. Ordered a couple of sammiches for myself, wife and child.

Worker says, "Sorry, we're out of chips. Would you like a side of bread? "

....A ****ing side of bread to go with my sammiches? LMAO

To make matters worse, i get home and the mother****ers didn't make/include my sammich in the order. So my wife and son ate Panera, not me.

I aint too mad tho. They comp'd me pretty good for the **** up.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16824959)

The last time I was at Panera they gave me a piece of a baguette to go with a half sandwich. At the counter. I didn't even order chips or anything like that.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16824721)

I get a chicken 3-pointer with extra steak. So its steak, grilled chicken and brown rice. No sauce or any other shit so its pretty healthy. I also get everything plain. No condiments or cheese. But apparently Im lying.

https://fastfoodnutrition.org/chipot...n-burrito-bowl

190 cals in a chicken burrito bowl. 15% sodium. Not bad at all and I get it with brown rice. Can't imagine eating anything that didn't have vegetables in it that would be any healthier.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16824961)

Here sir, have a side of bread with your sandwich. LOL WTF

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16824954)

Ive been having persistent heart burn and indigestion problems for awhile now. I know i can fix it but....that would require me cutting out like 90% of the shit i like to eat.

No tomato based sauces? Nothing spicy or acidic? Well ****, if it doesn't include those elements then idk wtf else to eat. Just kill me now.

I've also developed a lactose intolerance. Fuggit, i'll trade a night of bubble guts for a bowl of ice cream any day. It is....what it is.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16824948)

I went to Panera last night. Only my 2nd time eating Panera. Ordered a couple of sammiches for myself, wife and child.

Worker says, "Sorry, we're out of chips. Would you like a side of bread? "

....A ****ing side of bread to go with my sammiches? LMAO

To make matters worse, i get home and the mother****ers didn't make/include my sammich in the order. So my wife and son ate Panera, not me.

I aint too mad tho. They comp'd me pretty good for the **** up.

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16824962)

BLyin fits.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16824949)

Sort of, but if you're getting labs once per year, then yes.... you'd hopefully also catch the silent killers.

I've seen enough people barely make it to retirement age before having preventable health issues... sometimes completely ignoring that chill out alarm, other times not getting one.

It's not so much about getting to 95 instead of 90, but making sure I can enjoy some years of retirement once I finally get there. And yeah, it doesn't take anything extreme (I enjoy the hell out of red meat, bourbon, beer, etc.), just being cognizant of the bad shit you can do to your body over the course of decades and going to the doctor every once in a while.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16824973)

Chicken Noodle in a bread bowl is 🔥

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16824978)

Bread bowl? Why? I mean yeah it probably tastes great. But the average bread bowl adds 750 calories of pure carbs to your meal.

Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 16821942)

I have a customer who owns 5 Mexican Food Cafes here in the Phoenix area. The past few years we've reprinted their menus 6 times...always to accommodate higher prices. Their typical cost now is about $18.00 per entree...Mexican food.

On a personal note I stopped by a McDonald's today and paid $4.96 for a large order of fries. There's got to be a breaking point for most folks.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16824978)

Bread bowl? Why? I mean yeah it probably tastes great. But the average bread bowl adds 750 calories of pure carbs to your meal.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16824997)

I dont care about calories. Until I get fat its not a thing I worry about. Maybe it is Because I was so skinny in middle school and early HS that Im self conscious but Id much rather be 195 to 210 than 140 to 170.

Everyone is so fearful of bread I dont quite get it. I love bread and butter. Some steakhouses I go to because their bread and butter is so good and Ill eat like 4 of them on my own. And its free.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16825042)

I used to love bread bowls. Bread. Pasta. Rice, but that's a given.

I don't think bread/carbs in and of themselves are really that big a health problem, unless you are fat/getting fat. Of course, eventually your metabolism changes and converts all that stuff directly into fat, but until then . . .

The worst stuff is the sodium, 'bad' fats, sugars, and all the processed stuff. That shit starts killing you way before a bread bowl will.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16824977)

As a minor digression, I'll occasionally hear people say, "The years at the end aren't great anyway, so I'll just [drink/smoke/fight/whatever]." The problem is that the years at the end aren't the years that you lose. You always have the unhealthy years at the end. The years you lose are the healthy years right before the unhealthy years.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16825048)

Most bread uses processed flour and sugar. :evil:

No I agree with you it's not bread/carbs themselves that are bad for you by themselves but in excesss, unless you're baking your own bread or getting high-end stuff, you're ingesting a lot of things that you said are bad - too much sodium, too many preservatives, loaded with processed ingredients, especially sugar.

You're far better off eating the wheat that it came from than eating bread at a restaurant or buying it at the store.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16824973)

Chicken Noodle in a bread bowl is 🔥

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16825070)

You should try clam chowder in a bread bowl.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16824972)

If I ever get that tick disease that makes you allergic to red meat, I'll be right there with you.

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 16825105)

My biggest fear in life.

If I ever get it, I'm just going to go back to ****ing crazy chicks and go out in a crock pot.

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 16825006)

Thanks Biden

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16825082)

There was this joint in upstate NY somewhere and they served clam chowder in a hash brown bowl. A bowl made of hash browns . . .

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16825081)

I should've mentioned, I don't eat much store-bought bread anymore either, so there's that. Local bakeries for the most part. And we're literally taking maybe 8 slices/month. Most of my carbs are in the form of rice. Being Korean, it's like a law. If I don't consume at least a half metric shit ton of rice every month, I lose my verified Korean card.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825142)

You're Korean? What's the deal with kimchi? That stuff is gross.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825142)

You're Korean? What's the deal with kimchi? That stuff is gross.

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 16825163)

I love the stuff. One of my dad's Army buddies was married to a Korean. She made her own and turned my mom and I on to it.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16825167)

I once had it at a beer/dinner pairing thing with an IPA and it did a helluva job removing the bitterness from the IPA.

So, that's all I know about kimchi.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825130)

You've been a member here for years and you're just now telling us this? Why do you hate us?

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825142)

You're Korean? What's the deal with kimchi? That stuff is gross.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16824721)

I get a chicken 3-pointer with extra steak. So its steak, grilled chicken and brown rice. No sauce or any other shit so its pretty healthy. I also get everything plain. No condiments or cheese. But apparently Im lying.

https://fastfoodnutrition.org/chipot...n-burrito-bowl

190 cals in a chicken burrito bowl. 15% sodium. Not bad at all and I get it with brown rice. Can't imagine eating anything that didn't have vegetables in it that would be any healthier.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16825055)

Yeah, and if I was guaranteed to live until I was 110, but could take off a decade of my life by eating whatever I wanted, I might just do that.... but, if we're talking the first decade or two of retirement, I kind of want to see that part.

I also saw a study a while back that says despite people thinking your personal rate of change plateaus as you reach adulthood, you tend to keep changing your hobbies/interests/etc. at the same rate or even more often as you age into and beyond your 40s/50s/so on... so I think that fallacy leads people into thinking they'll be bored out of their mind at 80 or 90, so who cares about those year.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825175)

I prefer it over eating live spiders, but that's about it.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16825221)

Everyone in my family (males) lives until late 50s so Im good. I know I only have a decade or two left. Thats why Im living life.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825291)

This guy is not bothered by restaurant costs. 1,000 consecutive days (excluding Sundays) of eating at Chick Fil A.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/n...KOLWRY5g5aHtwM

I really like Chick Fil A, but I wouldn't eat for 1,000 consecutive days at any restaurant.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825291)

This guy is not bothered by restaurant costs. 1,000 consecutive days (excluding Sundays) of eating at Chick Fil A.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/n...KOLWRY5g5aHtwM

I really like Chick Fil A, but I wouldn't eat for 1,000 consecutive days at any restaurant.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825291)

This guy is not bothered by restaurant costs. 1,000 consecutive days (excluding Sundays) of eating at Chick Fil A.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/n...KOLWRY5g5aHtwM

I really like Chick Fil A, but I wouldn't eat for 1,000 consecutive days at any restaurant.

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 16825294)

Dinner buffet at Bellagio?

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 16825294)

Dinner buffet at Bellagio?

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16825332)

Do they have lemon meringue pie?

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16822201)

OMG...I worked at McD's in 1986. That was a trip to watch.

Did you notice that there was not ONE fatty in line at all? All the workers were efficient and smiling (granted they were on camera but still). Honestly, it was a fun job and I had a blast working there, especially if I was closing. We'd be cleaning up with Metallica or Iron Maiden blasting the boom box.

Good times. 99 cent Big Macs were a bitch though...

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 16825335)

Across from the caviar station and roasted boar.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16825296)

this reminds me of the documentary about the guy who had mcdonalds B-L-D every day for a year and how it wrecked his body