Murdering someone?

I have no idea what this has to do with our conversation.

:facepalm:

I guess it’s that point in the thread where someone goes completely off the rails spouting weird shit.

That must be why Chris Jones catches so much flak for crying during the national anthem, right? Lol

In Williams' case, the problem isn't showing emotion, it's the level of emotion as well as why he's showing them.

Bawling like a baby in mommy's arms because you lost is pathetic, if the person crying is over the age of 12.

I made the analogy because it feels like some of you are comparing nonsense to true off the field issues.

A little hyperbolic sure but the point remains.

Again, you're just hating to hate...dude has done nothing to show he can't be an elite NFL QB.

Time will tell.

I’m done here.

Because people aren't allowed to show emotions how THEY want too? Chris Jones doesn't catch flak for crying because he's a player on the Chiefs. Go back and look at what everyone said about the Eagles coach for doing the same thing.

...or Knowshon Moreno.

It's changing.

More and more dudes in their 20s and 30s will openly tell their guy friends that they love them.

Even here in Casa de Neanderthal.

Never happened when i was growing up.
You'd have all sorts of self declared men afraid to catch the gay.

The older generation better get used to guys like Caleb Williams because there are going to be more just like him making their way into their sports.

Good thing for them is they can sit in their recliners with a beer in their hand and bitch about how "men used to be men" while no one listens to them.

GenZ legit doesn't give a **** and is more open about those things, so they are being judged hard by the old guys.

Hence this thread.

Obviously they will stop watching just like when they stopped watching when dudes took a knee...uh huh

Cam Newton is an example of a player who was pretty flamboyant while at the same time was performing as a top QB in the NFL. He caught shit for it but he seemed to love it. Caleb seems more "normal" when I hear him speak than what I remember from Cam.

Who said that? Williams is free to bawl like an entitled toddler any time he wants, obviously.

Jones doesn't catch much flak from anyone. I wasn't only talking about Chiefs fans, I meant the public in general.

There is an obvious difference between shedding a few tears during a national anthem before a big game, and bawling your eyes out because you lost.

The "old people think men showing emotions in public is bad" argument is bullshit. Men have shown emotions in public for far longer than I've been alive without catching shit for it, and that includes pro athletes.

It's also easy to throw stones from your high horse, if we didn't have Mahomes everyone would want this dude and if you didn't you'd be the one who would be questioned.

"An entitled toddler"

LOL what on earth...dude cried cause he lost a football game, what AN ENTITLED LOSER BABY!!!!

Absolutely. If I were a Bears fan and there was any possibility that my team was going to pass on Caleb Williams I'd be panicking right now. He's the only pick.

Just think about how many threads we'd have about how "but he paints his nails!" or "did you see that his phone case was pink?!".

Guys bitching about how they'll never watch the Chiefs again if they draft that "gay QB".

He bawled like a baby in his mom's arms, in public, because he lost a football game.

How many times have you seen an NFL QB do that?

Why is our fan base full of old dudes who think everything is gay, like WTF? It's not 1964 anymore, stop freaking out over dumb shit.

Even if he is great we won't see him except on the off year of NFC division play. Let the cursed Bears franchise figure it out and if you're lucky, we'll see you in the Super Bowl young man.

Who cares? At least he cared about the game to the extent it mattered to him, would it be better if he gave no ****s?

A man painting his fingernails, having a pink phone, etc. is pretty ****ing gay guys.

That doesn't mean that he's going to be a bust. It has no impact on the field.

But let's stop pretending that isn't effeminate behavior.

Again, nobody on CP did this kind of pearl clutching when we all clowned Brady for kissing his son on the lips (among other things).

No it wouldn't be better if he didn't care at all. Ideally, he'd find some middle ground between "child being denied candy" and Jay Cutler.

There is a large difference in making fun of a dude for something such is the Brady stuff then there is in trying to mentally evaluate someone and saying they are going to be a terrible player.

People clowned on Brady for shit being weird, people are taking Williams and saying he will obviously suck ass because of it, that isn't the same thing.

I agree that it's silly to pretend that it has any impact on whether he will be a hit or bust.

Pink is not inherently gay. Good lord.

Yea it's a color, people need to get over that.

By itself no. I have no problem wearing a pink shirt for instance.

But when you combine it with painting your finger nails and other stuff, it's pretty gay.

Guess what I did when my girls were little? Let them paint my fingernails and toe nails. I also wore pink.

Guess I’m gay.

So now we're going to pretend that this isn't a completely different context than choosing to do it as your style? You're being obtuse.

It's ****ing weird how defensive you get about shit like this.

You said it yourself. Your "little girls". Not your little boys. Your little girls. That's what they do.

I don't mean that Caleb literally sucks cock because he paints his nails. I'm just saying, as a man, it is objectively gay (meaning effeminate) when you combine the painted nails, pink phone, etc.

Even most girls would say that is pretty gay. Why is that so controversial? LMAO

The difference is....if it was my "little boys"....I still wouldn't give a shit. Why? Because as far as concerns go....that's 6 feet under the ground.

Well I think that's just a little weird. Sorry.

If my son did that and was actually gay, I wouldn't be a hateful bigot. I'd love him all the same, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me even a little.

Can’t really compare the two. You’re talking about something Tom Brady-related on a Chiefs message board lol outside of the Patriots nerds here, I’m not sure there’s ever been a positive sentiment uttered about the guy in CP history. He would get torn apart for donating all of his career earnings to funding child cancer research.

On the flip side, this board has very little reason to even give a shit about Caleb Williams. He doesn’t play for a college team that rivals Kansas, Missouri or Iowa squads and he won’t even be an AFC rival. We will only play this dude once every four years or if he’s lucky enough to make it to the Super Bowl. People here really shouldn’t care.

Some definitely are telling jokes but you know a lot of what’s being said is simple bigotry.

Apparently it’s been a thing. I Googled it and found pics of Brad Pitt, Kurt Cobain, Steven Tyler, and David Bowie with painted nails as well.

Yeah, this is definitely an issue. Like when Dak Prescott made comments on struggling with depression and Skip Bayless tore him apart for being weak.

Then we wonder why male suicide rates are so high..

OK, well I’m glad you figured out this one simple trick that an entire league full of NFL coaches with thousands of years of combined experience never realized while Brees was shredding the league- just have the defensive linemen put their hands up!

And idk what to tell you about the Mahomes stuff. College is different than the pros. Trevor Lawrence would have been the #1 overall pick for like three straight years if he was eligible to enter the draft. There is no shame in saying that he was a better college prospect than Mahomes.

I love pink. Purple is even better. And don’t even get me started on animal print. I love that shit.

It's even more weird to be emotional about what colors someone wears.

You looking to expand your stable?
Asking for a friend.

Since when does painting your nails equal being gay?

And that sentence is pretty hilarious. I'd love him all the same BUT.

I'm not even remotely "emotional" about this you ****ing dipshit.

Lol.. come on, dawg. Only thing that’s “objectively gay” is ****ing dudes in the ass.

What you’re talking about is just cultural stuff, which is about as subjective as it gets.

I'm going to enjoy this thread.

I said that painting your nails doesn't mean you literally suck cock, but if your son likes to pain his finger nails and wear pink at a very young age, there's a decent chance that he's gay (hence "and he's gay").

I've just been waiting for you to attack my character over this. It is completely ****ing normal for a straight man to prefer his son not be gay. There are multiple reasons for that beyond just being an ignorant bigot. Seriously, go **** yourself for that last part. You can be such a virtue signaling bundle of sticks. Guaranteed you're a little bitch in real life. Your wife 100% wears the pants.

Well, obviously it's more than just this. Didn't someone also say he wore a dress or some such craziness? If all of these things are true (or even if most are) then this guy has issues.

Any more edits you'd like to throw in there?

For someone who said they aren't being emotional about this....you sure are getting emotional.

Joe Namath wore a fur coat on the sidelines of NFL games he was playing in 50 years ago. Dudes doing things like this is nothing new. It's usually a statement that they are so confident that they enjoy breaking social norms of colors and clothing. There are limits to this probably for all of us. If Caleb walks out to a press conference wearing a dress that'll probably push past the mark. Having a pink phone, though? That's nothing. Zero. Painting nails? That's kinda new for me, but it seems no more effeminate than wearing earrings.

Oh I'm definitely being emotional now, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Caleb ****ing Williams you ****ing moron.

It's you attacking my character for having a different opinion because you're a virtue signaling bundle of sticks that's constantly on your moral high horse on this forum.

Hey.. **** you!

In all seriousness, you just unlocked some core memories for me. Remember when it was totally gay for dudes to wear earrings in their right ear but totally completely NOT gay to wear an earring in your left ear? LMAO Good times.

ROFL

Attacking your character? For simply pointing out the statement that ended in but?

I'm pretty sure you read way more into that than was intended. It had nothing to do you with you and your son and more that you added a caveat onto the end of a sentence.

If you got all up in arms about that....then that says something about you. But go ahead and keep telling me who you think I am. It's funny.

Oh now you're going to pretend there wasn't an obvious implication that I don't actually love my son unconditionally?

Yep, I remember a time when left ear only was "okay", but right ear meant you were a fully out-of-the-closet homosexual man regardless of how much you deny it.

Nice strawman. There's a big difference between letting your little girl paint your fingernails and this guy doing it while also doing the pink bling with his phone and pink lipstick. He's either really into the weird trans stuff or he's trolling us. I haven't figured out which.

Oh, and yeah, I've let a friends little grand daughter (4 years old at the time) paint my nails. So let's stop with this silliness. Really, when I heard about this guy wanting a stake in the team he goes to, I instantly didn't like him. Yeah, I know people try to claim that was debunked but I'm not convince. Between this and that thing, he's kind of a nut.

Or maybe he's just eccentric according to you guys.

Wait...painting your nails and having a pink phone case is now trans?

There was no implication on my side. Maybe you should look into yourself and figure out why you reacted that way.

This thread is fun

Just saying, the thread got bumped with:
Clearly people are bothered by it. I personally have no clue why, and that's not just me virtue signaling... if I saw him walking down the street wearing a dress, I'd think "interesting fashion choice", but wouldn't think much else of it in terms of mental health or whatever. And the fact that the video below even shows him making fun of it seems like he's partly trolling the shit out of people who are so bothered by it.

Unfortunately, it could have an impact on his career because teammates and coaches could be just as bothered by it than many here... and like Russel Wilson has been brought up several times, if you're going to be weird, you better be good.

And pink lipstick and wearing a dress.

If you think those are normal things for a man to do then I don't know what to tell you other than we obviously have different views on what is a stable person.

It was a clear "everything you say before the word but doesn't really mean anything" response, and now you're playing dumb and gaslighting me.

Point to me where not dressing like a "normal man" means you're into trans shit?

Interesting that you included him not being stable now because of his fashion choices too.

You sure about that?

What color nails would you have if had to?

Again, haven't been even remotely emotional until my character was attacked for having an opinion.

I literally said that Caleb wearing pink, painting his fingernails, etc. means nothing about him as a prospect. I was agreeing with both sides until Pest crossed a line.

Black. Definitely.

Is painting your nails black okay? Black is a pretty manly color. Blue maybe?

I think it's hot to have nicely manicured fingers coming at me. But I'm not the biggest fan of white nails.

You know what's hot tho?
Guys who couldn't care less.

They just usually don't work out. There's way more Ryan Leaf's than there are Peyton Manning's. Because of this people are just naturally skeptical. Then you add the fact he wants to own the team that drafts him. He paints his fingernails. Idk...it's just easy to say fck this guy. That's all

That's why we paint our nails too.

Did he wear a dress? I mean, that's what I read somewhere, possibly here. If he did then tell me why you think a man wearing a dress is normal.

Nope, scratch that. Even if you do think that a man wearing a dress is normal, I don't really want to know why you think that. It is not normal no matter how you try to justify it.

The only reason I said trans is because that seems to be the big thing these days. I really don't know if that's his thing or if he's just trying to get attention. Either way, it doesn't seem stable to me.

If he starts painting his nails white because we know what that means.....

Wait. What?

Well first off you should probably learn what each of those means. A dude wearing a dress isn’t trans. That’s more a long the line of cross dressing. Trans is changing his gender.

Means good pussy lol

If a woman paints her nails white that means good pussy?

Never heard that one lol.

It was for a GQ fashion thing.


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Is this like the loofah code in The Viklages?

Almost a guarantee your Great Grandpa and maybe Grandpa (depending on how old) wore dresses as a little kid.

Do you not think he is normal?

Oh God….the horror.

I don't think you can compare the actions of Namath, and damn sure not Rodman, to the actions of many of today's athletes. Both leagues, and society in general, have shifted so far things just aren't the same.

Rodman could do the gayest thing imaginable and people wouldn't call him gay. I highly doubt we'll see this kid rise to that level, but who knows. So far, he's failing miserably.

The same reason I wouldn't want my kid to have anything else that makes him abnormal. You don't get to tell everybody how hard it is being gay, then act shocked when parents don't want their kids lives to be any harder than they have to be.

Also, because I want my son to have a family of his own one day with my own biological grandchildren.

Gay doesn't mean effeminate. Also I don't consider having painted nails as being gay. I don't know very many gay men, but the ones I do know sure as shit don't paint their nails, so I fail to see how it is gay. I'd consider is abnormal or weird for a guy to paint his nails, but only be ause it's not a societal norm.

And how does wearing a pink shirt and pink fingernail polish prevent your son from being straight and having a family?

I know the technical definition of gay. Are you really going to play this stupid? People use gay to simply mean effeminate all of the time.