Belcher, Baldwin, Asamoah and Hudson are all average or worse players that get incredible amounts of praise here. Also, Albert was awful until last season, but on this board it's like a single good season means he's been dominant his entire career.

You're forgetting Manning is better than he was before with his new bionic neck.

62 TDs minimum, 5200-6000 yds, and I'm not sure how but 28 wins this year.

Seriously. I like Decker, I really do. I think he's dynamic and will won day earn himself some Pro Bowls. I also think he's a far better WR than Delirium Tremens. But the dude is made out of ****ing balsa wood. He can't stay healthy. It's the same reason why I like Moeaki a lot but will never go down on him on this forum because he just will never instill confidence that he can stay on the field.

And Knowshon is ****ing garbage. Yes, Belcher, Baldwin, Asamoah, and Hudson are ALL > that piece of shit. Get that horseshit out of here.

I never said Knowshon was any good. I wouldn't care if they cut him tomorrow. I was simply responding to the notion that Chiefs fans on here aren't homers. Just read anything Direkshun has ever posted.

I think he can handle himself.



Did you read what he posted? McCluster is shit.

Oh bull ****ing shit. Belcher is a young, improving player that's a solid run defender with a weakness in pass coverage at this point. Almost everyone acknowledges that. The next 3 are young and loaded with potential that CP was high on before they were selected. Albert's taken quite a beating, but has outperformed the guy you donkeys have labeled an All Pro LT the last 2 seasons.

Wow, I was just looking at some stats, and Charles and Moreno are twinsies or something. They both have 12 rushing TDs, 6 receiving TDs, 6 rushing fumbles (5 lost), and 2 receiving fumbles (2 lost).

This is what I'm talking about. Ask a Broncos fan about Joe Mays. 90% of them will tell you that he needs to be replaced as soon as possible. Last season Mays was better than Belcher in run stopping, he was better than Belcher at rushing the passer, and he was better than Belcher in coverage. He's also only been playing for one season more than Belcher.

Also, only a complete Chiefs homer could think that Albert had a better 2010 than Clady.

You're not insinuating that they're on the same level.......... Are you?

No, Charles has way more yards, and they aren't even used the same way. It's just weird that their stats line up like that.

Wow Mays is so much better than Belcher. It's almost as if he's playing a COMPLETELY different position than him.

Next thing you'll tell me that Elvis Dumervil has better stats than Tyson Jackson.

PFF thinks Joe Mays is the best run defending ILB in all of football, 3-4 or 4-3....

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We don't, but hey, that's what makes horse races.

That's fine. I don't pretend that PFF is the God of football evaluations. I actually don't think too highly of them, they don't even have access to coaching tape. (They will this year though)

You are very good at completely missing the point. Are my posts confusing?

But anyway, they are both ILBs with the primary responsibility of stopping the run. Is that really COMPLETELY different?

Given the above admissions, would you care to explain why you even bothered posting the crap from PFF in the first place? :spock:

Because I paid for access to their stats and want to at least get some of my money's worth.

Oh. Well in that case, you should most likely post them where they might actually be appreciated. http://www.orangemane.com/BB/index.php :D

No, YOU'RE missing MY point.

Belcher plays a very unsexy role. He's essentially the FB of the defense. His coverage skills aren't great, but that would be like bitching about the fullback's inability to get open and make athletic catches like a WR or TE over defenders.

This isn't a perfect comparison, but it's pretty close. Even in 3-4 schemes Belcher did far less than someone like Mays was asked to do. He certainly wasn't asked to tackle like a punk ass bitch and take down from the neck.

THAT'S the reason why Chiefs fans aren't having their periods about replacing Belcher. And it's why the Chiefs front office and coaches have invested very little in getting an upgrade over him. It's really not necessary, and frankly, it's a waste.

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LMAO

Joe Mays doesn't take no shit.

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Please explain what Mays is asked to do that Belcher isn't.

Moeaki got KTFO

WOW! 12 missed tackles??

Bust.

And only 5 assists? Clearly he's too slow to get over to help his teammates.

Mays has a problem with going for the big hit too often. It is kinda weird how the two guys on the list with the most missed tackles are the guys ranked 1 and 2 against the run.

I guess it kind of makes sense, if you are constantly putting yourself in position to make plays against the run you are going to get burned every now and then.

I'd like to see the stats from the back breaking big gainers that he's giving up going for that big hit. I'm sure that'd be hilarious. Puts himself into a position to make plays then misses them.

Bust.

LMAO

He was a 6th round pick.

Well that explains all the missed tackles. I wouldn't expect much out of him this year. You'll be looking for an upgrade next year.

You just trolled the shit out of me. :banghead:

Everything.

OLBs in the 4-3 can do almost anything depending on the coverage and personnel on the field.

In Crennel's scheme, Belcher's main job is to blow up blocks on running plays, whether it's a pulling guard or a fullback trying to spring that last hole. The majority of the time on running plays, he ain't filling gaps for shit. Thus his low percentage of tackles made per running play from the PFF chart Knowmo posted.

hmmmmm....double the missed tackles in 60ish fewer attempts? you're pathetic, man. (re: mays vs. belcher)

I never get tired of watching this one. 25 years from now this may be the reason Moeaki's brain is being dissected in a lab.

I see the problem. You, for some reason, are under the impression that Mays is an OLB.

He isn't.

The job description you wrote for Belcher is exactly May's job as well.

Yep, Mays is a Mike.

There's something about the Donkey uniform that makes everyone look like a cum guzzler. Just an observation.

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Free agent S Jim Leonhard has agreed on a 1-year deal w/Denver. Worked out there today, a day after visiting Buffalo. Bills also made offer

Broke dick.

Leonhard is a good player. He would start for the Chiefs.

LMAO

Dumbass

I see you know nothing about our roster. Shocking.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL .......U so crazy

Agreed. He would be a solid special teams addition.

Leonard is SO good that he just now signed with a team. 10 days into camp...

Guys, I don't any rational person would suggest he would be a starting safety for us. That would be crazier than suggesting Champ Bailey is a better corner than Brandon Flowers.

He would. He is a better player than Lewis. His football IQ alone would make everyone in your young secondary better.

If he's so good, why was he a FA at this point in the yr?

Guys like Cedric Benson are still out there. Maybe Leonhard was asking for too much money early on.

because he's Sammy Knight

LMAO

Wrong. He'd make a great nickel safety and punt team gunner for us, though.

He signed with Denver because he was told he would have a chance to start there.

READ: Denver has dick for defenders in the backfield, and they begged him not to leave. And when I say begged, they overpaid him out of desperation. Enjoy Bob Sanders 2.0.

FYP

Suck it

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OUTLOOK

The Chiefs should be the overwhelming favorites to win the AFC West based on their personnel. They are the most talented team in the division on both sides of the ball, and the return of several key playmakers should make them a popular sleeper to make a run at the AFC crown. Although they must develop an identity on offense to suit their talent, there is a lot to like about the Chiefs heading into the 2012 campaign.

Hard.

Dumbass

A lot of people are hopping on the Chiefs bandwagon this offseason. Good for you. There is no chance the Chiefs will finish with a better record than Denver though.

He is only 29 years old.

No chance? You honestly think you'll finish with a better record than us if Peyton goes down?

You must leave for a yr if that doesnt happen.

If Manning goes down you will finish with a better record than Denver. So I guess you still have a small chance.

I want to see how healthy Denver is at the end of training camp before I make a bet like that. If Von Miller goes down or we lose a couple key starters I won't be as confident.

I'm not betting with that welcher. Anyone would be foolish to do so.

And his dick is as broke as a 92 year old.

The Jets had worse safeties than us last few years and they didn't want anything to do with him

Holy shit :doh!:

They can sign Zach Thomas and have imaginary bike races together on the stationary.

Hey now we are being "considered" as a favorite in the afc. WE HAVE A CHANCE! Like in the thread about Terrell Davis being "considered" for the hall of fame,lol!

Peyton struggles against 3-4s. The majority of the league is 3-4. The rest of the division is 3-4. Romeo is a mastermind at stopping peyton. They have 1 good reciever. Amd old ass runningback. A slop defense outside of their passrushers and a quarterback that is one good blindside hit from being retired.


I like your chances.

Good? *chuckle* Who's that? Besides that, spot on.

If we are going to pick the division winner based off QB rather than team, why not pick the Chargers? They have the best QB and a better defense than Denver and Oakland.

Have you not watched San Diego the last couple years? They are a shitty team and the media has finally realized this.

Had more to do with my opinion of Denver than anything. I've picked the Chiefs all offseason. I'm just saying if he wants to pick the team with the better QB, go with Eggo and you even get a superior defense to boot. I have the Donkeys a close third and Oakland a definitive 4th.

Leonhard was the 17th ranked safety last year, Lewis was #30. Looking at just coverage, Leonhard was #6, while Lewis was #27.

Didn't Leonhard basically shatter his knee last year?

Knowmo selected to start the season with pre-existing injuries turned off.

Lewis is also 5yrs younger. Lewis had more tackles and 2 more INTs.

I'll take youth.

"Although they must someday acquire and use an actual Quarterback"...

Yep, that's how it reads to me.

This

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I love how the fans go nuts as soon as Peyton starts audibling . That was the moment when they realized that Peyton ****ing Manning was their starting QB. They better not do that once the regular season starts though. LMAO