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2. This is a non issue. You aren't buying these systems JUST to use 3rd party services. You buy these systems to get the full use out of all the features. One of those features is online gaming which requires a PS+ or Gold acct. So in order to use one of the most basic functions of the system, you have already met the requirement for all remaining apps without an extra expense. This is just a talking point people like to complain about like it affects the way they use their systems - it doesn't. 3. I was with you. I didn't really care for the Kinect & it was likely going to be one of the reasons I went PS first this round. But, after seeing the Kinect in action, it's pretty sweet. I can understand not wanting it and it being the determining factor to prevent you (or anyone else) from buying a XBO though. |
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Could be wrong though. |
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If it were my only system, I wouldn't have access to Netflix during the months there wasn't any games that I wanted to play online. Or i'd simply have to pay for LIVE. |
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I could see in your case that it would be an issue - but for 95% of console gamers they are buying to play games online. |
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I think it's dumb that the PS4 doesn't support 5ghz wifi
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We buy these systems to PLAY GAMES. They don't necessarily HAVE to be online either. So with Microsoft, I'm forced to have TWO devices in my entertainment center - one to play games and one to watch movies. With the PS4, I can do both in one box. |
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In your opinion, what percentage of people do you think buys these systems for gaming - both offline & online vs. those that buy these systems for offline gaming only? I would guess a very high majority don't buy these systems for offline gaming only, but that is my opinion. If it were just offline gaming, I wouldn't be spending the money on either system personally. |
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The problem with the paywall is that you're alienating two types of people - those like me that might don't play online enough to justify a membership at all. And people like Saul who don't play online enough to justify signing up in 1-year blocks. Maybe if M$ would offer me more than just the privilege of playing online (with a game I've already paid full price for, no less) with their membership, it would be different. For example, with my PS+ account, I got Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen for free. It sells for around $35 used. It's $39.99 new. THAT is value. |
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MS has been doing "Games with Gold" or whatever it is. Two free games a month. I think PS has been doing something similar. So there is value outside of just paying $4.00/month to have it. Single player games are still around, I know. But, you can't deny that everything is going towards the online capabilities for games. It's just the way it is now. The single player is becoming an after thought to the MP portions of games. I think that is BS because I still enjoy the SP of most games I play. I do agree though if I were just an offline gamer the XBO would be a no go for me as well. I can understand not wanting to pay for a service that I won't use to get a service that I want. |
Look at the back of the damn COD: Ghost case..... "Offline Play Enabled". The SP's suffer because of this type of shit. "Offline Play" is now a feature.
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