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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's simply saying picking a TE that generally goes in round 4 that has 9 TD's over the last 2 years isn't a sound strategy.

But let's not forget 7 TDs in '04 with 102 receptions. And he had 78 receptions last year for over 900 yards. Still a great TE in fantasy IMHO. Not the first or maybe even second TE to pick. But still solid.

It is just fantasy football talk, anyway. Nobody is saying TG is no good anymore. Just maybe not the #1 TE. All that being said, he'll have more TDs this year. A lot more. I hope.

First drive ate half a quarter off the clock. Excellent. D looked much better. (Still just pre-season. D in previous Vermeil years looked good at times in pre-season as well.) Not so solid inside the 10. Here's where we will miss T Rich and Roaf the most.

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Originally Posted by chrisdel

Nobody is saying TG is no good anymore. Just maybe not the #1 TE. All that being said, he'll have more TDs this year. A lot more. I hope.

TG is no good anymore.

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Originally Posted by tk13

The NFL doesn't revolve around the Kansas City Chiefs though. I never understood that argument. That doesn't mean he was a success here, but as I always say, you don't forget how to be a good coach. The guy has more success than the majority of coaches that have ever coached in this league. That's not debatable. Doesn't mean you're going to have success 100% of the time, there are competent people everywhere that fail everyday. But being self-centered doesn't mean that the world actually revolves around you.

Agree with you. But he still did nothing for the Chiefs and here's why. He was talked out of retirement by Petersen. His heart wasn't in it. I'm not saying he didn't care or didn't work hard when he was HC here, but what I am saying is that his drive here wasn't as strong as in Philly or St. Louis. He was working for Super Bowls there. He was working for a pay check and a favor to CP in KC. He brought a lot of credibility back to the Chiefs when he was here (so did Marty). But in the end, he didn't do much. I just wish that some Chiefs fans stop hating on him. He shouldn't have been hired in the first place because King Carl should have been fired after the Gunther hire. But that is a topic for another thread.

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

TG is no good anymore.

Guess you just discredited my point there.

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, Vermeil never accomplished anything as a coach.

Yeah, that's precisely what I said. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by tk13

I wasn't debating whether he accomplished anything here. I was debating the statement saying his philosophy of longer practices/aggressive play/etc. etc. ever actually worked.

Um, you're reading something into my statement that wasn't actually there.

Vermeil's philosophy, IN KANSAS CITY, was to rack up records at all costs. And it didn't work. There were things Vermeil did here that he DID NOT do in St. Louis, and vice versa. There's a reason he won there and not here.

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

LJ played great, but I am stoked about Tamba and BONECRUSHER!!!!!!!!!!

He too looked good; I hope this is an indication of things to come, and not just at Arrowhead.