Using red m&ms for lip stick.

This explains why he loves Geno so damn much.

Stat sheet + popular demand. LMAO

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Charles and Bowe tend to make QB's look good :thumb:

Surely you think Alex Smith is better than Cassel, no?

I really hope Alex Smith works out. For what we gave up, he needs to play better than he ever has for us to end up winning the trade.

It sure would be nice to actually enjoy watching football again.

Unfortunately, I have a strong feeling that we are putting our dicks back in the meat grinder.

I'd love to be wrong, though.

He's better. But very slightly so. Nothing in his 8 year career has made me think he's a good QB. Even in his best seasons most people would agree that he was the 14th - 20th best QB in the league.

If he somehow has a good year/career in KC, I'll be the first to eat crow, but absolutely NOTHING he has done in his career makes me think he'll be anything more than average.

The guy can't even complete seasons. He's only played 16 games twice in his career.

Alex Smith was on pace for 23 TD's in a restricted game manager role in SF.

Reid is going to have him air it out much more here and surround him with weapons.

Alex Smith will throw 25 TD's next year IMO.

If Alex Smith averages 25 tds the next two years, and none of the rookies from this class blow up, the trade was good.

Any Alex Smith success would come from a strong running game in JC and some playaction. If Coach Reid wants him to air it out Alex Smith is going get in trouble. He doesn't have the background to be a passer of 35+ times a game. He is ok at 25 times with a running game.

Yep. And perhaps, just maybe, it will teach this CLEARLY complacent organization that picking up an already-concussed, retread HACK ain't such a hot ****ing idea when you're sitting on the first pick in the draft and trying to set a "new tone"! And you have no idea WHAT the **** I may or may not do, Miss Cleo, so shove that sanctimonious tone right up your Lil Chiefy asshole!
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Barkley and Smith could and will surpass him as rookies.
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GENO OR DEATH!

wow.

When Alex throws 28 tds next year, gochiefs will be out for three months and a hundred bucks.

Your dumbass is the opposite end of GoChiefs. You are on whatever bandwagon the majority isn't and you look like a ****ing idiot.

LMAO

Hey man you can also win if he throws for 4,300 yards! I'm screwed!

You're so ****ed.

Barkley won't last 6 games. Geno will have 6 TDs and 15 INTS by game 8.

FYI, Argo, if that's even your real name, no Andy Reid QB has ever thrown for 4300 yards. McNabb had ONE season of 27+ TD.

GOOD LUCK DUMBASS.

I wouldn't worry about your bet GC. Alex will be lucky to play beyond 8 games this season.

I know the stats, clay.

You'll see.

It's Joey

FYI, I'll waive the 3-month ban in favor of you immediately posting as a gay man for 6 months.

Not true.I hated losing Carr. I hate Cassel. I hate Pioli. I love the Andy Reid hire. I was for Albert staying. I was for Bowe staying. I was for Colquitt staying.

All majority opinions.

Smoooooooooth....the hell out.
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So Alex would essentially have to pull out of his ass the equivalent of 4 more excellent games or 6 games of about what he usually averages. So the only way you will lose this bet is if between now and then, the NFL changes its schedule to 22 games.

You're all going to burn in AIDS fire while having antifreeze soaked deer antlers jammed up your asses because you rape your grandmother!!!



:))

You better not pitch that shit at me fellers, I only ate the Green M&M's in little league!

I know better, but I'll play...

Tom Brady...............30 wins/ 28 losses in 58 games = 52%
Joe Flacco................10 wins/12 losses in 22 games = 46%
Matt Ryan................11 wins/17 losses in 28 games = 39%
Peyton Manning........35 wins/ 54 losses in 89 games = 39%
Aaron Rodgers..........11 wins/19 losses in 30 games = 37%
Drew Brees..............27 wins/ 51 losses in 78 games = 35%
Eli Manning, .............18 wins/44 losses in 62 games = 29%
Matthew Stafford........7 wins/ 21 losses in 28 games = 25%
Matt Schaub..............14 wins/43 losses in 57 games = 25%
Matt Cassel...............8 wins/26 losses in 34 games = 24%
Ben Roethilsberger........6 wins/21 losses in 27 games = 22%
Alex Smith..................2 wins/27 losses in 29 games = 7%

What this means to you is up to how much you think an elite QB impacts the team. All I know is, there is a hell of a difference between 7% and even 35% when you are fighting for a playoff berth or trying to navigate to the superbowl. All of those elite/elitish guys are in the 30's on up.

Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers are in the top 6, all cleary elite QBs. Flacco is nearly elite. Ryan, I didn't expect. So who knows?

All I know is, it is no secret it is very difficult to win when your Defense allows 24 points. That is why it is a bellweather. That's why they don't use 7 or 14 points as the dividing point. Because giving up 24 means you usually lose. So the key here is, what QBs shoulder their team and give you SOME chance to win when the Defense gives up 24 points.

All of this means exactly jack since it is a team sport, but it does seem indicate that some QBs can step up to generate points when needed and other QBs can't.

Just for fun, here is a how a classic HoFer fared -

Joe Montana...........21 wins/24 losses in 45 games = 46%

Hmm, maybe there is a little something to this metric.

there needs to be a thread taking bets on who gets hurt first, Tony Moeaki or Alex Smith.

that's a tough one.

yea eat shit Alex Smith ballwashers

Amazing how people CONTINUE to slam that statistic when it's the absolute truth.

Matt ****ing Cassel has more wins in that situation than Smith.

That's embarrassing.

There's no defense for being close to 0 in any stat in this league.

Here's hoping they don't hurt each other
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If they do, I hope it is right before the draft.

OUCH!

Let's hope they don't have a Williams/Hunter moment and take each other out!

the problem is Alex Smith needs the best elite defense to help him be an acceptable NFL QB

the guy couldnt win when the defense was average, the guy still couldnt win when the defense was good, or very good, that defense had to get top 3 elite maybe even 1st pending who you ask for Alex Smith to start having positive success. That elite defense shut offenses down and sat on leads for Alex Smith and got him a lot of victories the last two years

and that's something we are far from on our defense despite having some good players on it.

bwa-hahahahahaha...
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Just for fun - can you run the numbers on Luck, RGIII, Wilson, and Kaepernick, too?

their sample size is one year

... lol

They are all in their first years starting.

Small sample size.
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**** you
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This. Plus, Kaeps is less than 1 year. Would be exceptionally silly.

How many of Casshats wins were when he was with NE?

if alex smith has to throw for 25 tds, the chiefs are going to be 6-10

Geez guys, can't I make a (weak) attempt at a joke? Sheesh! At least a couple of you got it.

so your logic is... the less TDs he throws the better we will be? So..............

the less times he drops back to pass and the more times we run, the better we will be?

that's how you defend your QB in today's pass happy NFL?

LOL

wanna place a bet on this? especially barkley.

barkley wont. ill bet my membership at chiefs planet on it. you want me gone.

if barkley does, ill leave, if he doesnt, you go. seems simple

This is a huge flaw. Look at who Cassel's surrounding cast is in his career and who coached him. Now look at Alex Smith's.

Huge difference.

Alex Smith has had like a top 20 defense the last 6 years and was still god damn terrible

Cassel has had really bad defenses for the last 4 years sans 1 magical fluke year, and even then it wasnt that good.

Alex Smith has had the better cast and coaching in San Fran, than Cassel has had here, so what is your point. Smith's numbers should be WAY better if he was a QB worth a god damn shit, but he isnt

He had 5 with the Chiefs. In only 4 years.

Alex Smith is a wastoid.

you are so so so so stupid.

alex smith was never surrounded with offensive talent until the last two years.

go look it up dumb ass. the niners were specifically built around the defense. check their draft picks. my god people are just dumb.....

:LOL:

JFC


Enough with the ****ing excuses. We went through this with Cassel. Look how that turned out.
I don't see anyone making excuses for Rodgers, Brady, etc...


Wonder why.


I WANT A QUARTERBACK THAT DOESN'T NEED SOME ****ING ASSHOLE MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM.


I was the asshole with Cassel. I learned my lesson.


If the quarterback is worth playing no excuses should be needed
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hes had Frank Gore and Vernon Davis HIS WHOLE ****ING CAREER

you act like those guys are scrubs. That is more than enough

you are extremely simple. i cant help it if you cant figure it out.

Who ****ing cares?


Brady was winning super bowls with a couple piles of shit at wr, and a dead cat at rb.
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god damn you are dumb. so, aaron rodgers, and tom brady, only have one tight end, and one receiver? cool, do me a favor stupid. compare the 49ers offensive stats with kaep last year, and then take that same sample size with tom brady and aaron rodgers. then please, feel free to get back to me. wtf is wrong with you dumbasses.

thats it, you are officially the stupidest mother ****er on the planet. tom brady was winning with the stats he is now? lol. no, they didnt go out and get him welker, and randy moss, and gronk, and hernandez. no no......he can do it with scrubs. lol.

Tom ****ing Brady had less on offense when he was winning super bowls than the niners since Smith was there.

Sorry you don't know much about the nfl
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On the left: what the 49ers have. On the right: what the Chiefs have.



http://i.imgur.com/zSdjpb9.jpg

Alex Smith had Norv Turner as an OC at one point and people on here we slobbing for Norv as an OC option before Andy was hired.

And Alex Smith was ****ing terrible even under Norv.

Time to deflate this bullshit for what it really is.

First of all, one of those games was vs the Saints this last year. Charles won that game, NOT Cassel. Cassel didn't do shit.

Another vs the Colts. Worst team in the NFL and 25th ranked defense. Woo!

Seattle is legit. One of the few games he ever looked good in.

Steelers OT win is the other one.

Final game was against Denver in 2009 when Cassel didn't do shit. That was Jamaal's coming out party. He won that game for us.

So basically 2 of those games were impressive. Other 2 were all Jamaal.

Has he won since they got him those guys?

No.

He won with the scrubs.

I'm not the dumb one here
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LMAO

their offense beat down the rams? BULLLLLSHIT, their defense beat down the rams. One of the best offenses in the league got locked up by a young ty law, willie mcginnest, vrabel, richard seymour. before randy moss's first year with the patriots what was tom bradys career high in tds? hmmmm?

who were the receivers? yeah, thats about what i thought.

Oh, just shut the **** UP.

And change your avatar, reeruno.

what is your point?


The niners have had a defense every bit as good, better, than any the pats had.

Why hasn't Alex Smith won one starting?


Oh and the defense wasn't making late game winning drives to score either.
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You are the goal post movingest mother ****er ever.


You have to be related to black bob
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I honestly think it's completely fair to expect a lot out of Alex. I don't think you guys should be expecting a guy to come in and play "mediocre" football. I understand the frustration there. I think the expectations should be much more. I think Alex would agree with that as well. I would expect playoffs or at the very least massive improvement.

You spent a decent amount to get the guy. He's been playing well and that's why Andy Reid made the decision. He himself, has a HUGE chip on his shoulder to come in and play well. Alex isn't the type of guy that doesn't want to be successful, if I can guarantee you one thing it will be that Alex will work his ass off.

He has never had a new setting, so just maybe a new change of scenery and coaching philosophy he can up his game up a notch or two. Or maybe many are right, he just may well flop. But I think Alex has a decent chance at becoming a pretty damn good QB. You have some solid pieces, and will only get better through the draft and FA.

Receivers don't matter if you don't throw the ball, dumbass
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just for the record. before 2007, 6 years after he became starter, tom bradys career high in tds was 28........


aaron rodgers has been stockpiled with receivers from day one. The 49ers still dont have the receiving options that come anywhere near green bays, new englands, new orleans. because they are built more on their defense. Sorry that some on this board, are so ****ing slow, to realize how little offensive talent the 49ers had the past 6 years.......

so the 49ers have a top flight receiving corps?

Cassel worked his ass off.

I'm sure Smith will too, why has he been mediocre his whole career? He didn't work hard as a niner?
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You are a dumb shit.

Tom Brady won three super bowls with less on offense than Alex Smith ever had as a niner
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We don't know, they didn't throw the ball much with Alex Smith
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