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DJ's left nut 12-07-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12601704)
Obviously the Royals thought Bubba could hit at least that-or they would not have drafted him in the first place. The point was, most prospects don't pan out. Isn't that what Soler is? The Royals traded a known commodity -hoping he can be a descent power hitter they really need.

As far as Ben-it never seemed the Royals really tried all that hard-but I will let it rest. It was a great move on his part and I am happy for him. I am sure Wade is excited to be going for a repeat. The Cubs are loaded.

Obviously the Chiefs thought Matt Cassel could throw or they wouldn't have traded for him.

What the **** does that have to do with anything?

I'm honestly not convinced Bubba can even see. It's hard for premier athlete to hit .180 and strike out 10 times for every walk in AAA. Michael Jordan was a better player in his only season in AA than Bubba Starling was last season and Michael had to do it in the Southern League. Bubba got to take aim at the Texas League and still couldn't figure it out.

Bubba wouldn't be a good hitter for a pitcher at this point. Damn shame because the tools are off the charts.

SAUTO 12-07-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12601493)
I guess they felt they needed a .258 career hitter that only hit 12 HR's and .238 last year. :rolleyes:

Since the WS win- lots of very bad moves have been made. Looks like another down year for the Royals.

he played half a season you ****ing mogo.

Mecca 12-07-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12601727)
Obviously the Chiefs thought Matt Cassel could throw or they wouldn't have traded for him.

What the **** does that have to do with anything?

I'm honestly not convinced Bubba can even see. It's hard for premier athlete to hit .180 and strike out 10 times for every walk in AAA. Michael Jordan was a better player in his only season in AA than Bubba Starling was last season and Michael had to do it in the Southern League. Bubba got to take aim at the Texas League and still couldn't figure it out.

Bubba wouldn't be a good hitter for a pitcher at this point. Damn shame because the tools are off the charts.

It does make you wonder if there is something else going on there.

SAUTO 12-07-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12601542)
And Wade could have been the best closer in baseball again. I am sure the Cubs are happy unloading a .238 hitter for our best cyborg. :shake:

At least we will always have his WS domination to remember.

if i was you i would just quit being a fan.


then at least we wouldnt have to see your stupid ****ing posts on the issue

duncan_idaho 12-07-2016 02:33 PM

*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository
 
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 12601712)
Starling and Elier Hernandez are examples of the Royals not succeeding with young players that are super toolsy but don't have great baseball acumen at the time of signing. It's frustrating to see it happen, if you know how to develop those guys you get stars if you don't you get dudes who never make the majors.


Truth is, every team has a large pool of tools you players who never developed the skills as a hitter needed to succeed at the major league level.

It's not a Royals thing, necessarily. It's a "baseball is hard" thing.

And Soler doesn't really have much developing left to do. He's 24/25. He's already at MLB. Really hard to adjust approaches significantly at that age.

He can make some gains, but the big questions for him are going Robb the ability to stay healthy and the ability to refine his pitch selection.


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ChiefsCountry 12-07-2016 02:34 PM

Remember this when dealing with Halfwit
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=285391

Halfcan 12-07-2016 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=siberian khatru;12601710]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade Davis tells me: &quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> fans were amazing. They made me tick every time I stepped on the field. And ...they made me feel like family.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan

Wade will always have a place in Royals history. Sucks to see him go. :deevee:

Halfcan 12-07-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12601738)
if i was you i would just quit being a fan.


then at least we wouldnt have to see your stupid ****ing posts on the issue

If you put me on ignore you wouldn't have to see them at all you ****ing dipshit. :rolleyes:

Mr. Laz 12-07-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12601654)
I don't think anyone is down on Dayton at all-but after his moves last year, I think you have to at least question things a little. Not that it makes a bit of difference.

Most of the board wanted to keep Ben- Dayton let him walk and he was a key part in winning the WS for the Cubs.

It is not like Dayton has been batting 1000 since the WS win. Lets hope he does better than last year.

It could be because Moore took like 6 years of shit before he did anything

Dorsey took 1 year

Yes, Baseball is different. Longer player development and no salary cap.

Still ... people might be worried that it's going to be another 6 years of crap.

cosmo20002 12-07-2016 02:39 PM

This trade seems like a move to make if you're building for 2018 and beyond. If that's the strategy, then maybe it's a good one.
But it doesn't seem to improve us for 2017.

Mecca 12-07-2016 02:40 PM

If the Royals are going to have a payroll in the 100 million range and the trades that are made bring back solid parts and they can hit on some picks they won't go back to being awful.

It'd probably be smart to see what Cain's value is seeing as he can't get through a season without being injured.

Buehler445 12-07-2016 02:44 PM

Thanks Wade. I truly enjoyed watching you embarrass fools. Forever Cyborg! :rockon:

Halfcan 12-07-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12601741)
Remember this when dealing with Halfwit
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=285391

This thread single-handedly motivated the Royals to 2 World Series.

Your welcome! :)

Maybe if I bitch about Solerpower enough-he will turn into the next Hank Aaron? :D

Prison Bitch 12-07-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12601671)
Dude stole from me as well:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....&postcount=357

Mostly jazayerli seems to be a day behind this thread at this point...

In all fairness, he's getting a big fat nothing from Bob Nightengale.

alnorth 12-07-2016 02:46 PM

The book is not yet closed on the Greinke trade.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Process: From Greinke to Soler: <a href="https://t.co/FlSNlIlA7t">pic.twitter.com/FlSNlIlA7t</a></p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/806599933046493185">December 7, 2016</a></blockquote>
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