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O.city 12-11-2011 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192272)
That's kind of my point.

A defensive HC took a passing team with Orton and rewrote the entire offense with Tebow. He is the worst QB in the league, imo, and the Broncos are 6-1(?) with him as a starter. Fox, a defensive guy, has gotten more out of his offense with a ****ing FB taking the snaps than Haley, an offensive guy, has gotten out of Cassel/Palko.
Well they are running an offense taylored to Tebows strengths, which happens to be running the ball and throwing it as little as possible until the defense goes to prevent. This also keeps his defense fresh allowing them to play out of their minds.

I dunno what Cassel and Palko's strengths are or how we could play towards them.

But I do get what your are saying and its pretty much true.

O.city 12-11-2011 08:23 PM
It's hard to get it to your playmakers when you can't throw it consistently more than 10 yards and the defense only has to cover a 15 yard zone.


I'm all for getting rid of Haley, but the qb situation on this team is absolutely awful. Like record setting awful.

Titty Meat 12-11-2011 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8192184)
Not defending Haley here.

There is no such thing as an offensive guru.

You have talent, or you don't.
You got 3 pretty good WR's. The best WR core we've had in awhile and a decent O-line. There should have been more than 3 touchdowns scored in the last 28 QTRS.

jd1020 12-11-2011 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8192285)
Well they are running an offense taylored to Tebows strengths, which happens to be running the ball and throwing it as little as possible until the defense goes to prevent. This also keeps his defense fresh allowing them to play out of their minds.

I dunno what Cassel and Palko's strengths are or how we could play towards them.

But I do get what your are saying and its pretty much true.
Palko is comparable, but slightly better imo, to Tebow. Tebow is the better runner because hes a god damn FB, but Palko is a way better passer.

He is not a deep threat QB. But where are all of the quick hitter/screens to Bowe/Baldwin/Breaston/McCluster.

All day is ****ing Battle outside, McCluster inside, short pass on 3rd and long.

milkman 12-11-2011 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8192285)
Well they are running an offense taylored to Tebows strengths, which happens to be running the ball and throwing it as little as possible until the defense goes to prevent. This also keeps his defense fresh allowing them to play out of their minds.

I dunno what Cassel and Palko's strengths are or how we could play towards them.

But I do get what your are saying and its pretty much true.
And the fact is, their talent at RB and on the line is superior to ours.

Their playcalling is similar to ours, but the difference is talent, and what TeBow brings as a runner, as well.

dirk digler 12-11-2011 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8192240)
See my previous post.
I realize our QB position is the worst in the NFL but I think a competent head coach with an offensive background can manage to design a system that can score more than 10 points a game.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2011 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192295)
Palko is comparable, but slightly better imo, to Tebow. Tebow is the better runner because hes a god damn FB, but Palko is a way better passer.
You are an idiot.

A freaking idiot.

Palko is better than no one. Not even Dan Orlovsky.

milkman 12-11-2011 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8192291)
You got 3 pretty good WR's. The best WR core we've had in awhile and a decent O-line. There should have been more than 3 touchdowns scored in the last 28 QTRS.
You can't score if the defense stacks everthing tight and you don't have a QB that can get the ball beyond ten yards.

jd1020 12-11-2011 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8192305)
You are an idiot.

A freaking idiot.
Please explain. I'm waiting to hear what makes Tebow better than Palko.

notorious 12-11-2011 08:27 PM
Was Thigpen better than Cassel/Palko?

WhiteWhale 12-11-2011 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192312)
Please explain. I'm waiting to hear what makes Tebow better than Palko.
He's a better passer and a better runner.

Are you ****ing joking?

Palko is the worst thing EVER. He is, at best, a 3rd stringer in Canada.

jd1020 12-11-2011 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8192317)
He's a better passer and a better runner.

Are you ****ing joking?

Palko is the worst thing EVER. He is, at best, a 3rd stringer in Canada.
Tebow is completing 47% of his passes and you think he's a better passer? Are you ****ing stupid?

milkman 12-11-2011 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8192301)
I realize our QB position is the worst in the NFL but I think a competent head coach with an offensive background can manage to design a system that can score more than 10 points a game.
I don't.

Not with Tyler Palko throwing the ball, and a brokedick Thomas Jones and Jackie Battle, and a McMidget that thinks the spin move is the greatest thing since sliced bread running the ball.

milkman 12-11-2011 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192321)
Tebow is completing 47% of his passes and you think he's a better passer? Are you ****ing stupid?
His accuracy sucks, but he does have the ability to make throws that travel further than the end of his dick.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192312)
Please explain. I'm waiting to hear what makes Tebow better than Palko.
Besides being significantly better at every physical dimension? I don't think he ever succeeds because of the throwing motion. But my god he is much better. And their running game significantly makes it easier for tebow.


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