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oldman 01-17-2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8304601)
A story like this is bound to foster serious concerns in any reasonable, good-thinking, professional, NFL coach.

Assuming, of course, we contact any reasonable, good-thinking, professional, NFL coaches.

FAX

I was going to point out that Al Davis got people to work for him but then I saw your qualifiers of reasonable, good-thinking, and professional.

ILChief 01-17-2012 07:21 AM

Now it's on profootballtalk. Great

htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 8303366)
1.) The blinds thing is done at Gillette, too, with a nearby hotel. It's done because people were found to be spying on practices.

Because the Patriots know EXACTLY what it looks like when teams are spying...

Chiefnj2 01-17-2012 08:19 AM

If you think someone is bugging your office and personal phone, why not just go buy one of those "throwaway" phones at your local gas station/mini-mart?

bevischief 01-17-2012 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8304767)
If you think someone is bugging your office and personal phone, why not just go buy one of those "throwaway" phones at your local gas station/mini-mart?

That would be too easy...

htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8303235)
I see your point.

That's nothing like the corporate world at all.

I work for a Fortune 5 company. We take "governance" training 1 time per month. We monitor web access, company cell phones, and the whole 9 yards.

We also don't monitor the length of employee lunch breaks, who they're conversing with inside and outside of the workplace, or anything of the sort.

See, my company measures employees by their PERFORMANCE.

SUCCESSFUL companies don't operate the way you think they do. They certainly don't operate the way the Chiefs have been operating.

htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8303268)
I'm not sure I understand the significance of the gum/candy wrapper in the stairwell, and I have not read through all 670 some posts looking for the answer.

But instead of just leaving it there for a week, then picking it up and making an issue of it at a meeting, wouldn't the logical thing to have done been going to the custodian for that area... or the head of the custodian department... and let them know what your expectations were as to the cleanliness of the facility? Maybe even in a private setting?

There's no place for logical or reasonable behavior, now is there?

htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8304767)
If you think someone is bugging your office and personal phone, why not just go buy one of those "throwaway" phones at your local gas station/mini-mart?

It's hard to think clearly when you're CRAZY.

KCUnited 01-17-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8304767)
If you think someone is bugging your office and personal phone, why not just go buy one of those "throwaway" phones at your local gas station/mini-mart?

And why not workout before or after work so you aren't ridiculed for which stairwell you're seen in going to the facility gym? Just eat lunch by yourself so you don't have to worry about who your seen leaving with. It's quite simple really.

htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 8304807)
And why not workout before or after work so you aren't ridiculed for which stairwell you're seen in going to the facility gym? Just eat lunch by yourself so you don't have to worry about who your seen leaving with. It's quite simple really.

I agree that it's simple.

But should they REALLY have to focus on those things?

Wouldn't you rather employes of a football team are focusing on, oh I don't know...FOOTBALL?

ILChief 01-17-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8304774)
I work for a Fortune 5 company. We take "governance" training 1 time per month. We monitor web access, company cell phones, and the whole 9 yards.

We also don't monitor the length of employee lunch breaks, who they're conversing with inside and outside of the workplace, or anything of the sort.

See, my company measures employees by their PERFORMANCE.

SUCCESSFUL companies don't operate the way you think they do. They certainly don't operate the way the Chiefs have been operating.

Wouldn't a janitor's performance be judged by trash left on the floor for a week?

htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 8304825)
Wouldn't a janitor's performance be judged by trash left on the floor for a week?

Normally, the manager would pick up a gum wrapper and ask the janitor about it in a weekly one-on-one or performance review.

A good manager wouldn't make a public spectacle of it.

Hammock Parties 01-17-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8304831)
Normally, the manager would pick up a gum wrapper and ask the janitor about it in a weekly one-on-one or performance review.

A good manager wouldn't make a public spectacle of it.

Littered candy wrappers are just a sign that employees aren't getting their TPS reports in on time.

KCUnited 01-17-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8304822)
I agree that it's simple.

But should they REALLY have to focus on those things?

Wouldn't you rather employes of a football team are focusing on, oh I don't know...FOOTBALL?

Sorry, I was being sarcastic. I think it's a joke.

Luxury sedan - check
Button down, slacks - check
401k - check
gas station throw away phone - check

Yesterday, Nick Wright played a portion of Pioli's interview with Fescoe where Pioli admits he has "a million" different jobs to assist the organization. It was quite revealing.

Chiefnj2 01-17-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8304831)
Normally, the manager would pick up a gum wrapper and ask the janitor about it in a weekly one-on-one or performance review.

A good manager wouldn't make a public spectacle of it.

What the story didn't say was that written inside the wrapper was "A 2nd for Cassel?? WTF??"


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