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Raiderhater 07-28-2013 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9841343)
We're still talking about the Royals at the end of July. You can thank the starting pitching for that.

Maybe Myers is a stud, maybe not. If he's in right and Hoch is our staff ace again, we're on pace to lose 90-100 again.
Hoch, Chen and Myers > Shields and Davis. /DeezNutz

MeatRock 07-28-2013 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9841336)
Where? He started for the royals last year. He started three out of four games for the rays this year.

might as well just leave it be now.
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Regardless, Odorizzi hasn't shown shit at the MLB level. Davis has at least shown he can pitch here. Davis has shown to be a more capable pitcher than Odorizzi.

MeatRock 07-28-2013 03:41 PM
Odorizzi is hot garbage.

DeezNutz 07-28-2013 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9841353)
Hoch, Chen and Myers > Shields and Davis. /DeezNutz
Wow. Let's completely disregard reality.

If we didn't trade Myers for Shields, I have it on good authority that Moore was looking to bring back Kyle Davies and Scott Elarton, with the latter being the opening day starter.

Hoch was starting. Chen was starting. Wait! He still is! And we could not acquire another starter, per league rules. Forget that there were a host of options.

The math is wrong. I swear.

Prison Bitch 07-28-2013 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9841236)
Davies and Shields are almost a wash. The numbers don't lie, so I don't need to resort to smoke when I have facts.
They've combined for 4.0 war. Your numbers apparently are lying.

DeezNutz 07-28-2013 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9841386)
They've combined for 4.0 war. Your numbers apparently are lying.
Baseball Reference. I'm not paying attention to what FanGraphs says about a starter with Davies' numbers.

alnorth 07-28-2013 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9841353)
Hoch, Chen and Myers > Shields and Davis. /DeezNutz
Our 2nd and 3rd choice in the FA market + Myers > Shields and Davis so far.

Prison Bitch 07-28-2013 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9841398)
Baseball Reference. I'm not paying attention to what FanGraphs says about a starter with Davies' numbers.
So you admit your numbers are selective. Cool.

Chris Meck 07-28-2013 04:19 PM
The Royals are on the edges of contention at the end of July because their pitching has been outstanding.

Shields has been outstanding. Santana has been outstanding. Guthrie's been good, hell, even Chen has been good. The bullpen's been nails mostly.

No Shields and we're not having this discussion. He brings more than just numbers.

At some point here, players like Gordon, Butler, Hosmer, and Moustakas are all going to get hot at the same time and this team can and will go on a run. Statistically speaking, Billy and Alex aren't .275 or .280 hitters. It's gonna happen. The only question is, will they be too far gone to make up the ground?

Sure-Oz 07-28-2013 04:22 PM
No way Moustakas gets hot the rest of this season.

He is a pile of shit at the plate with no power when he does get hits.

DeezNutz 07-28-2013 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9841477)
So you admit your numbers are selective. Cool.
What does common sense suggest that the value of a pitcher with a 5.50 ERA and a WHIP of 1.75 might be?

Oh, so you admit that you're not going to factor in common sense? Cool.

Archie F. Swin 07-28-2013 05:47 PM
The Royals record matches their pythagoraen record. That would suggest they are not getting lucky. So, would they need to get lucky to contend for a wild card?

Prison Bitch 07-28-2013 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9841504)
What does common sense suggest that the value of a pitcher with a 5.50 ERA and a WHIP of 1.75 might be?

Oh, so you admit that you're not going to factor in common sense? Cool.
He's got a 4.29 FIP. I don't know what you want from a 4 starter in the AL. He's got a .375 babip vs. the league average of .300 and his career total of .296. He's been unlucky if anything.

MeatRock 07-28-2013 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9841703)
He's got a 4.29 FIP. I don't know what you want from a 4 starter in the AL. He's got a .375 babip vs. the league average of .300 and his career total of .296. He's been unlucky if anything.
Odorizzi is better. ROFL

CoMoChief 07-28-2013 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9840056)
I was with you until you went full reerun and said Hosmer has ruined this teams season. Maybe you missed the last month and a half. I dunno
Maybe you missed the point about how his power sucks and it's taken him damn near 3 months to get going.


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