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kingme20 12-31-2012 03:27 AM

Don't Get mad at me ..


Mike Glennon, North Carolina State Plays today vs Vanderbilt at 12:00PM ESPN


We Might be looking at the Next Matt Ryan

RealSNR 12-31-2012 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kingme20 (Post 9257231)
Don't Get mad at me ..


Mike Glennon, North Carolina State Plays today vs Vanderbilt at 12:00PM ESPN


We Might be looking at the Next Brock Osweiler

FYP

Bewbies 12-31-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kingme20 (Post 9257231)
Don't Get mad at me ..


Mike Glennon, North Carolina State Plays today vs Vanderbilt at 12:00PM ESPN


We Might be looking at the Next Matt Ryan

Life is tough. Life is tougher when you're a ****ing dumb ****.

Molitoth 12-31-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kingme20 (Post 9257231)
Don't Get mad at me ..


Mike Glennon, North Carolina State Plays today vs Vanderbilt at 12:00PM ESPN


We Might be looking at the Next Matt Ryan

Sweet, I can't wait to see him light up that stiff competition.

Saccopoo 12-31-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9257304)
FYP

You're actually pretty close SNR.

If you want to know who the guy that Glennon reminds me of in college it's Ricky Stanzi.

Big arm, good football IQ, decent release and corrected some early college career inaccuracies to a point, but still struggles to make good throws down range and tends to get nervous when the game is put into his hands and that will force him to make bad decisions with the ball.

This Mike Glennon in the first round bullshit is, not to be redundant but...bullshit.

If not for the fact that he's 6'6" and is relatively athletic with a big arm, there would be no discussion of Glennon until the later part of the third round at best.

I mean, if this guy passes up Tyler Bray, Ryan Nassib and EJ Manuel, let alone Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson and Geno Smith, that should be a definite "you just got your pink slip moment" for the GM that pulls that trigger.

I'm still amazed how much authority and weight is given to guys like Kiper and McShay and Mayock. I swear that they just pick a dude to prop up simply to show people how much power and sway they have over the uneducated masses of football fans.

I think Brad Sorensen of shitty Southern Utah is a better NFL prospect than Glennon.

notorious 12-31-2012 09:34 AM

How did Geno do in his bowl game?


I didn't get to watch.

Saccopoo 12-31-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9257761)
How did Geno do in his bowl game?


I didn't get to watch.

16/24
197 yards
2 TDs
0 Ints
163.1 QB rating

In a blizzard with stong winds.

Bowser 12-31-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9257768)
16/24
197 yards
2 TDs
0 Ints
166.7 QB rating

We should take him in the fourth, and take Manti T'eo first overall.


/knuckle dragging mouthbreathers

notorious 12-31-2012 09:39 AM

Stats are stats.

Did his arm and accuracy look good in the wind?

Molitoth 12-31-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9257784)
Stats are stats.

Did his arm and accuracy look good in the wind?

he missed a few throws he should've made.
he made some great throws/reads.
he barely passed the ball due to the gameplan/weather.

It was typical slants/screens that WV runs to open up the big play. The defense actually game planned against the big play, so Geno only took a shot downfield a couple of times.

Morons were expecting Geno to throw for 400 yards and 5 td's in bad weather to justify drafting him over a OL or MLB in the draft so there was much dissapoint.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9257768)
16/24
197 yards
2 TDs
0 Ints
163.1 QB rating

In a blizzard with stong winds.

Wow sac....haha.

I love the "in a blizzard with strong winds" qualifier.

What is so difficult about saying he is a good prospect that had a bad game? Why can't you give him a decent analysis of what happened rather than posting some irrelevant stats that don't even begin to tell the story?

Molitoth 12-31-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258290)
Wow sac....haha.

I love the "in a blizzard with strong winds" qualifier.

What is so difficult about saying he is a good prospect that had a bad game? Why can't you give him a decent analysis of what happened rather than posting some irrelevant stats that don't even begin to tell the story?

Detox,

As much as you can argue that the weather had nothing to do with the game, you can argue that it did.

If affected the entire offensive gameplan. Geno's big sell is that he can toss the deep ball very accurately. This is NOT happening when the weather is detrimental to this style of play.

Granted, the safteys Geno took were on him and yes he did have a bad game to his standards.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9257784)
Stats are stats.

Did his arm and accuracy look good in the wind?

You wanna REALLY know how he did?

He struggled at times and looked good at times. There were moments where you could see his eyes and head run through his progressions like an all pro. Those would be accompanied by moments in which he locked onto one receiver. There were times when he got rid of the ball quickly, and there were times when he held the ball too long. He had a ball or two that were perfectly placed get dropped, and he had a few balls where he completely misfired.

He struggled to find any consistency at all. Im sure the weather and coaching played a part in it, but they alone are not the reason he struggled so much.

He took TWO sacks for safties. It's not just the fact that he took two sacks like that, it's the fact that he took them JUST as the WV was gaining momentum. One came after the defense forced a turnover. He also fumbled a center/QB exchange. His Lone big play came on pass where the defender slipped and fell. To his credit, he also had a short slant that went the distance, but was called back due to a penalty.

Despite all that, he still showed off his impressive accuracy, quick release and above avg athleticism.

THAT is the truth.

Reaper16 12-31-2012 10:57 AM

The wind certainly affected even Geno's throws to the sidelines and hashes. The wind caused a couple of screen passes to sail high. It caused a couple of sideline passes to cut short of the receiver.

To me, some of that is still on Geno. One of the few true question marks in Geno's game to me is top-end arm strength. He's a QB who is in love with the touch and accuracy he passes with, so he rarely (if ever) muscles a bullet somewhere. Some of those short throws in the Pinstripe Bowl were because Geno didn't throw hard enough to account for the wind.

NFL coverages are going to dictate that Geno sometimes really zip a ball into a small window. He can't rely solely on his touch. From everything I've seen in games, I think Geno has the arm strength to succeed at a high level in the NFL.

So I'm pretty eagerly anticipating Geno pro days, where he's going to be made to put some mustard on the ball.

El Jefe 12-31-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258290)
Wow sac....haha.

I love the "in a blizzard with strong winds" qualifier.

What is so difficult about saying he is a good prospect that had a bad game? Why can't you give him a decent analysis of what happened rather than posting some irrelevant stats that don't even begin to tell the story?

I agree with you 100%, we have seen eye to eye on this subject.


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