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htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8304849)
What the story didn't say was that written inside the wrapper was "A 2nd for Cassel?? WTF??"

It was actually CASSEL'S wrapper.

philfree 01-17-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8304831)
Normally, the manager would pick up a gum wrapper and ask the janitor about it in a weekly one-on-one or performance review.

A good manager wouldn't make a public spectacle of it.

How was it made a public spectacle?

I'm not saying Pioli can do no wrong but the gum wrapper story is just someones butt hurt.

Hammock Parties 01-17-2012 10:15 AM

Found some funny/interesting tweets over this.

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Missing from Chiefs front office exposé is Pioli fuming that 95% of Crennel's inbox is online delivery confirmation e-mails from Papa Johns.
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Michael Silver @MikeSilver
If Scott Pioli was reading all my texts to Todd Haley... well, all I can say is, IT IS WHAT IT IS... @kentbabb
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B.M. @BMKCMO 22h
Too bad the story doesnt talk about all the backstabbing Pioli did to people like Todd Haley and Denny Thum to name a few.
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P. Schrager @PSchrags
This Scott Pioli KC Star column reminds me of when Ben Stiller took over the fat camp in 'Heavyweights' : bit.ly/yoW0b6

Hammock Parties 01-17-2012 10:18 AM

Uh oh...

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Jason Whitlock @WhitlockJason
KC Tweeps: comical & petty for 810 to dismiss Babb story on Egoli. Remember when 810 made its name challenging King Carl and establishment?

Okie_Apparition 01-17-2012 10:35 AM

The pressure to win & win now is like the heat of a 1000 suns
Peyton Manning is going to be wooed like the last woman alive

ToxSocks 01-17-2012 10:38 AM

This is going to be a 100 page thread when this is all said and done. Pioli must be shitting the bed right now, even if the story is true or not.

Just Passin' By 01-17-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8304764)
Because the Patriots know EXACTLY what it looks like when teams are spying...

C'mon, man, you're better than this.

htismaqe 01-17-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8304994)
How was it made a public spectacle?

I'm not saying Pioli can do no wrong but the gum wrapper story is just someones butt hurt.

I think you misunderstood my comment.

When I said "public" I meant the whole of the KC Chiefs INTERNAL management staff, not the public as in the media and fans.

A good, effective manager would have picked up the wrapper (probably immediately) and mentioned it to the janitorial employee at a 1-on-1 or something.

Instead, Pioli leaves it there and waits to see if someone picks it up - it's "bait" at that point. THAT activity right there is a good indication of Pioli's personality, but I digress.

After waiting for a good period of time, he picks it up, puts it in an envelope and then brings it out at an EXECUTIVE meeting, as if to say "see the lazy good for nothing people we have working here?"

That's not effective management and it's a hilariously silly way to run a company, let alone a football team.

Stephanie Melton said it best in the article:

“He was so focused on what seemed like unimportant details for the general manager of a football team,” she said. “We all had to step to the beat of his drum, but we all kept questioning: ‘How is this building a better football team?’

htismaqe 01-17-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 8305079)
C'mon, man, you're better than this.

Better than what?

The reason the Patriots are so paranoid about people taping their practices is because THEY did it.

GTFO with this.

FringeNC 01-17-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8305075)
This is going to be a 100 page thread when this is all said and done. Pioli must be shitting the bed right now, even if the story is true or not.

Things will really get ugly if (when?) Cassel is the starter next and he struggles.

ILChief 01-17-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8305102)
Things will really get ugly if (when?) Cassel is the starter next and he struggles.

Maybe he will get a new qb to take attention away from this

Just Passin' By 01-17-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8305099)
Better than what?

The reason the Patriots are so paranoid about people taping their practices is because THEY did it.

GTFO with this.

The Patriots were penalized for openly filming games from the sideline, not for secretly taping other teams' practices. Even the allegations about the walkthrough were found to be baseless and resulted in the accusing paper making a complete retraction. My mistake, though. You USED to be better than this. That's apparently no longer the case.

philfree 01-17-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8305096)
I think you misunderstood my comment.

When I said "public" I meant the whole of the KC Chiefs INTERNAL management staff, not the public as in the media and fans.

A good, effective manager would have picked up the wrapper (probably immediately) and mentioned it to the janitorial employee at a 1-on-1 or something.

Instead, Pioli leaves it there and waits to see if someone picks it up - it's "bait" at that point. THAT activity right there is a good indication of Pioli's personality, but I digress.

After waiting for a good period of time, he picks it up, puts it in an envelope and then brings it out at an EXECUTIVE meeting, as if to say "see the lazy good for nothing people we have working here?"

That's not effective management and it's a hilariously silly way to run a company, let alone a football team.

Stephanie Melton said it best in the article:

“He was so focused on what seemed like unimportant details for the general manager of a football team,” she said. “We all had to step to the beat of his drum, but we all kept questioning: ‘How is this building a better football team?’

"He left it there" what does that mean really? I figure he walked past it and thought "My crack clean up crew will be along to police this area anytime now." or something like that. But after a couple of days when it was still there he thought "Where's my cleanup crew? Then at the end of the week he was like "WTF?" So he used it as a tool to get his point across to all the department heads not just the guy responsible for trash pickup. And since the wrapper was there for a week someone wasn't doing their job very well. I just don't see this as a deal.

If I was the new GM I'd want to get everyone to step to the beat of the same drum. And since I would be the GM it would be my drum so :shrug:

Titty Meat 01-17-2012 11:12 AM

This certainly isn't going over well with the fans but just wait until a little over a month from now when it's announced Cassel will be the starter for 2012.

Carlota69 01-17-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8305096)
I think you misunderstood my comment.

When I said "public" I meant the whole of the KC Chiefs INTERNAL management staff, not the public as in the media and fans.

A good, effective manager would have picked up the wrapper (probably immediately) and mentioned it to the janitorial employee at a 1-on-1 or something.
Instead, Pioli leaves it there and waits to see if someone picks it up - it's "bait" at that point. THAT activity right there is a good indication of Pioli's personality, but I digress.

After waiting for a good period of time, he picks it up, puts it in an envelope and then brings it out at an EXECUTIVE meeting, as if to say "see the lazy good for nothing people we have working here?"

That's not effective management and it's a hilariously silly way to run a company, let alone a football team.

Stephanie Melton said it best in the article:

“He was so focused on what seemed like unimportant details for the general manager of a football team,” she said. “We all had to step to the beat of his drum, but we all kept questioning: ‘How is this building a better football team?’

Yep. My take is Pioli is passive/aggressive, and those are the worst people to work for or to be in a relationship with. I bet his wife is miserable.


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