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BigCatDaddy 01-24-2017 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12706554)
He deserves a ton of credit dude, but we've peaked with Alex.

What if Andy stays with Alex and Foles next year?
That's on Andy the GM, not Andy the game day coach. Let's not pretend like Dorsey has say over the QB.

Titty Meat 01-24-2017 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12706554)
He deserves a ton of credit dude, but we've peaked with Alex.

What if Andy stays with Alex and Foles next year?
They will make the playoffs again.

BigCatDaddy 01-24-2017 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12706566)
They will make the playoffs again.
Depends on what Denver does in the off season and Carr's health IMO.

Chiefnj2 01-24-2017 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12706546)
Said coach took over a 2-14 and led them to 4 straight winning seasons. Todd Haley doesn't take the trash Dorsey finds and turns them into good players. Give Reid some credit folks.
He's great at keeping the team competitive. Just like Marvin Lewis. No sense of urgency in the 4th quarter against Pitt. KC needed its timeouts, did they have them at the end?

He doesn't get a free pass because Smith isn't elite. He picked him and refused to have any open competition to push Smith.

OnTheWarpath15 01-24-2017 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12706461)
And that is why so many people were critical even during the very good season we had. It wasn't about not being able to enjoy it. It was about enjoying it and still seeing the issue that was looming in the playoffs against a good team. The concern was that if we didn't play well everywhere on the roster that we were going to have a difficult time winning unless Smith came out of his shell.

Well "playoff Smith" didn't show up. Defensive TD's didn't show up. PIT kicked our ass on kickoffs. Our brilliant bend but don't break strategy not only cost us offensive snaps due to time of possession, but it also didn't give Hill a chance to return many punts. Pit didn't play that well, but they did force Smith to have to make plays.
Let's think about "Playoff Smith" for a second...

He's had two huge games in the playoffs.

Against defenses that I believe were ranked bottom 5 that season. (Saints, Colts)

Red Dawg 01-24-2017 12:36 PM
Keeping Smith would be a complete fail. Damn city should not buy tickets to watch that loser another season.

RealSNR 01-24-2017 12:54 PM
Moving on from Smith doesn't have to be immediate. All that needs to happen is we have to make the PLAN to move away from Smith.

Just get the young guy this year. If we roll with Foles, I won't complain. If we roll with Smith, I won't complain. If we even go straight to the rookie I won't complain. But we've got to get the young guy of the future in here and we gotta get him in here now.

The Franchise 01-24-2017 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12706789)
Moving on from Smith doesn't have to be immediate. All that needs to happen is we have to make the PLAN to move away from Smith.

Just get the young guy this year. If we roll with Foles, I won't complain. If we roll with Smith, I won't complain. If we even go straight to the rookie I won't complain. But we've got to get the young guy of the future in here and we gotta get him in here now.
I'd rather roll with Foles. He may put up some more INTs....but he'll at least push the ball down the field.

Fish 01-24-2017 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12706744)
Keeping Smith would be a complete fail. Damn city should not buy tickets to watch that loser another season.
Fans are dumb. The Chiefs will keep Smith, and there will be plenty of fans hoodwinked by the perpetual hype, and the stadium will again be full and primed for another first round playoff loss.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2017 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 12706857)
Fans are dumb. The Chiefs will keep Smith, and there will be plenty of fans hoodwinked by the perpetual hype, and the stadium will again be full and primed for another first round playoff loss.
People said the same thing about the Blues, until there were finally too many playoff losses to care anymore.

I think this one probably put a lot of people over the edge. Things will need to change or the fans won't come out in the same numbers as this season (and this season's turnout wasn't always stellar).

Discuss Thrower 01-24-2017 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12706925)
I think this one probably put a lot of people over the edge. Things will need to change or the fans won't come out in the same numbers as this season (and this season's turnout wasn't always stellar).
More of a product of the team pricing out the fans than results on the field.

When it's perfect weather in September / early October and even the cheap seats are a little over 50% full, that's a sign that tickets are too expensive.

Reerun_KC 01-24-2017 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12706932)
More of a product of the team pricing out the fans than results on the field.

When it's perfect weather in September / early October and even the cheap seats are a little over 50% full, that's a sign that tickets are too expensive.
Well that and with technology changing all the time. I would rather be out camping or playing golf listening to game on NFL mobile than at the stadium with drunks...

ChiefsCountry 01-24-2017 02:00 PM
Stadium is too large for the market size for one. Arrowhead should be around 65k.

Hammock Parties 01-24-2017 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12706680)
Let's think about "Playoff Smith" for a second...

He's had two huge games in the playoffs.

Against defenses that I believe were ranked bottom 5 that season. (Saints, Colts)
The last two postseasons have effectively destroyed the "playoff Smith" moniker.

He's been average at best three playoff games in a row.

DaneMcCloud 01-24-2017 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12706943)
Stadium is too large for the market size for one. Arrowhead should be around 65k.
Outside of Los Angeles, in which the stadium can be used for numerous events, new stadiums shouldn't seat more than 50k, IMO.

TV's just keep getting better and better, in addition to the fact that teams earn bread crumbs from stadium attendance when compared to TV contracts.


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