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patteeu 03-10-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8436815)
It's the final dance in the Big 12 for Mizzou. I think I need to sing about it!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-2SpAPi5_XM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Awesome. KU has a nice singing voice, but she looks odd wearing K-State colors.

Mizzou_8541 03-10-2012 09:18 AM

Re: Thomas Robinson's, "this tournament isn't that important" comments after last night's loss. Would Mizzou fans be a little annoyed if Marcus Denmon said something similar after a loss? I mean, I get it. His team lost so he is trying to rationalize it. But, if you were a ku player, playing in a city that ku is so desperately trying to stamp as their own, would you make those comments?

Doesn't really matter, though. His huge pay check is coming regardless.

Sure-Oz 03-10-2012 09:27 AM

Hope we lay it on Baylor tonight...

T-Rob's comments would slightly annoy me but he does what he does. I felt he couldve had a better game

Trevo_410 03-10-2012 09:29 AM

tickets were selling for as low as 20$ a piece earlier on....

tredadda 03-10-2012 09:43 AM

I know Mizzou has beaten Baylor twice this year but they need to come out firing on all cylinders if they want to win. They cannot afford to overlook them. Mizzou needs this win if they want any shot at a possible #1 seed. I think if they win, they will take KUs #1 seed from them. I can't see how a 6 loss KU team that did not win the tournament, nor even make it to the finals gets a #1 over a 4 loss Mizzou team that wins their tournament, especially seeing how they split the regular season series.

mnchiefsguy 03-10-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 8436865)
Re: Thomas Robinson's, "this tournament isn't that important" comments after last night's loss. Would Mizzou fans be a little annoyed if Marcus Denmon said something similar after a loss? I mean, I get it. His team lost so he is trying to rationalize it. But, if you were a ku player, playing in a city that ku is so desperately trying to stamp as their own, would you make those comments?

Doesn't really matter, though. His huge pay check is coming regardless.

If one was a KU fan and spent $500 bucks a ticket to come down to Kemper to cheer on the Jayhawks, I would think they would be severely disappointed tp say the least at the level of effort they put on the court. It might not be that important to KU, but what kind of message does that send to their fans in KC and to the city. Guess all of those billboards they have around team really don't mean much.

mnchiefsguy 03-10-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8436906)
I know Mizzou has beaten Baylor twice this year but they need to come out firing on all cylinders if they want to win. They cannot afford to overlook them. Mizzou needs this win if they want any shot at a possible #1 seed. I think if they win, they will take KUs #1 seed from them. I can't see how a 6 loss KU team that did not win the tournament, nor even make it to the finals gets a #1 over a 4 loss Mizzou team that wins their tournament, especially seeing how they split the regular season series.

Baylor played maybe their best games of the season last night. Hopefully tons of Mizzou fans scooped up KU tickets and Sprint will be rocking. Mizzou will need to have a very good game to win. On the other hand, Baylor will need also need a very good game, for the second night in the row. Maybe Baylor will be content with beating KU and come out flat.

patteeu 03-10-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8436979)
Baylor played maybe their best games of the season last night. Hopefully tons of Mizzou fans scooped up KU tickets and Sprint will be rocking. Mizzou will need to have a very good game to win. On the other hand, Baylor will need also need a very good game, for the second night in the row. Maybe Baylor will be content with beating KU and come out flat.

Third night in a row. They played well Thursday too.

O.city 03-10-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8436906)
I know Mizzou has beaten Baylor twice this year but they need to come out firing on all cylinders if they want to win. They cannot afford to overlook them. Mizzou needs this win if they want any shot at a possible #1 seed. I think if they win, they will take KUs #1 seed from them. I can't see how a 6 loss KU team that did not win the tournament, nor even make it to the finals gets a #1 over a 4 loss Mizzou team that wins their tournament, especially seeing how they split the regular season series.

Could also swing both ways. How does a team that didn't win their regular season conference and actually lost it by two games get a one seed?

petegz28 03-10-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8437081)
Could also swing both ways. How does a team that didn't win their regular season conference and actually lost it by two games get a one seed?

I don't know, how does a football team that lost their division end up with a better bowl game than the winner?

gblowfish 03-10-2012 11:48 AM

I just got an email from Frank Haith!

Tiger Nation,

We cannot thank you enough for your support so far this season. Tonight at 5 pm we take on Baylor for the Big 12 Tournament Championship at the Sprint Center. We hope you are able to be there in person in Kansas City.

Please arrive early and BE LOUD. We need you to help us create a home court advantage at the Sprint Center. We want to hear that Black & Gold pride tonight. Help us show the nation that this is Kansas City, MISSOURI!

Our coaches, team and staff are proud to represent the University of Missouri and with your support we can bring home the Big 12 Championship to Columbia tonight. Please come out and support these young men that have poured there heart and soul into Mizzou Basketball.

Thank you & Go Tigers!

Coach Frank Haith

p.s. Please join us tomorrow for our Selection Sunday Event at Mizzou Arena! Doors open at 4 pm.

eazyb81 03-10-2012 12:01 PM

I couldn't care less about a 1 seed. The real prize is the St. Louis region, 1 or 2 seed.

If we're playing in St. Louis, I like our chances against any team in the country.

patteeu 03-10-2012 12:09 PM

I was just looking at Joe Lunardi's prospective brackets and noticed that he has Mizzou potentially facing off against Matt Painter's Boilermakers in the round of 32, fwiw.

Bearcat 03-10-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8436906)
I know Mizzou has beaten Baylor twice this year but they need to come out firing on all cylinders if they want to win. They cannot afford to overlook them. Mizzou needs this win if they want any shot at a possible #1 seed. I think if they win, they will take KUs #1 seed from them. I can't see how a 6 loss KU team that did not win the tournament, nor even make it to the finals gets a #1 over a 4 loss Mizzou team that wins their tournament, especially seeing how they split the regular season series.

As of today...

Team 1:
3-3 vs Top 25
10-3 vs Top 50
SoS - 80
Non-con SoS - 311
#16 RPI
#8 KenPom
#7 Sagarin


Team 2:
7-4 vs Top 25
11-5 vs Top 50
SoS - 6
Non-con SoS - 50
#6 RPI
#4 KenPom
#4 Sagarin

There's really no need to talk about conspiracy or "the name on the jersey" if KU ends up in St. Louis (and you there will be butthurt no matter who gets St. Louis). KU lost to a team that was in the top 5-10 for most of the season, and even if Missouri wins today, the numbers won't favor Missouri.

That said, I could see KU getting the 4th #1 in Phoenix and MU going to St. Louis as a #2... if Missouri wins today, the numbers will be close enough that outside of SoS, it's pretty much a coin toss.

KC_Connection 03-10-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8436782)
Yet Coach K, Roy, and Izzo make the final four on a regular basis. Underachieving teams call it a crap shoot when they want to pretend that they are truly elite.

You've called the NCAA tournament both a gimmick and a crapshoot in the past here, by the way. Probably because that's what it is.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8437438)
As of today...

Team 1:
3-3 vs Top 25
10-3 vs Top 50
SoS - 80
Non-con SoS - 311
#16 RPI
#8 KenPom
#7 Sagarin


Team 2:
7-4 vs Top 25
11-5 vs Top 50
SoS - 6
Non-con SoS - 50
#6 RPI
#4 KenPom
#4 Sagarin

There's really no need to talk about conspiracy or "the name on the jersey" if KU ends up in St. Louis (and you there will be butthurt no matter who gets St. Louis). KU lost to a team that was in the top 5-10 for most of the season, and even if Missouri wins today, the numbers won't favor Missouri.

That said, I could see KU getting the 4th #1 in Phoenix and MU going to St. Louis as a #2... if Missouri wins today, the numbers will be close enough that outside of SoS, it's pretty much a coin toss.

Does KU's loss last night count as a 1 or less since they weren't trying and the games don't count

KC_Connection 03-10-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8437438)
As of today...

Team 1:
3-3 vs Top 25
10-3 vs Top 50
SoS - 80
Non-con SoS - 311
#16 RPI
#8 KenPom
#7 Sagarin


Team 2:
7-4 vs Top 25
11-5 vs Top 50
SoS - 6
Non-con SoS - 50
#6 RPI
#4 KenPom
#4 Sagarin

There's really no need to talk about conspiracy or "the name on the jersey" if KU ends up in St. Louis (and you there will be butthurt no matter who gets St. Louis). KU lost to a team that was in the top 5-10 for most of the season, and even if Missouri wins today, the numbers won't favor Missouri.

That said, I could see KU getting the 4th #1 in Phoenix and MU going to St. Louis as a #2... if Missouri wins today, the numbers will be close enough that outside of SoS, it's pretty much a coin toss.

I think it would be funnier if they believed that it's a conspiracy, though, when it happens.

Spott 03-10-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8437438)
As of today...

Team 1:
3-3 vs Top 25
10-3 vs Top 50
SoS - 80
Non-con SoS - 311
#16 RPI
#8 KenPom
#7 Sagarin


Team 2:
7-4 vs Top 25
11-5 vs Top 50
SoS - 6
Non-con SoS - 50
#6 RPI
#4 KenPom
#4 Sagarin

There's really no need to talk about conspiracy or "the name on the jersey" if KU ends up in St. Louis (and you there will be butthurt no matter who gets St. Louis). KU lost to a team that was in the top 5-10 for most of the season, and even if Missouri wins today, the numbers won't favor Missouri.

That said, I could see KU getting the 4th #1 in Phoenix and MU going to St. Louis as a #2... if Missouri wins today, the numbers will be close enough that outside of SoS, it's pretty much a coin toss.


If team #1 is Missouri, then they are actually 6-1 against teams ranked in the top 25(ISU, KU, Notre Dame and Baylor) and Kansas is 6-5(Duke, Kentucky, Baylor, MU, OSU and Georgetown).

KC_Connection 03-10-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8437455)
If team #1 is Missouri, then they are actually 6-1 against teams ranked in the top 25(ISU, KU, Notre Dame and Baylor) and Kansas is 4-5(Duke, Kentucky, Baylor and MU).

The committee predominantly looks at RPI to seed teams, not polls made by people who don't watch the games.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-10-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8436782)
Yet Coach K, Roy, and Izzo make the final four on a regular basis. Underachieving teams call it a crap shoot when they want to pretend that they are truly elite.

Pretty much shows what you know in regards to the sport...

Here's a balloon. Now go play, and don't talk to strangers.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8437462)
Pretty much shows what you know in regards to the sport...

Here's a balloon. Now go play, and don't talk to strangers.

Might take your own advice since you don't have any game to watch tonight

Mr_Tomahawk 03-10-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8437466)
Might take your own advice since you don't have any game to watch tonight

Okay.

Actually...

"There are many game on TV tonight"

Cute.

Bearcat 03-10-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8437455)
If team #1 is Missouri, then they are actually 6-1 against teams ranked in the top 25(ISU, KU, Notre Dame and Baylor) and Kansas is 6-5(Duke, Kentucky, Baylor and MU, OSU and Geogetown).

I was going off what Sagarin showed... maybe they use the rankings at the time? :shrug:

KC_Connection 03-10-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8437476)
I was going off what Sagarin showed... maybe they use the rankings at the time? :shrug:

Sagarin's ratings have nothing to do with polls. The records you showed were referring to the Ws/Ls vs. the top 50 on his formula.

Saul Good 03-10-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8437462)
Pretty much shows what you know in regards to the sport...

Here's a balloon. Now go play, and don't talk to strangers.

You'll have to forgive me if I keep posting in the Mizzou thread despite your complaints.

|Zach| 03-10-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8437588)
You'll have to forgive me if I keep posting in the Mizzou thread despite your complaints.

ROFL

Bearcat 03-10-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8436782)
Yet Coach K, Roy, and Izzo make the final four on a regular basis. Underachieving teams call it a crap shoot when they want to pretend that they are truly elite.

Meh, Duke and MSU lose in the first weekend just about as much as Kansas... if Kansas had one, maybe 2 more Final Fours and another NC, there wouldn't be a huge difference between the schools (even though Coach K would still be 2 up in NCs). I think we'll cope.

Crush 03-10-2012 03:57 PM

Any updates on English?

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 8437769)
Any updates on English?

I speculate that he was a sore mother****er this morning

KcMizzou 03-10-2012 04:00 PM

Holly Rowe ‏ @sportsiren

At Mizzou shoot around. Kim English doing everything team is, despite thigh contusion. Will tell you on broadcast all he has done to treat.

Bearcat 03-10-2012 04:09 PM

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KcMizzou 03-10-2012 04:55 PM

http://www.mutigers.com/allaccess/?media=302396

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:05 PM

I thought this was scheduled for 5 PM?


I want my MIZZOU basketball!!!

Trevo_410 03-10-2012 05:08 PM

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...er4521_375.jpg

KcMizzou 03-10-2012 05:09 PM

Wow. Knight teared up about Pat taking Lamar to the tournament.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevo_410 (Post 8437929)

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:12 PM

You'd think that as many Mizzou games that Knight has done, he would know that it's Pressey, not Pressley.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:12 PM

Nice pass

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:12 PM

Nice.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:13 PM

BOOM English

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:14 PM

Denmon!!

Sassy Squatch 03-10-2012 05:14 PM

What the **** was that shot?

kcpasco 03-10-2012 05:15 PM

Gonna get killed on the glass again tonight. Hopefully those shots keep falling.

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 8437946)
What the **** was that shot?

Meh. I'd prefer they not take the quick 3, but if he hits it, we're saying what a great shot.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:17 PM

Uh oh. Denmon looks hot

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:17 PM

Denmon says he's due.

kcpasco 03-10-2012 05:19 PM

Baylor soft in the middle.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:19 PM

This is more like the game they played the first 3rd of the year

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:19 PM

Great start.

kcpasco 03-10-2012 05:21 PM

OMG Rebound please

Mr_Tomahawk 03-10-2012 05:22 PM

nick wright ‏ @getnickwright Close
Been saying it for a little while now... Missouri's absolute best is better than your absolute best... That includes Syracuse, Kentucky, etc

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:25 PM

Couldn't take advantage of the horrible foul call.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:26 PM

Acy sure has quick hands

petegz28 03-10-2012 05:30 PM

That was a clear charge...WTF?

Captain Obvious 03-10-2012 05:31 PM

If it's a foul, call it before you see if the freaking shot goes in. That's happened for both sides now.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:35 PM

ENGRISH

Dartgod 03-10-2012 05:38 PM

STEEEEEEEVE!!

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:46 PM

Missouri has hardly any fouls. Might as well do some hacking under the rim

redfan 03-10-2012 05:49 PM

TAUT

petegz28 03-10-2012 05:50 PM

we are going to have to keep driving and drawing fouls. Baylor is big but slow.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:50 PM

Nice play

redfan 03-10-2012 05:51 PM

RATRIFF

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:52 PM

Wonder who will have the legs in the second half

tredadda 03-10-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8438056)
we are going to have to keep driving and drawing fouls. Baylor is big but slow.

Exactly, they need to get Baylor's stars into foul trouble as they are killing Mizzou on the glass and down low. If Baylor uses their size this could be a long game. Also PJ III is having his way today and playing up to his talent level.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 05:59 PM

Good half for both teams

redfan 03-10-2012 06:01 PM

Damn good game so far.

crispystl 03-10-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8437977)
nick wright ‏ @getnickwright Close
Been saying it for a little while now... Missouri's absolute best is better than your absolute best... That includes Syracuse, Kentucky, etc

Interesting. How do you guys feel about this tweet? i think Syracuse at their absolute best is better than us, but it's interesting to think about.

Dartgod 03-10-2012 06:10 PM

We've gone a little cold from 3. Need to pick it and the rebounding up in the 2nd half.

Mosbonian 03-10-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 8438115)
Interesting. How do you guys feel about this tweet? i think Syracuse at their absolute best is better than us, but it's interesting to think about.

I'd say our best is just as good as their best....but Kentucky is a hair better than everyone else right now.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 06:16 PM

Baylor's one of the few teams that can run with us. Will be interesting to see if we try to run their legs out. Of course Missouri would be taking the chance of running themselves out plus English and Denmon are gimpy

crispystl 03-10-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 8438138)
I'd say our best is just as good as their best....but Kentucky is a hair better than everyone else right now.

I think we actually would be ok with Kentucky. I think our experience would help us a ton.

mlyonsd 03-10-2012 06:18 PM

That looked like hot potato there for a moment.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 06:18 PM

The Rat is quick

SPATCH 03-10-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 8438152)
I think we actually would be ok with Kentucky. I think our experience would help us a ton.

Baylor and Kentucky are fairly comparable(matchup-wise for mizzou), in my opinion. Kentucky's bigs are a bit more powerful, though.

stonedstooge 03-10-2012 06:19 PM

Tigers with a good start in the 2nd half

Dartgod 03-10-2012 06:19 PM

Great start to the 2nd half.

petegz28 03-10-2012 06:19 PM

the start of both halves has had Baylor calling quick TO's.

Mosbonian 03-10-2012 06:19 PM

Nah....KC's not Tiger country...

Dartgod 03-10-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8438163)
Tigers with a good start in the 2nd half

Great start dammit! :cuss:

redfan 03-10-2012 06:20 PM

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :)


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