ChiefsPlanet - NFL Draft Geno Smith fans roll call

You're ****ing reeruned if you can't figure conditions into the equation.

16/24 (numerous drops, including a drive killing third down that hit the receiver right in the middle of the chest)
197 yards
2 TDs (with another called back due to a penalty)
0 Ints
163.1 rating

In heavy snow and wind.

And that's a bad game?

What was your opinion of Nassib then, if you don't mind me asking?

You keep posting his stats as if it means something. Every "bad" play he had, you have some excuse for. You add some reeruned Qualifier in there in order to make it "not Smith's fault". I can give plenty of "yeah buts" too.

You say he had a 3rd down conversion? Yeah but, he also had a 3rd down were he completely missed his WR.

He threw two TD's. Yeah but, one was on a blown coverage where the defender slipped and fell.

yeah but, yeah but, yeah but, yeah but.

WTF is so hard about crediting him for the good things he did and calling him out for his shitty play? You say he didn't have a bad game when in fact, he had his worst game of the season.

"Yeah but...it was the Weather's fault"

**** THAT.

As Gochiefs had pointed out (in defense of Geno) that he's actually played a better game in similar, snowy conditions. And as OTWP58 has pointed out, good players are suppose excel despite those shitty conditions.

Yeah but, what about Nassib?

SERIOUSLY? Who gives a **** about Nassib? Are we talking about Nassib going #1 overall? Are you comparing the #1 QB in the draft to a guy who will likely be the 4th-6th QB off the board? You think that's a valid comparison?

Yeah but....

duncan_idaho

12-31-2012 11:52 AM

I am on-board with Geno Smith. Here's why...

1) The physical tools are all there. I think his arm strength is good enough to make the throws he will need to in the NFL.
2) He already understands touch and excels at fitting second-level throws into tight windows. Much easier to learn when and how to drill it than for a game with a cannon to learn how to throw with touch (Blaine Gabbert is a great example of this).
3) It's time. No, he isn't Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III (though he is viewed about like RG3 was until the combine last year). But he is a great QB candidate and someone who will build excitement, at least. Yes, it might not work. But years of drafting "known quantities" with high picks has failed. Time to try something different.

Buckweath

12-31-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258570)

You are ****ing reeruned. Even SNR, the biggest Geno Homer on this board would admit he had a bad game.

:facepalm: Anyone with a set of eyes could see he had a bad game. The mere fact that you cant even give an honest evaluation speaks volumes.

I fear you are the one thats reeruned. All things considered, I thought Geno had a decent game.

Saccopoo

12-31-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9258650)

Methinks our QB's were about half that for the year, and that was Geno's worst game of the year. I know apples to oranges college to NFL but Geno seems like the sure fire choice for #1.

They were.

Cassel was 66.7.

Quinn was 60.1.

ToxSocks

12-31-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9258688)

I fear you are the one thats reeruned. All things considered, I thought Geno had a decent game.

How? What did he do exactly that made it a good game?

The only thing Geno DIDN'T do in that game was throw an INT. That qualifies it as a good game?

notorious

12-31-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258341)

You wanna REALLY know how he did?

He struggled at times and looked good at times. There were moments where you could see his eyes and head run through his progressions like an all pro. Those would be accompanied by moments in which he locked onto one receiver. There were times when he got rid of the ball quickly, and there were times when he held the ball too long. He had a ball or two that were perfectly placed get dropped, and he had a few balls where he completely misfired.

He struggled to find any consistency at all. Im sure the weather and coaching played a part in it, but they alone are not the reason he struggled so much.

He took TWO sacks for safties. It's not just the fact that he took two sacks like that, it's the fact that he took them JUST as the WV was gaining momentum. One came after the defense forced a turnover. He also fumbled a center/QB exchange. His Lone big play came on pass where the defender slipped and fell. To his credit, he also had a short slant that went the distance, but was called back due to a penalty.

Despite all that, he still showed off his impressive accuracy, quick release and above avg athleticism.

THAT is the truth.

Thanks.

jd1020

12-31-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258710)

How? What did he do exactly that made it a good game?

The only thing Geno DIDN'T do in that game was throw an INT. That qualifies it as a good game?

I didn't watch the game, but... in before SS of his stat sheet. Or am I too late?

Reaper16

12-31-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9258680)

I am on-board with Geno Smith. Here's why...

1) The physical tools are all there. I think his arm strength is good enough to make the throws he will need to in the NFL.
2) He already understands touch and excels at fitting second-level throws into tight windows. Much easier to learn when and how to drill it than for a game with a cannon to learn how to throw with touch (Blaine Gabbert is a great example of this).
3) It's time. No, he isn't Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III (though he is viewed about like RG3 was until the combine last year). But he is a great QB candidate and someone who will build excitement, at least. Yes, it might not work. But years of drafting "known quantities" with high picks has failed. Time to try something different.

Yes. I think so too.

Pin Head

12-31-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9250758)

C'mon TEX, I'm seriously interested in who you think is the #1 overall pick.

You are so quick to criticize Geno for whatever reason is in your head, so quick to say he's not worth the #1 overall pick in this specific draft that you have to have an opinion on who is actually worth that pick. Especially for the Chiefs.

C'mon man...let's hear it.

In a draft devoid of high end QB talent, he's seen as valuable. And he is because of the need. Infact, the Chiefs will use their #1 overall and way overdraft for a so-so prospect. I understand that you are crazy at this point but can't continue to draft for need in the top 5. Chiefs need franchise players with those picks.

Saccopoo

12-31-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258671)

WTF is so hard about crediting him for the good things he did and calling him out for his shitty play? You say he didn't have a bad game when in fact, he had his worst game of the season.

The K-State game was his worst of the season.

In the Pinstripe Bowl he showed the ability to quickly go through his progressions and made some nice throws - the two outs on the far side of the field were excellent throws.

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"Yeah but...it was the Weather's fault"

It took the deep threat out of his hands, which is one of his strengths. That and Syracuse running the ball so effectively.

Quote:

**** THAT.

Whatever. You don't think that the weather played a part, then I don't know what to tell you.

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As Gochiefs had pointed out (in defense of Geno) that he's actually played a better game in similar, snowy conditions. And as OTWP58 has pointed out, good players are suppose excel despite those shitty conditions.

So, if:

16/24
197 yards
2 TDs
0 Ints
163.1 rating

is shit and his worst game, considering the conditions, what were your expectations? What did Geno have to do to meet your approval?

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Yeah but, what about Nassib?

SERIOUSLY? Who gives a **** about Nassib? Are we talking about Nassib going #1 overall? Are you comparing the #1 QB in the draft to a guy who will likely be the 4th-6th QB off the board? You think that's a valid comparison?

Because if you would rather not draft Geno with the first pick, and, say, go LT Luke Joeckel, then you are probably looking at a guy like Nassib in the second round.

And I think it's a valid comparison in the exact same game and conditions that you are judging Geno with. Nassib is a high level college QB that has set almost every single Syracuse passing record. He's accurate with a strong arm. Plus he had the support of a much better run game.

I think it's a valid comparison in an effort to see how much the weather conditions actually affected the passing game that day.

But you keep ****ing ranting on about somebody else not being able to see the "big picture." You go you.

Saccopoo

12-31-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9258778)

Okay, so who's that franchise player?

I'm ****ing begging you to give me the guy who is that "FRANCHISE" guy that the Chiefs should take with their #1 pick if it isn't Geno Smith.

kingme20

12-31-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9257345)

Life is tough. Life is tougher when you're a ****ing dumb ****.

how about you watch a real QB

O.city

12-31-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9258778)

So it's deviod of Qb talent, but what is tihs other high end talent you speak of.

kingme20

12-31-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9257755)

You're actually pretty close SNR.

If you want to know who the guy that Glennon reminds me of in college it's Ricky Stanzi.

dumbest thing i've ever heard , wow

Saccopoo

12-31-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kingme20 (Post 9258830)

dumbest thing i've ever heard , wow

Considering that your lifetime 21 posts contributions to this message board are borderline illiterate one sentence negativitisms solely meant to criticize a singular potential draft pick, your credibility is ****ing zero.

You're nothing but a ****ing worthless cocksucking troll. Go **** your mother.

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