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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9258889)

Considering that your lifetime 21 posts contributions to this message board are borderline illiterate one sentence negativitisms solely meant to criticize a singular potential draft pick, your credibility is ****ing zero.

You're nothing but a ****ing worthless cocksucking troll. Go **** your mother.

I just signed up and you seriously need help ROFLROFL

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9258781)

The K-State game was his worst of the season.

In the Pinstripe Bowl he showed the ability to quickly go through his progressions and made some nice throws - the two outs on the far side of the field were excellent throws.

It took the deep threat out of his hands, which is one of his strengths. That and Syracuse running the ball so effectively.

Whatever. You don't think that the weather played a part, then I don't know what to tell you.

So, if:

16/24
197 yards
2 TDs
0 Ints
163.1 rating

is shit and his worst game, considering the conditions, what were your expectations? What did Geno have to do to meet your approval?

Because if you would rather not draft Geno with the first pick, and, say, go LT Luke Joeckel, then you are probably looking at a guy like Nassib in the second round.

And I think it's a valid comparison in the exact same game and conditions that you are judging Geno with. Nassib is a high level college QB that has set almost every single Syracuse passing record. He's accurate with a strong arm. Plus he had the support of a much better run game.

I think it's a valid comparison in an effort to see how much the weather conditions actually affected the passing game that day.

But you keep ****ing ranting on about somebody else not being able to see the "big picture." You go you.

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Jesus H. Christ son.

I challenge you to find ONE post where i say we shouldn't draft Geno. ONE.

This is the shit im talking about right here. You are so up in arms and defensive over your boy, that you are making shit up and not seeing the big picture.

Im not debating with anyone on whether we should take Geno #1 Overall. I have NEVER, EVER objected taking him #1, and have certainly, NEVER, EVER suggested we take anything other than a QB 1st overall. To suggest otherwise is plain reeruned. The problem here is that if you dare question the mesiah's performance, you instantly get lumped into the group of ****tards who would rather sign Alex Smith.

I'm debating the stupid ****s that wanna say he had a good game.

You keep posting his numbers over and over again as if they give some validity to your claim, when anyone who watched the game knows otherwise.

Yes, his completion % was high. "Yeah but", he was throwing short passes the entire game, and the majority of his yardage came from YAC.

He didn't adjust well to the pressure. If he did, WV wouldn't have been 0-10 on 3rd down conversions. Syracuse brought pressure all game long. Geno was never able to make them pay for it.

"yeah but, it was the defenses fault too"

People seem to forget that it was a 12-7 game at halftime and the defense had held well AND forced turnovers. In situations like that, you expect your #1 overall to capitalize on that, not give the ball right back and completely swing the Momentum the other way.

Listen, I believe in Geno Smith. I believe he has all of the physical tools to be a great QB in the NFL.

But on Saturday, a day in which he set out to silence his critics and put some distance between he and the rest of the QB class, he fell flat on his face. He knows it too. Hence his emotional outbursts during the game. Even the talking heads mentioned it regarding the conversations they had with Geno.

If Peeholi stays, we can kiss this shit goodbye.

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9259037)

If Peeholi stays, we can kiss this shit goodbye.

Not if his role is reduced to Janitorial duties/candy wrapper picker upper.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258961)

People seem to forget that it was a 12-7 game at halftime and the defense had held well AND forced turnovers. In situations like that, you expect your #1 overall to capitalize on that, not give the ball right back and completely swing the Momentum the other way.

Like getting two TD's called back for penalties?

Like a CB dropping a sure fire pick six that hit him square in the chest?

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But on Saturday, a day in which he set out to silence his critics and put some distance between he and the rest of the QB class, he fell flat on his face. He knows it too. Hence his emotional outbursts during the game. Even the talking heads mentioned it regarding the conversations they had with Geno.

Then we just see the game differently.

I saw two highly rated QB's both struggle in adverse weather conditions who normally would have put up huge offensive numbers. As far as I saw it, it was not a game where that was ever going to happen. And, again, as I saw it, Geno did what he needed to do as a QB in that situation. Asking him to go for 500 yards and four TDs in that situation is absolutely unrealistic - again, at least to me.

His emotional outburst was due to the missed leg whip call. That was a nine point swing. I'd be pissed to. But as soon as he came to the sidelines, he was calm and went right to his offensive line and tried to pump them up stating "we can get right back in this."

Unfortunately, Syracuse dominated the time of possession and defensively made West Virginia a one dimensional team - a team that had to go downfield with the pass in a game where that was virtually impossible.

But keep ****ing going nuts because I won't agree with you that Geno Smith shit down his leg, that he screwed the pooch, fell flat on his face, that he was horribad and that the numbers are completely irrelevant with zero considerations for weather conditions and that it is stupid to even bring up the performance of the other QB's performance (which was substantially worse) because he doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 9245290)

i hate to say it, but its because he is black. people just cant f*ing look past that i guess. That would be the only reason to compare him to vick, and jamarcus like i keep seeing people do. Jesus i hate people. Anyways i cant wait to see Geno in the good old Red and gold.

Geno Smith seems like another T Jackson for that matter - though deep down inside a lot of Chiefs fans already know that Geno Smith is a Chad Pennington level prospect.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9259133)

Like getting two TD's called back for penalties?

Like a CB dropping a sure fire pick six that hit him square in the chest?

Then we just see the game differently.

I saw two highly rated QB's both struggle in adverse weather conditions who normally would have put up huge offensive numbers. As far as I saw it, it was not a game where that was ever going to happen. And, again, as I saw it, Geno did what he needed to do as a QB in that situation. Asking him to go for 500 yards and four TDs in that situation is absolutely unrealistic - again, at least to me.

His emotional outburst was due to the missed leg whip call. That was a nine point swing. I'd be pissed to. But as soon as he came to the sidelines, he was calm and went right to his offensive line and tried to pump them up stating "we can get right back in this."

Unfortunately, Syracuse dominated the time of possession and defensively made West Virginia a one dimensional team - a team that had to go downfield with the pass in a game where that was virtually impossible.

But keep ****ing going nuts because I won't agree with you that Geno Smith shit down his leg, that he screwed the pooch, fell flat on his face, that he was horribad and that the numbers are completely irrelevant with zero considerations for weather conditions and that it is stupid to even bring up the performance of the other QB's performance (which was substantially worse) because he doesn't matter.

WV scored 14 points and you think Geno did what he needed to do to win that game? He made critical mistakes in key situations that could've changed the outcome of that game. And That's good enough? That's what a QB is suppose to do? Are you ****ing with me or something?

And I've given consideration to the weather. I'm pretty sure it wasn't even an hour ago posted it. I just don't give nearly as much weight to it as you do. No one expected a 500 yard performance, go ahead and continue making shit up though. An effecient performance woulda been nice.

And yes, it is stupid to Compare Nassib's performance to Geno's. You want to compare a 3rd round prospect to a #1 overall and act like that somehow validates Geno's game?

Yeah Nassib had a bad game. Uhm...so ****ing what? The fact that you want to compare the 4th-6th QB to be taken to Geno Smith does not do your argument any favors.

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9259164)

Geno Smith seems like another T Jackson for that matter - though deep down inside a lot of Chiefs fans already know that Geno Smith is a Chad Pennington level prospect.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259215)

And I've given consideration to the weather. I'm pretty sure it wasn't even an hour ago posted it. I just don't give nearly as much weight to it as you do. No one expected a 500 yard performance, go ahead and continue making shit up though. An effecient performance woulda been nice.

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And yes, it is stupid to Compare Nassib's performance to Geno's. You want to compare a 3rd round prospect to a #1 overall and act like that somehow validates Geno's game?

Yeah Nassib had a bad game. Uhm...so ****ing what? The fact that you want to compare the 4th-6th QB to be taken to Geno Smith does not do your argument any favors.

It is a completely valid comparison. WVU's pass defense was literally one of the very worst in college football. This is a game where Nassib should have ****ing raped them. Nassib was most likely the best passing QB that WVU saw all season long. It's not Geno versus Nassib. It's Nassib versus the WVU horrific pass defense. He should have put epic level numbers on that defense.

But, you know, he's only a borderline first rounder so his performance doesn't matter in the same exact situation, right?

Geno Smith is the second coming of Akili Smith.

He would be a terrible #1 pick.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9259289)

Like I said, if:

16/24
197 yards
2 TDs
0 Ints
163.1 rating

isn't effecient, if that's "falling flat on your face" and if you've "given consideration to the weather," and knowing that a pass TD and a run TD that Geno audibled into were called back due to penalities not caused by Geno, I'd really like to know what your expectations of an nice "efficient performance" would have been.

Seriously. I'll be waiting.

It is a completely valid comparison. WVU's pass defense was literally one of the very worst in college football. This is a game where Nassib should have ****ing raped them. Nassib was most likely the best passing QB that WVU saw all season long. It's not Geno versus Nassib. It's Nassib versus the WVU horrific pass defense. He should have put epic level numbers on that defense.

But, you know, he's only a borderline first rounder so his performance doesn't matter in the same exact situation, right?

There you go with those ****ing numbers again....ROFL

It's like arguing with a drunk guy.

Geno Smith is #1 for the influence of Trolls on chiefsplanet.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9258802)

Okay, so who's that franchise player?

I'm ****ing begging you to give me the guy who is that "FRANCHISE" guy that the Chiefs should take with their #1 pick if it isn't Geno Smith.

You can't be pleased unless I tell you that Geno Smith is like RG3

Well, he isn't. Not even close.

Think the Chiefs are merely a QB and a coach away from excellence? Of course you do because that's just two moves and presto "We're Good"...much like your fantasy that a good QB will turn a perrenial 2-14 bottom feeder into a contender?

The Chiefs will be picking almost as high in the 2014 draft. With Geno Smith I see a team with a 2013 season of suck and a 2014 and 2015seasons of 7-9type ball before the Chiefs realize that they need to upgrade above Smiths averageness.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259353)

There you go with those ****ing numbers again....ROFL

It's like arguing with a drunk guy.

Thanks for your answer.

It's exactly what I expected.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9259471)

Thanks for your answer.

It's exactly what I expected.

you want me to argue with you, when you can't even get past his stat sheet.

You think Geno played "good enough".

Sorry, but like arguing with a drunk, it's not worth my time.

But, like most offseasons, you can sit there alone with your opinions.