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fairladyZ 12-31-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9259289)
Like I said, if:

16/24
197 yards
2 TDs
0 Ints
163.1 rating

isn't effecient, if that's "falling flat on your face" and if you've "given consideration to the weather," and knowing that a pass TD and a run TD that Geno audibled into were called back due to penalities not caused by Geno, I'd really like to know what your expectations of an nice "efficient performance" would have been.

You forget about the 2 safeties, the 2 lost fumbles (even the fumble on 4th &1 from under center, he got back is still a lost fumble in my eyes as the ball went over on downs) and you STILL think he had a good game? ROFL

O.city 12-31-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9259492)
You forget about the 2 safeties, the 2 lost fumbles (even the fumble on 4th &1 from under center, he got back is still a lost fumble in my eyes as the ball went over on downs) and you STILL think he had a good game? ROFL

It didn't go ovver on downs, Syracuse called TO.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9259492)
You forget about the 2 safeties, the 2 lost fumbles (even the fumble on 4th &1 from under center, he got back is still a lost fumble in my eyes as the ball went over on downs) and you STILL think he had a good game? ROFL

Don't forget the 0-10 on 3rd down and 0-2 on 4th down.

It's okay though, he did everything he was suppose to do as a QB.

You're just asking for too much.

Saccopoo 12-31-2012 01:29 PM

Okay troll, I'll play...

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9259457)
You can't be pleased unless I tell you that Geno Smith is like RG3

Well, he isn't. Not even close.

I know that they are not close. They are two completely different types of quarterbacks. Griffin's game relies on his legs to get him/his downfield receivers open. Smith is a pocket QB with the athleticism/mobility to make a play with his legs only when he has to. In fact, he probably trusts his arm too much at times when he could take off downfield.

Think of Griffin as a smart version of Michael Vick and Geno as an Aaron Rogers if you want the most appropos NFL comparisons.

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Think the Chiefs are merely a QB and a coach away from excellence? Of course you do because that's just two moves and presto "We're Good"...much like your fantasy that a good QB will turn a perrenial 2-14 bottom feeder into a contender?

The Chiefs will be picking almost as high in the 2014 draft. With Geno Smith I see a team with a 2013 season of suck and a 2014 and 2015seasons of 7-9type ball before the Chiefs realize that they need to upgrade above Smiths averageness.
So, Troll, I'll ask you this like I've asked most of the other trolls:

Who is your pick at #1?

If Geno Smith isn't worth the #1 pick, who is, and if it's not a QB, then how do you address the Kansas City Chiefs QB situation?

fairladyZ 12-31-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9259496)
It didn't go ovver on downs, Syracuse called TO.

it was 4th&1 and he fumbled the snap and fell on it.. ball went back to S.. How do you not figure it wasn't a turnover because S called a timeout? seriously?

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9259496)
It didn't go ovver on downs, Syracuse called TO.

I'm curious to hear other's opinions on this.

Do you think Geno had a good game?

Do you think he did enough as a QB to win that game?

I'm not asking you to evaluate Geno as a prospect. I'm asking you to evaluate that game, and tell me how it was "good".

Saccopoo 12-31-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9259492)
You forget about the 2 safeties, the 2 lost fumbles (even the fumble on 4th &1 from under center, he got back is still a lost fumble in my eyes as the ball went over on downs) and you STILL think he had a good game? ROFL

It's already been addressed, stupid troll mult.

O.city 12-31-2012 01:31 PM

Good lord guys.


He made some good plays against Syracuse and he made some bad plays. Threw some good balls, stayed in the pocket a little too long at times and made the wrong pre snap reads.


It's wasn't an awful game, it wasn't a good game. It was an average game, which is fine.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9259518)
It's already been addressed, stupid troll mult.

Yes, we know. It's everything elses fault, just not Geno's.

O.city 12-31-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9259515)
it was 4th&1 and he fumbled the snap and fell on it.. ball went back to S.. How do you not figure it wasn't a turnover because S called a timeout? seriously?

Prior to the snap, Syracuse called TO. Therefor the play didn't count.



Atlest IIRC the right play, where he actually got the first down but a TO was called.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9259528)
Good lord guys.


He made some good plays against Syracuse and he made some bad plays. Threw some good balls, stayed in the pocket a little too long at times and made the wrong pre snap reads.


It's wasn't an awful game, it wasn't a good game. It was an average game, which is fine.

Fair enough.

It's pretty much what i stated to Notorius this morning.

Not sure why that's so difficult for saccoshit to figure out.

Instead he wants to tell notorius that he had a "good game"

Saccopoo 12-31-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259485)
you want me to argue with you, when you can't even get past his stat sheet.

You think Geno played "good enough".

Sorry, but like arguing with a drunk, it's not worth my time.

But, like most offseasons, you can sit there alone with your opinions.

C'mon man, don't be a pussy.

You've called Geno's performance "falling flat on his face" and expected an "efficient" game from him, all things considered.

I'd like to know what you would have thought would have been "efficient" with "all things considered."

Let's hear it, versus you trying to weasel out of it.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9258341)
You wanna REALLY know how he did?

He struggled at times and looked good at times. There were moments where you could see his eyes and head run through his progressions like an all pro. Those would be accompanied by moments in which he locked onto one receiver. There were times when he got rid of the ball quickly, and there were times when he held the ball too long. He had a ball or two that were perfectly placed get dropped, and he had a few balls where he completely misfired.

He struggled to find any consistency at all. Im sure the weather and coaching played a part in it, but they alone are not the reason he struggled so much.

He took TWO sacks for safties. It's not just the fact that he took two sacks like that, it's the fact that he took them JUST as the WV was gaining momentum. One came after the defense forced a turnover. He also fumbled a center/QB exchange. His Lone big play came on pass where the defender slipped and fell. To his credit, he also had a short slant that went the distance, but was called back due to a penalty.

Despite all that, he still showed off his impressive accuracy, quick release and above avg athleticism.

THAT is the truth.

This is it.

fairladyZ 12-31-2012 01:33 PM

If he wouldn't have hurt his team by getting 2 safeties and 2 fumbles then it WOULD have been an average game and what you SHOULD expect from the #1 rated QB in bad conditions. But the fact is he did more to hurt his team then help with his play. He made some bad throws, he made a handful of good throws. But it doesn't take back the points he cost his team with turnovers.

Geno has all the tools but what i wanted to see is if he had it mentally and he just doesn't, He has 0 situational awarness, and he cracks when things dont go his way.

O.city 12-31-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259537)
Fair enough.

It's pretty much what i stated to Notorius this morning.

Not sure why that's so difficult for saccoshit to figure out.

Instead he wants to tell notorius that he had a "good game"

He was efficient and I don't think the playcalling helped him out much, but he made a few plays where he tried to do too much.


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