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rocknrolla 07-26-2011 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 7774067)
If we could somehow grab moss(preferably)/ breaston, marion barber and mcclain i would piss myself with joy.
jimp. THAT WOULD BE HUGE! Moss and McClain would be great.

Sofa King 07-26-2011 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7774141)
So then the NFL should only reward TDs to the QBs if the WRs actually catch it in the endzone?
They should also blame the QB in the wr drops it. It's only fair.

Rams Fan 07-26-2011 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7774141)
So then the NFL should only reward TDs to the QBs if the WRs actually catch it in the endzone?
That isn't what I'm arguing about that, I'm arguing that TD completions aren't exactly the best way to judge a QB.

I think a better way to judge a QB is by completion percentage, interceptions etc.

But you could make a case that a QB's completion percentage could be higher if multiple WRs didn't drop passes.

Amnorix 07-26-2011 12:39 PM
Probably old news already, but Pats will cut Tully Banta-Cain. He needs abdominal surgery, but that should only shelve him for 4-5 weeks.

No idea how the Pats plan to have a pass rush, but that's another story.

OnTheWarpath15 07-26-2011 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 7774098)
So having a younger version of thomas jones would hurt our team? Cmon, we arent THAT good.
Barber's a younger version of TJ?

ROFL

Amnorix 07-26-2011 12:41 PM
QBs should be judged on (1) winning, (2) completion percentage, (3) Int percentage, and (4) TD/INT ratio.

Not much else is relevant. Winning comes into play in the sense of trying to judge his leadership and intangibles. Obviously, he could be stuck with a crap team, and you need to factor that in, but what makes the great GREAT is that they win. More than anyone else on the team, it's the QB's job to will his team to victory.

The Bad Guy 07-26-2011 12:42 PM
Some of you mother ****ers are so fixated on a name player that was good 3 years ago it's sickening.

Marion Barber is dogshit.

DMAC 07-26-2011 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7774160)
Barber's a younger version of TJ?

ROFL
He is younger and gets stuffed at line of scrimmage, perhaps that is the comparison...?

nychief 07-26-2011 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7774165)
Some of you mother ****ers are so fixated on a name player that was good 3 years ago it's sickening.

Marion Barber is dogshit.
ha!

OnTheWarpath15 07-26-2011 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7774104)
he says on twitter that he is a fullback first but he wants to be more involved into any offense he ends up in.
That won't be a problem here.

We'd be stupid to sign him to be a FB only.

Dude is a perfect option to take over for TJ. Give him 200 carries, let him block a bit.

Versatile enough to do both very well, while opening up a roster spot.

mcaj22 07-26-2011 12:44 PM
Seriously, Marion Barber sucks

this shouldn't even be an argument

Quesadilla Joe 07-26-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7774165)
Some of you mother ****ers are so fixated on a name player that was good 3 years ago it's sickening.

Marion Barber is dogshit.
Why are you so angry?

the Talking Can 07-26-2011 12:44 PM
how's this for a laugh:

Marion Barber contract 2008:
He signed a seven-year, $45 million deal in 2008, with $16 million guaranteed

Jamal Charles contract 2011:
Signed a six-year, $27.97 million contract. The deal contains $10 million guaranteed, including an $8 million first-year roster bonus and $2 million of his second-year salary.

Hammock Parties 07-26-2011 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7774157)
No idea how the Pats plan to have a pass rush, but that's another story.
Cassel, Week 11: 24/35 457 yards 5 TD, 0 INT

mnchiefsguy 07-26-2011 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7774163)
QBs should be judged on (1) winning, (2) completion percentage, (3) Int percentage, and (4) TD/INT ratio.

Not much else is relevant. Winning comes into play in the sense of trying to judge his leadership and intangibles. Obviously, he could be stuck with a crap team, and you need to factor that in, but what makes the great GREAT is that they win. More than anyone else on the team, it's the QB's job to will his team to victory.
Exactly, and of those attributes you listed, the will to win is the toughest to judge, due to the intangibles needed. That is what makes getting a great QB a difficult task, and why they don't grow on trees.


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