Carson Palmer was a local star in college. Cassel was a backup.

Palmer has more name recognition and generates more buzz.

Cassel may actually be the better QB at this point.... as crazy as that sounds...

Name change

Plunkett was 30 when he left the 9ers & went to Oakland

Old Palmer no.... current palmer.... maybe.

I still think Palmer is better, but not by as big of a margin as you think. And, given the fact that he has no training camp, no offseason workouts and is not familiar with the Raiders..... Cassel may be the better QB as of right now.

Oh, and in 2010, Cassel had fewer yards, but had a higher passer rating, more TD's, less than half the INT's and averaged more yards per pass.

You have to hope that I am wrong. But, a close look at 2010's stats would say that the argument has some merit.

Hey, we can't debate the current year because, well, Palmer quit on his old team.

But, now that he has a new team, we can compare from this point forward.

And, I can't wait. It is pretty rare for a QB to come in and not have some growing pains with a new team. (speaking from experience) Cassel came in and struggled his first year, but went on to put up good numbers in his second season in KC. (more TD's and fewer int's than Palmer)

Trent Green had a similar experience.

It will be interesting to see how Carson does with this situation.

Can't wait to watch it unfold.

Put Cassel on the 2010 Bengals and see how well he does. It takes 3 of Palmers targets to equal 1 of Cassels and he wont have that #1 rushing attack to hide behind. Not to mention he's got 4 games against the Ravens and Steelers, 1 NE, 1 NYJ, 1 NO.

Ya... Good luck Cassel.

Why are all you boobs paying any attention to this deal?
All it shows is that Al's spirit is still alive and well. This is the Chargers division. We own it. The Turds will continue to suck for yet another decade. End of story.

You are right. He was 33 when he came in for Pastorini.

Would you say that Palmer is going to a better situation than the Chiefs are currently in?

Would you say a comparison of Palmer and Cassel would be more fair this year?

I think it will be pretty close. Carson is probably better, if you give him a full offseason and time with the team.

But, right now, at this moment..... Cassel is probably the better QB.

Cassel and Palmer have the same number of playoff wins.

Congrats.

Cassel is a disgrace to the position.

What O-line struggles are you referring to? Raiders O-line is tied for the fewest sacks allowed in the NFL (7), and one of those was a botched kneeldown. Another was Campbell tripping on McFadden's foot. Their run blocking is also fine, #2 in the league. Raiders are 8th in scoring & have the leading rusher. What are the current struggles on the Raider O-line?

And yet, his QB rating for this year is higher than all but two of Palmer's seasons.

He is on pace to throw for as many or more TD's than all but two of Palmer's seasons.

Sure, he isn't on pace as far as yardage...but he also isn't on pace as far as interceptions.

Oh, and he is currently completing 66% of his passes, which is higher than all but one year for Palmer.

I have no love for Cassel... but given what Cassel is and how well he compares to Carson of late.... what does that say about Palmer?

I stand corrected. I read something somewhere about their o-line grading out poorly. I thought a large part of the reason they had few sacks was because of Campbell buying time.

But, if I am wrong, I am man enough to admit it. It will be interesting to see how well those sack stats hold up with Carson back there.

LMAO Watch the ****ing games. He's doing this, this, this, and this but I forgot to mention he throws the ball 3 yards at a time.

In order for me to be influenced by these stats, you would have to break down how much either goes down the field. 66% is nice, but if its all check downs or short throws it doesn't do much. I would much rather have a guy that stretches it throwing 60% then a guy that doesn't throwing 66%.

To me the reason the % and INTs are different is because Cassel doesn't risk it. If you golf and never hit a wood/driver off the tee your not going to hit it OB as much. Your FIR might be higher. Defending Cassel stats you would have to ignore GIR and success on tougher courses where distance matters. Damn good analogy if I do say so myself, and I do.

Palmer isn't what he once was, and what he was once was a QB on the cusp of being really really good. He isn't that anymore. The arguement of who is better between Cassel and Palmer is worthless to me because neither is taking a team to the promise land, the Super Bowl, so it doesn't matter.

Oakland can do all they want making the playoffs. All I care about are Championships. If my team doesn't get one I don't brag. If my rivals don't get one what they say literally means nothing. Braging about anything other than winning the title is reserved for those foolish enough to think almost means anything, which it doesn't.

So Raiders, until this wins you a Championship STFU. Chargers, until you actually nut up and do what you are sujpposed to be capable of, STFU. Broncos fans, congrats on the cheating for the SB a DECADE plus ago. Chiefs fans, I was -15 when we won the big dance. That wouldn't be horrible if I was like 3 now, which I am not.