How many more 'He's just a Mormon! He doesn't understand technology, or lies, or anything!!' posts are we going to have to endure?

He's not a kid. A 12 year old is a kid. He is a grown man (albeit a young one) who is fully capable of knowing right from wrong.

I am not in favor of condemning a 20-23 yr old for life for a mistake like this or using it to define his character especially in this case as he seems like a good dude otherwise but playing the "he's just a kid" card is excuse mongering. Whatever he lied about he knew what he was doing. Now perhaps he didn't fully consider the consequences (I'm sure that probably happened) until he was in too deep and the whole thing got away from him but that doesn't take away from knowing what he was doing was in fact wrong from the get go.

Only on Chiefsplanet will you find an expert on the elusive somalian mormon of the rural south pacific.

You don't have to read this thread.

If you don't like opinions contrary to your own maybe a discussion forum isn't the best place to be. You are here voluntarily, no one is forcing you to read anything.

Or a narrow minded jackass. Oh, wait, they are everywhere. Nevermind.

By the way, Hawaii is in the North Pacific. Look at a map.

I liked it the most when it was breaded and fried.

So, after the latest story I linked, are you going to still refer to me a "narrow-minded"?

BTW Superstar, I've been married to a Pacific Islander for more than a decade and shit you've thrown out is not only racist, but untrue.

It is neither racist nor untrue. You clearly don't know Hawaii. I haven't even mentioned that he is Samoan, that was others (and you). It truly does not matter here, and there was no reason for me to bring it up. I only mentioned that he is from a small town and a Mormon. Since you are apparently unaware, in Laie there are white Mormons, and Samoan Mormons, and Asian Mormons, and Hawaiian Mormons. And probably a few others too.

Calling me racist is the dumbest thing you have said in a longtime. I never even typed the word "Samoan" until this post. Hell, you don't even know what race I am, so how can you claim I'm a racist?

Next you're going to tell me he's not somalian either.


Stop embarrassing yourself over defending someone simply because you live on the same island. Your suspension of logic is laughable.

Yes, lots of explanations are possible but you need to take a hard look at the ones that are actually plausible. Notre Dame isn't the jungle book, and Man'ti isn't Mowgli.

I'm not doing that. I couldn't care less about him, I'm just explaining things you clearly don't understand - and don't want to understand.

YOU brought up his race (the wrong one too). I don't bring up race unless it is relevant, and it isn't. I did bring up culture, which has nothing to do with race. The culture of Hawaii is a mix of all the places the people here have come from, and it is a lot of places.

And here I thought those in Hawaii were carefree... F'in mainstream media and entertainment just pumping out lies left and right about Hawaii.

Splatbass, set the record straight here man. We all know Te'o was in a three year strictly online relationship with a car-wrecked, Leukemia stricken girl who coincidentally died on the same day as his Grandma. You can't make this stuff up, folks.

Oh, wait...

First off, I never mentioned he was Samoan. Secondly, my wife isn't Samoan, so I'm not even sure where that came from.

While it's true that I'm not Hawaiian nor have I lived in Hawaii, I've never disparaged you for living in Hawaii, regardless of your race. Yet you have constantly and consistently disparaged me for where I live and for what I do for a living.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror. You are the person that told us that we didn't know about Hawaiians.

YOU are the person that described Te'o as a possible "Dupe", due to his family and their ancestry.

If that's not racist, I'm not sure you understand the definition.

No I haven't. I have disparaged you because you act like an ass a lot of the time here. You dish it out, so you should be able to take it, why can't you?

I have only mentioned your living in this thread, and only to demonstrate a point - that people online take you at your word that you live in Hollywood so it isn't a stretch that someone could take what someone claims about themselves online as true. Too bad it went right over your head.

I'm surprised he didn't show up for Heisman ceremonies hugging torches in a grass skirt. He's just an innocent child from a little fishing hut on a deserted island. He probably didn't know airplanes existed until he flew to ND on a football scholarship that earned when a scout miraculously spotted him bounding through jungle while on a birdwatching expedition.