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C3HIEF3S 08-11-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12363677)
Our method of developing dominating aces is a bit unconventional but you can't argue with the results.

Just quit the game, find yourself, come back, get sent to the bullpen full time, get a rotation shot again and BAM, just like that.. over the course of five years.

C3HIEF3S 08-11-2016 09:24 PM

He's definitely in the conversation for AL CY, and this year is a pretty down year for AL pitchers in general. If he keeps this pace up for the rest of the year then I think he has a shot. I saw a projection in an article yesterday actually that has him around 185 IP if he continues the pace he has been on recently. In addition to his K/9 and (since people just love to look at this meaningless figure) he has only lost one game this year.

He's in the mix, no doubt.

Chiefspants 08-11-2016 09:27 PM

Out of curiosity, who was the last starting pitcher to win the CY without 200 innings pitched?

DaneMcCloud 08-11-2016 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12363677)
Our method of developing dominating aces is a bit unconventional but you can't argue with the results.

Royals' Ashe Russell: Unable to pitch since June 23
by RotoWire Staff | Special to CBSSports.com

Russell, the Royals' 2015 first round pick, has only thrown two total innings in 2016.

Russell was assigned to the Arizona Rookie League and has made just two starts this season, lasting only one inning each time. The team has made no official announcement on why he has not thrown more this year.

Chiefspants 08-11-2016 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12363726)
Royals' Ashe Russell: Unable to pitch since June 23
by RotoWire Staff | Special to CBSSports.com

Russell, the Royals' 2015 first round pick, has only thrown two total innings in 2016.

Russell was assigned to the Arizona Rookie League and has made just two starts this season, lasting only one inning each time. The team has made no official announcement on why he has not thrown more this year.

LMAO

Great Expectations 08-11-2016 09:34 PM

If Zimmerman is fixed with his surgery when can we expect his return?

Chiefspants 08-11-2016 09:39 PM

It takes a bold guy to write off the Royals in September 2015. It takes a bolder guy to proclaim you'd probably quit following sports after Ned wrecked the team and the Royals fell 1-2 against the Stros. It takes perhaps the boldest man in the world to double down after a WS win and keep ****posting to Chiefsplanet despite promises to focus on the finer things in life.

C3HIEF3S 08-11-2016 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12363739)
It takes a bold guy to write off the Royals in September 2015. It takes a bolder guy to proclaim you'd probably quit following sports after Ned wrecked the team and the Royals fell 1-2 against the Stros. It takes the boldest man in the world to double down after a WS win and keep ****posting to Chiefsplanet despite promises to focus on the finer things in life.

Chiefsplanet is the finest thing in life, sir!

ChiTown 08-11-2016 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12363739)
It takes a bold guy to write off the Royals in September 2015. It takes a bolder guy to proclaim you'd probably quit following sports after Ned wrecked the team and the Royals fell 1-2 against the Stros. It takes perhaps the boldest man in the world to double down after a WS win and keep ****posting to Chiefsplanet despite promises to focus on the finer things in life.

ROFL

C3HIEF3S 08-11-2016 09:48 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The &quot;kennel&quot; that will travel the Rally Mantis. <a href="https://t.co/kkDkxJiWjk">pic.twitter.com/kkDkxJiWjk</a></p>&mdash; Mike Swanson (@Swanee54) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swanee54/status/763941682140160002">August 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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DaneMcCloud 08-11-2016 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12363728)
LMAO

Never fear, there's help in the way.

The Royals 2015 first round comp pick (for losing James Shields) has pitched 80 innings in A ball and currently has an ERA of 8.28.

Great Expectations 08-11-2016 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12363775)
Never fear, there's help in the way.

The Royals 2015 first round comp pick (for losing James Shields) has pitched 80 innings in A ball and currently has an ERA of 8.28.

That's still better than resigning James Shields....

BigCatDaddy 08-11-2016 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12363734)
If Zimmerman is fixed with his surgery when can we expect his return?

Spring Training 2017.

nychief 08-11-2016 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12363734)
If Zimmerman is fixed with his surgery when can we expect his return?



George Zimmerman? He is a racist shitbag. He'll never be ready.

mr. tegu 08-11-2016 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12363726)
Royals' Ashe Russell: Unable to pitch since June 23
by RotoWire Staff | Special to CBSSports.com

Russell, the Royals' 2015 first round pick, has only thrown two total innings in 2016.

Russell was assigned to the Arizona Rookie League and has made just two starts this season, lasting only one inning each time. The team has made no official announcement on why he has not thrown more this year.

He is right on track then. It looks like maybe he is on the step of questioning whether or not he wants to play baseball and taking a break.

thabear04 08-11-2016 11:52 PM

Have anybody seen this video.

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WhawhaWhat 08-12-2016 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12363724)
Out of curiosity, who was the last starting pitcher to win the CY without 200 innings pitched?

Willie Hernandez for Detroit in 1984 for AL. Kershaw threw 198 innings 2 years ago in the NL.

duncan_idaho 08-12-2016 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12363775)
Never fear, there's help in the way.

The Royals 2015 first round comp pick (for losing James Shields) has pitched 80 innings in A ball and currently has an ERA of 8.28.


And at the same age, Cuthbert barely posted an OPS over .600, and Bubba Starling looked like a top prospect.

Minor league stats are nice for a quick glance at how a guy is doing but don't tell the whole story.


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KChiefs1 08-12-2016 06:35 AM

Is Jason LaCanfora been trolling Royals fans again?


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duncan_idaho 08-12-2016 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12363989)
Is Jason LaCanfora been trolling Royals fans again?


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Did he ever stop?

Guy has never gotten over losing to the Royals. Kind of like our friends in Toronto.


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nychief 08-12-2016 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12363959)
Willie Hernandez for Detroit in 1984 for AL. Kershaw threw 198 innings 2 years ago in the NL.

Wasn't Willie a reliever?

ChiTown 08-12-2016 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 12364018)
Wasn't Willie a reliever?

Yes

WhawhaWhat 08-12-2016 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 12364018)
Wasn't Willie a reliever?

Yep and Quis was 2nd in voting that year.

Prison Bitch 08-12-2016 08:34 AM

So I read today that MLB teams are having trouble insuring contracts longer than 3 years length. I wonder what that market is saying. I can't quite make out the signals being sent. Anyone got an idea?

http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/02...ontracts.html/

siberian khatru 08-12-2016 09:20 AM

Here's some good news:

Quote:

A.J. Puckett, RHP, Royals (No. 67 -- 2nd round)
No. 17 on Royals' Top 30
Two things that stand out for the Pepperdine product are his innings -- 41 and counting -- and the fact that he's reached full-season ball already. Along the way, Puckett has posted a 2.85 combined ERA, walked just two per nine innings and held hitters to a .233 batting average against. It might not take him long to make his way to Kansas City.

duncan_idaho 08-12-2016 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12364183)



Yeah. Would be nice if Puckett outperforms that draft slot a bit.

I'm excited about the potential he, Strahm and Mills/Junis provide.

If even one of those guys proves to be a competent back end starter beginning in 2017/18, and can be paired with Duffy and a "fixed" Ventura, that is huge for the next contention window.

Puckett has some Odorizzi qualities to him, to me. (Ducks jasonsautos' boner).


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siberian khatru 08-12-2016 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12364226)
Yeah. Would be nice if Puckett outperforms that draft slot a bit.

I'm excited about the potential he, Strahm and Mills/Junis provide.

If even one of those guys proves to be a competent back end starter beginning in 2017/18, and can be paired with Duffy and a "fixed" Ventura, that is huge for the next contention window.

Puckett has some Odorizzi qualities to him, to me. (Ducks jasonsautos' boner).


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Yep. People scoff, "Oh, he's nothing more than a 4 or 5." Yeah, but have you seen what those guys cost on the open market? I'd much rather put homegrown, cost-controlled guys in those slots than having to pay (or overpay) market prices for the next Vargas, Guthrie, etc.

BigCatDaddy 08-12-2016 10:09 AM

Given that like 5 guys have an ERA lower than 3 in the AL with the juiced ball is a guy with a an ERA below 4 now a back end or middle of the rotation guy?

duncan_idaho 08-12-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12364295)
Given that like 5 guys have an ERA lower than 3 in the AL with the juiced ball is a guy with a an ERA below 4 now a back end or middle of the rotation guy?


I'd say 4 is the new 3.5. Probably the standard for a mid-rotation guy this year.

Ian Kennedy is 46th in ERA in MLB, and only 48 SP have an ERA under 4 this year.

That puts him solidly in that mid-tier 2/3 range.

Will be interesting to see how lovely the ball is next year.


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RockChalk 08-12-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12364326)
Will be interesting to see how lovely the ball is next year.


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awwwwww :grouphug:

Great Expectations 08-12-2016 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12364326)
I'd say 4 is the new 3.5. Probably the standard for a mid-rotation guy this year.

Ian Kennedy is 46th in ERA in MLB, and only 48 SP have an ERA under 4 this year.

That puts him solidly in that mid-tier 2/3 range.

Will be interesting to see how lovely the ball is next year.


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A lot of our frustrations with him and the pitching staff are due to our inept offense. We haven't seen the increase in offense with the new ball like everyone else in the AL has.

RockChalk 08-12-2016 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12364391)
A lot of our frustrations with him and the pitching staff are due to our inept offense. We haven't seen the increase in offense with the new ball like everyone else in the AL has.

Look at the numbers across baseball. Anyone blaming the staff on this years middle-of-the-pack performance is completely misguided. We are 27 of 30 in runs scored (yes, the 3 behind us are NL teams). The average AL team has scored 514 runs total through 114 games. We've scored 78 fewer runs at 436 total. The pitching staff has been right around MLB average for 2016. If the offense was just average this year, we'd probably be 5-6 games above .500 and right in the thick of the race.

Hosmer and Gordon need to take a long, hard look at themselves and admit that doing it "their way" isn't cutting it anymore. Gordon already got his money, so he's not working on earning a large contract, but I think he cares enough about winning to try to be better. As for Hosmer, he's definitely costing himself money but not going the Moose route and admitting his swing is flawed and will only show more flaws as he ages.

RockChalk 08-12-2016 11:10 AM

The next 10 games will either put us right back into the mix or eliminate us...3 @ Twins, 3 @ Tigers, and 4 home against Twins. Go 8-2 or 7-3 and we are right back in the WC hunt at the least. .500 or worse in the next 10 will be the death knell.

siberian khatru 08-12-2016 11:11 AM

Since June 1, Hosmer is slugging .332.

Sure-Oz 08-12-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12364413)
Since June 1, Hosmer is slugging .332.

He definitely should listen to coaching...hes a good player but not a star., Which imo he should be

RockChalk 08-12-2016 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12364413)
Since June 1, Hosmer is slugging .332.

Cleanup hitter! $150million dollar man!

Sad thing is that this isn't a slump. It's what he does. White hot for about 6 weeks then straight up dinks and dunks for the most part (like his little "booty-knock" turd last night). Rinse and repeat each season.

When's the last time he pulled a HR, hit the RCF gap for a double, or laced a line drive down the RF line?

RockChalk 08-12-2016 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12364416)
He definitely should listen to coaching...hes a good player but not a star., Which imo he should be

I can't remember whether it was on 610 or 810 earlier this week, but it was either Ned or Dayton that said Sveum does not really say anything to any of our established players unless they come to him for advice. He went on to say that Sveum has a lot of tips/ideas for some of them, but that he's not to give unsolicited advice. He also made it a point of mentioning that Orlando and Cuthbert have spent a ton of time working with Sveum throughout the season. I'm pretty sure it was Dayton making those comments, but I'll see if I can find the interview.

KChiefs1 08-12-2016 11:50 AM

*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***
 
Do you realize if the Royals had just played .500 ball in July where they'd be?



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kgrund 08-12-2016 01:07 PM

Don't kid yourself. It would not matter, because the July Royals are who they are. Maybe not to that degree, but this team from start until now has not been very good. Plain and simple.

Prison Bitch 08-12-2016 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 12364410)
The next 10 games will either put us right back into the mix or eliminate us...3 @ Twins, 3 @ Tigers, and 4 home against Twins. Go 8-2 or 7-3 and we are right back in the WC hunt at the least. .500 or worse in the next 10 will be the death knell.

Lol, we have 0.3% playoff odds right now. Do you really expect this team to be 7 games better than Boston and Baltimore the last 50? If they were .500 we'd have to go 32-18. (And that assumes the others in front of us don't get hot)

RockChalk 08-12-2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12364677)
Lol, we have 0.3% playoff odds right now. Do you really expect this team to be 7 games better than Boston and Baltimore the last 50? If they were .500 we'd have to go 32-18. (And that assumes the others in front of us don't get hot)

Do I expect it? No.

But I'm also not 100% ready to write them off until I see what happens over the next 10 games.

Anyong Bluth 08-12-2016 02:53 PM

Don't expect it, but wouldn't be surprised if they managed to find a way.

C3HIEF3S 08-12-2016 05:10 PM

Rain is falling in Minnesota. Tarp is currently on the field.
Looking at the radar, it looks like things should clear up just before 7:30. Looks like there's going to be chances of rain throughout the night, so it'll be interesting to see what they decide.

C3HIEF3S 08-12-2016 06:20 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They are hoping for an 8 p.m. start here at Target Field. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/764254896543662080">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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eDave 08-12-2016 06:37 PM

Rodriguez gets an RBI double on his first AB in his final game as a Yankee, at home. I think he was served a meatball. Very Favre like.

WhawhaWhat 08-12-2016 09:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Minor tonight so far: 4 innings, two hits, one run, 5 Ks. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/764304673260072960">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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C3HIEF3S 08-12-2016 10:28 PM

Welp.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not good news on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RallyMantis?src=hash">#RallyMantis</a>: Billy Burns and Ian Kennedy think he is a goner. &quot;Tried everything but mouth to mouth,&quot; Burns said. RIP</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/764317259892416512">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Postgame: Things appear to have taken a turn for the worse. Rally Mantis had a good run. &quot;We&#39;re pretty sure he&#39;s dead,&quot; Ian Kennedy said.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/764317535579799556">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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KChiefs1 08-12-2016 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12365520)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Minor tonight so far: 4 innings, two hits, one run, 5 Ks. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>— Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/764304673260072960">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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2017 rotation:
Duffy
Ventura
Vargas
Kennedy
Minor?




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C3HIEF3S 08-12-2016 11:56 PM

If you were wondering what Danny Duffy does in his spare time, Dillon Gee just tweeted this on his behalf:
RIP
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Take a Sec and watch this video! Video credit: Danny Duffy. <a href="https://t.co/JT4745RgeC">pic.twitter.com/JT4745RgeC</a></p>&mdash; Dillon Gee (@DillonGee35) <a href="https://twitter.com/DillonGee35/status/764327526059704320">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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BigCatDaddy 08-13-2016 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12365565)
2017 rotation:
Duffy
Ventura
Vargas
Kennedy
Minor?




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Probably. I think we have a pretty uneventful off season . The team should look similar except for Moose being back and likely Morales gone. I would like to try to get Holland back to beef up the bullpen.
Davis
Herrera
Holland
Straham
Soria
Moylan
Young

Great Expectations 08-13-2016 07:31 AM

It'd be nice to get a power bat.

ChiTown 08-13-2016 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12365559)
Welp.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not good news on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RallyMantis?src=hash">#RallyMantis</a>: Billy Burns and Ian Kennedy think he is a goner. &quot;Tried everything but mouth to mouth,&quot; Burns said. RIP</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/764317259892416512">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Postgame: Things appear to have taken a turn for the worse. Rally Mantis had a good run. &quot;We&#39;re pretty sure he&#39;s dead,&quot; Ian Kennedy said.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/764317535579799556">August 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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PETA is going to be all over this. Not joking

siberian khatru 08-13-2016 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12365736)
It'd be nice to get a power bat.

Like to see Dozier up soon to see what he's got.

jimidollar 08-13-2016 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12365736)
It'd be nice to get a power bat.

I've been saying this for thirty years.

KevB 08-13-2016 09:40 AM

I'd like to see Strahm get a shot at starting at some point this year

ChiTown 08-13-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12365814)
Like to see Dozier up soon to see what he's got.

Or Bonifacio, maybe?

Coach 08-13-2016 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12365865)
I'd like to see Strahm get a shot at starting at some point this year

I think you'll see that in September. If not, definitely should be into consideration for 2017.

ChiTown 08-13-2016 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12365865)
I'd like to see Strahm get a shot at starting at some point this year

I really like what I have seen from this kid. Are they projecting him as a possible starter down the road?

Coach 08-13-2016 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12365949)
I really like what I have seen from this kid. Are they projecting him as a possible starter down the road?

My guess would be yes, since he was a starter in AA. I would guess that they'll give him a start in September, with the intent to bring him into spring training of 2017 for a starting spot.

WhawhaWhat 08-13-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12365949)
I really like what I have seen from this kid. Are they projecting him as a possible starter down the road?

He had 18 starts this year at AA but they moved him to the bullpen to help up here. I thought I remembered reading that they told him they wanted him to be a starter long term but they needed the BP help now.

ChiTown 08-13-2016 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 12365954)
My guess would be yes, since he was a starter in AA. I would guess that they'll give him a start in September, with the intent to bring him into spring training of 2017 for a starting spot.

I'd really like to see that. I wondered what he might look like stretched out over 5-6 innings. Hope it happens

BigCatDaddy 08-13-2016 10:50 AM

It looks like be was ok as a starter in AA. Either way I would think he is on the roster next year. They need to bump Soria as far down the reliever line as possible.

ChiTown 08-13-2016 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12365969)
It looks like be was ok as a starter in AA. Either way I would think he is on the roster next year. They need to bump Soria as far down the reliever line as possible.

Soria is our new Omar Infante - a $25mm turd

KChiefs1 08-13-2016 05:55 PM

Fun to see the way Royals Stadium used to look. I loved it out in GA.

I like Kauffman much better with the renovations.

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Prison Bitch 08-13-2016 09:01 PM

Anyone see $25M man come up 2 on one out in the 8th and hit a pussy chopper back to the pitcher for the GIDP?



I'd pay 200, maybe 300 million for that

WhawhaWhat 08-13-2016 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12367131)
Fun to see the way Royals Stadium used to look. I loved it out in GA.

I like Kauffman much better with the renovations.

https://youtu.be/hvPZWHhO7vA

Box score of the game. Even from the upper deck, Bo looks huge.

big nasty kcnut 08-13-2016 11:17 PM

Jonathan Papelbon bring him in for a look?

Chiefspants 08-13-2016 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 12367543)
Jonathan Papelbon bring him in for a look?

He's a horrible influence on the clubhouse. He wants the all time saves record and will likely not come unless he could be promised the closer role.

duncan_idaho 08-14-2016 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 12367543)
Jonathan Papelbon bring him in for a look?



Nope. Clubhouse cancer and doesn't have much left in the tank.


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Coach 08-14-2016 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 12367543)
Jonathan Papelbon bring him in for a look?

Denied.

Keep that joker away from this clubhouse.

BigCatDaddy 08-14-2016 04:08 PM

Orlando trying to make a case but a career year and still just 780 OPS. I don't know.

C3HIEF3S 08-14-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12368310)
Orlando trying to make a case but a career year and still just 780 OPS. I don't know.

I still doubt he sustains this through next year. I'd still let RF be a performance battle in 2017. If Orlando can find some way to sustain what he's doing this year, fine, more power to him.

But considering that he's hitting .334 while walking in just 2% of PA's.. I just don't know how that can be sustainable, not even to mention his BABIP (.407.. ridiculous) is 50 points higher than his career BABIP t (.357) this season. If he stops hitting, he's going to be worthless since he doesn't walk or hit for power. Let Paulo/Dozier/Boner duke it out for the starting RF job next year, IMO.

KChiefs1 08-14-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12368310)
Orlando trying to make a case but a career year and still just 780 OPS. I don't know.



I'm still not convinced.




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Chiefspants 08-14-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12368310)
Orlando trying to make a case but a career year and still just 780 OPS. I don't know.

I'm getting a big two hit whit vibe from him at the moment. As of now he turns a lot of groundouts into base hits due to his speed and exceptionally good luck on the balls he's putting into play.

#OrlandoMagic has been fun to watch, but I still think he's a 4th outfielder (nothing wrong with that).

He's more than welcome to keep proving me wrong.

Chiefshrink 08-14-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12368320)
I still doubt he sustains this through next year. I'd still let RF be a performance battle in 2017. If Orlando can find some way to sustain what he's doing this year, fine, more power to him.

But considering that he's hitting .334 while walking in just 2% of PA's.. I just don't know how that can be sustainable, not even to mention his BABIP (.407.. ridiculous) is 50 points higher than his career BABIP t (.357) this season. If he stops hitting, he's going to be worthless since he doesn't walk or hit for power. Let Paulo/Dozier/Boner duke it out for the starting RF job next year, IMO.

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Orlando is the modern day Amos Otis. Otis always performed when you least needed it either when the game was already lost or the season was lost. My point being there are guys who can't perform under pressure. Orlando is one of those guys. Absolutely keep RF open for competition.

Chiefspants 08-14-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12368338)
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Orlando is the modern day Amos Otis. Otis always performed when you least needed it either when the game was already lost or the season was lost. My point being there are guys who can't perform under pressure. Orlando is one of those guys. Absolutely keep RF open for competition.

I wouldn't go that far. I agree with you that he's a role player but there's nothing wrong with that. He had some clutch hits last year and put together great AB's in the 2015 postseason.

Chiefshrink 08-14-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12368340)
I wouldn't go that far. I agree with you that he's a role player but there's nothing wrong with that. He had some clutch hits last year and put together great AB's in the 2015 postseason.

Kudos for your positive attitude for Orlando but my gut say's otherwise. Maybe he does establish consistency and I hope he does don't get me wrong but......

siberian khatru 08-14-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12368338)
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Orlando is the modern day Amos Otis. Otis always performed when you least needed it either when the game was already lost or the season was lost.

That is absolutely farcical.

duncan_idaho 08-14-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12368338)
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Orlando is the modern day Amos Otis. Otis always performed when you least needed it either when the game was already lost or the season was lost. My point being there are guys who can't perform under pressure. Orlando is one of those guys. Absolutely keep RF open for competition.




Re: the bolded - what the hell are you talking about?

Amos Otis's career OPS with men on and men in scoring position was 20 points higher than his career OPS. And his postseason OPS was 100 points higher.

AO performed just fine under pressure.


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suzzer99 08-14-2016 05:18 PM

Lol ownage


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