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notorious 12-11-2011 08:46 PM

Montana, Elway, Brady, Rapelisburger all make their comebacks against prevent defense, BTW.

milkman 12-11-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192369)
Palko is a better passer.

Tebow is a better runner.

Tebow is continually bailed out by his defense because they keep the game close. Then Tebow can come in in the 4th against prevent defense and take all the glory. Tebow is constantly 2 of 15 up until the 4th quarter.

All this is true.

But part of being bailed out by your defense is not giving the ball away, and TeBow doesn't do that.

Last week, when Palko didn't give the ball away, he got bailed out by the defense.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2011 08:47 PM

I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.

jd1020 12-11-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8192393)
I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.

Who said anything defending Palko? Palko is ****ing horrible but he's not put in the same position as Tebow. Put Palko on the Broncos and they enjoy the same success.

Put Tebow on the Chiefs and you aren't sitting here washing his balls like he's something special.

NJChiefsFan 12-11-2011 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8192393)
I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.

Yeah Cassel is terrible but he isn't literally the worst QB in the league. He wasn't last year or this year. Palko seems to be LITERALLY the worst in the league.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192397)
Who said anything defending Palko? Palko is ****ing horrible but he's not put in the same position as Tebow. Put Palko on the Broncos and they enjoy the same success.

LMAO

Palko will never ever start for another team in this league, and Tebow is going to be starting for Denver for several years.

But yeah, Palko could have Denver at 8-5.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

BigMeatballDave 12-11-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8192393)
I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.

Who is defending Palko?

notorious 12-11-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8192397)
Who said anything defending Palko? Palko is ****ing horrible but he's not put in the same position as Tebow. Put Palko on the Broncos and they enjoy the same success.

Nope.


No ****ing way. Does Palko have the field vision while running that Tebow has? Doe he have the arm to make the passes that Tebow does downfield that allows the running game to be as effective?

Most of all, does he manage to raise the play of his surrounding teamates? Denvers entire team believes.

BigMeatballDave 12-11-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8192401)
LMAO

Palko will never ever start for another team in this league, and Tebow is going to be starting for Denver for several years.

But yeah, Palko could have Denver at 8-5.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Tebow will eventually flame out.

NJChiefsFan 12-11-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8192401)
LMAO

Palko will never ever start for another team in this league, and Tebow is going to be starting for Denver for several years.

But yeah, Palko could have Denver at 8-5.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

I think this run by Tebow will end up helping the rest of the AFCW longterm more than DEN. I don't see Tebow becoming good enough to beat defenses once they find a decent way to contain him.

notorious 12-11-2011 08:51 PM

Damnit, I think JD just trolled the **** out of me. ROFL

FringeNC 12-11-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8192382)
The OL is not that much of a problem. Shitty QB play can make a line look much worse than it is. Palko was today. He was holding the ball way too long.

And he probably really did have no open WRs because why give the WRs any cushion at all if the QB can't throw intermediate passes with enough juice to complete them?

jd1020 12-11-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8192406)
Nope.


No ****ing way. Does Palko have the field vision while running that Tebow has? Doe he have the arm to make the passes that Tebow does downfield that allows the running game to be as effective?

Most of all, does he manage to raise the play of his surrounding teamates? Denvers entire team believes.

Palko hasn't been running around like Tebow.

Before todays game all you heard about was how Haley was going to run a lot of bootlegs. When did you actually see them? You saw like 3 in the second half after it was already over.

milkman 12-11-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8192341)
This didn't start this year. We lost 3 games at the end of the season by a combined score of 92-17.

Against outstanding physical defenses that didn't commit their whole unit in the attempt to stop Charles.

It's the reason RBs are a dime a diozen.

Good ones, great ones can still make things happen against inferior teams, but to beat good teams, you need a QB.

SPchief 12-11-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8192363)
I can't believe that someone believes that Palko is better than Tebow.


Wow.

I can't believe there are people are arguing about which shitty QB is less shitty.


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